Most tactical battle in Naruto?

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Honestly, there were far better performances such as Ino's usage of her hair to restrain Sakura or Naruto's impressive jutsu timing against Kiba. That was more tactical than Shikamaru just streaming his shadow through Kin's string.
That's not what the thread title is asking though, this is the most tactical fight in the series for the clear fact that both combatants are very tactical and doing nothing but their own strategies. Sakura VS Ino had many moments of pure loose physical taijutsu in the vain to take the other out.
 

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Honestly, there were far better performances such as Ino's usage of her hair to restrain Sakura or Naruto's impressive jutsu timing against Kiba. That was more tactical than Shikamaru just streaming his shadow through Kin's string.
the string is what made him win.

The hair didnt make ino win and a fart is how kiba lost lol.


Those were tactical and cunning techniques though.
 

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That's not what the thread title is asking though, this is the most tactical fight in the series for the clear fact that both combatants are very tactical and doing nothing but their own strategies. Sakura VS Ino had many moments of pure loose physical taijutsu in the vain to take the other out.
I'm not sure how that matters. Both used moves that were rather basic.

If anything, you'd have to concede to Sasuke's battle against Orochimaru to be the most tactical fight in the entire manga due to the fact that he replicated what Kin had done except against a much stronger opponent along with the fact that he properly analyzed the spots that Orochimaru could run and attack while his vision was impaired and Orochimaru didn't even detect the strings Sasuke used until the last minute.

That shits on what Kin and Shikamaru did. Shikamaru only streamed his shadow against Kin and was lucky that Kin wasn't smart enough to detect the abnormality of her string's shadow. Kin has absolutely no feats at all, so what Shikamaru did absolutely proves nothing.
 
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I'm not sure how that matters. Both used moves that were rather basic.

If anything, you'd have to concede to Sasuke's battle against Orochimaru to be the most tactical fight in the entire manga due to the fact that he replicated what Kin had done except against a much stronger opponent along with the fact that he properly analyzed the spots that Orochimaru could run and attack while his vision was impaired and Orochimaru didn't even detect the strings Sasuke used until the last minute.

That shits on what Kin and Shikamaru did. Shikamaru only streamed his shadow against Kin and was lucky that Kin wasn't smart enough to detect the abnormality of her string's shadow. Kin has absolutely no feats at all, so what Shikamaru did absolutely proves nothing.
You're not understanding. It's not asking for the most impressive feats of tactics. AS I SAID- THAT WOULD BE AGAINST THE JUUBI OR VS KURAMA IN MY OPINION.

THE FIGHT THAT FOCUSES THE MOST PURELY ON TACTICS IS KIN VS SHIKAMARU.

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You're not understanding. It's not asking for the most impressive feats of tactics. AS I SAID- THAT WOULD BE AGAINST THE JUUBI OR VS KURAMA IN MY OPINION.

THE FIGHT THAT FOCUSES THE MOST PURELY ON TACTICS IS KIN VS SHIKAMARU.

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OP never specified that he was asking for fights that relied purely on tactics. That's based on your own interpretation.
 

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Honestly, there were far better performances such as Ino's usage of her hair to restrain Sakura or Naruto's impressive jutsu timing against Kiba. That was more tactical than Shikamaru just streaming his shadow through Kin's string.
Did you see this fight?
 

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I'm not sure how that matters. Both used moves that were rather basic.

If anything, you'd have to concede to Sasuke's battle against Orochimaru to be the most tactical fight in the entire manga due to the fact that he replicated what Kin had done except against a much stronger opponent along with the fact that he properly analyzed the spots that Orochimaru could run and attack while his vision was impaired and Orochimaru didn't even detect the strings Sasuke used until the last minute.

That shits on what Kin and Shikamaru did. Shikamaru only streamed his shadow against Kin and was lucky that Kin wasn't smart enough to detect the abnormality of her string's shadow. Kin has absolutely no feats at all, so what Shikamaru did absolutely proves nothing.
Pretty much this. People forget that luring a once in a lifetime, rare prodigy such as Orochimaru (and a man in his fifties at that) is a FAR better tactical feat that beating a dimwit and doing anything tactical by comparison. People should stop this grade A nonsense. There is nothing special about Shikamaru's feats, precisely for the reason that the opponents he hoodwinked are pedestrian in intelligence. It's nothing but bullshit from this forum as usual.

What are Hidan's and Kin's intelligence feats anyway? Oh wait, they don't have any. One was called a retard by his partner (and he shows his lack of intelligence in spades) and Kin had no clue where the wall was. What a smart girl. Wow, Shikamaru beat two people with cow fodders stuffed into their heads and it's, apparently, a huge deal. And, he lost to a dunderhead like Tayuya. Sasuke fooled Orochimaru (at aged 12 at that), Danzo, Deidara, and figured out Haku's techs as well, but he's still not better.

As for his 'thinking of 200 moves ahead' bullshit, then where were those 200 alternatives when Sakura and Ino's father beat him to it? Yeah, still don't see it. Minato's tactic against Madara is more impressive, Sakura's against Sasori and Obito (Kamui) are more impressive, Ino's are more impressive etc. I can post more, but these would do.
 
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Pretty much this. People forget that luring a once in a lifetime, rare prodigy such as Orochimaru (and a man in his fifties at that) is a FAR better tactical feat that beating a dimwit and doing anything tactical by comparison. People should stop this grade A nonsense. There is nothing special about Shikamaru's feats, precisely for the reason that the opponents he hoodwinked are pedestrian in intelligence. It's nothing but bullshit from this forum as usual.

What are Hidan's and Kin's intelligence feats anyway? Oh wait, they don't have any. One was called a retard by his partner (and he shows his lack of intelligence in spades) and Kin had no clue where the wall was. What a smart girl. Wow, Shikamaru beat two people with cow fodders stuffed into their heads and it's, apparently, a huge deal. And, he lost to a dunderhead like Tayuya. Sasuke fooled Orochimaru (at aged 12 at that), Danzo, Deidara, and figured out Haku's techs as well, but he's still not better.

As for his 'thinking of 200 moves ahead' bullshit, then where were those 200 alternatives when Sakura and Ino's father beat him to it? Yeah, still don't see it. Minato's tactic against Madara is more impressive, Sakura's against Sasori and Obito (Kamui) are more impressive, Ino's are more impressive etc. I can post more, but these would do.
Don't think that's quite fair.

Also again, i'm not saying Kin VS was the most impressive tactical feat BUT the purest example of a tactical fight in the series. She was cocky and way too into her strategy to think about outside factors- it's a recurring personality fault of the Sound nin. It's not her being an absolute idiot, it's Shika using outside factors people wouldn't consider because he has so little variety to work with, thinking outside of the box if you will.

Anyway Hidan obviously is not a smart opponent, nobody is saying that. But the fact he was faced against somebody on a completely different power scale is what keeps it a tactical and balanced battle all the same, Hidan got matched badly.

I don't know about you but I personally consider Obito and Madara to be impressive people that Shikamaru's tactics and quick-thinking/formation worked against. You want more examples? Shikamaru hasn't really been in a position of command often throughout the series so you'll have to look to his desperation during the war, keeping everybody alive against the literal 10 tails and also to Shikaku- practically any moment he gets panel time in fact, leading the Leaf VS Kurama (Storm 3 but stay with me haha) to his dying tactical orders to his distribution of troops and work in HQ. On a huge scale, I find it hard to grasp how people do not think these guys are not tacticians...

When Shikamaru is leading others or has a range of high level jutsu at his disposal to work with, he's ridiculously capable and in his zone, just like his father. Not his own power unlike Sasuke sure, but that's the character's literal main trait and the point of his character. It is strange to contest against that Shelke as much as I respect you, I don't think the forums full of idiots for saying a character reliant on tactics is a tactician.
 
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Don't think that's quite fair.

Also again, i'm not saying Kin VS was the most impressive tactical feat BUT the purest example of a tactical fight in the series. She was cocky and way too into her strategy to think about outside factors- it's a recurring personality fault of the Sound nin. It's not her being an absolute idiot, it's Shika using outside factors people wouldn't consider because he has so little variety to work with, thinking outside of the box if you will.

Anyway Hidan obviously is not a smart opponent, nobody is saying that. But the fact he was faced against somebody on a completely different power scale is what keeps it a tactical and balanced battle all the same, Hidan got matched badly.

I don't know about you but I personally consider Obito and Madara to be impressive people that Shikamaru's tactics and quick-thinking/formation worked against. You want more examples? Shikamaru hasn't really been in a position of command often throughout the series so you'll have to look to his desperation during the war, keeping everybody alive against the literal 10 tails and also to Shikaku- practically any moment he gets panel time in fact, leading the Leaf VS Kurama (Storm 3 but stay with me haha) to his dying tactical orders to his distribution of troops and work in HQ. On a huge scale, I find it hard to grasp how people do not think these guys are not tacticians...

When Shikamaru is leading others or has a range of high-level Jutsu at his disposal to work with, he's ridiculously capable and in his zone, just like his father. Not his own power unlike Sasuke sure, but that's the character's literal main trait and the point of his character. It is strange to contest against that Shelke as much as I respect you, I don't think the forums full of idiots for saying a character reliant on tactics is a tactician.
How is it not fair? Fooling a fool hardly takes much tactic. How can you even agree to this? How can one even compare Sasuke fooling Orochimaru and Danzo to Shikamaru luring fools into traps, and then place the latter on a higher pedestal? It makes no sense to me whatsoever.

You are also going off the tangent here. Whatever is shown on the panels is what's important. Whatever he could have done is irrelevant at this point as the manga is over. Going by the evidence we have, Shikamaru's feats are borderline pedestrian. There is no proof that Kin is intelligent, in fact, her forgetting the location of the wall right behind her tells a great tale about that. Hidan is an idiot and I am not even trying to mock him.

Temari has only gained experience now. She wasn't all that intelligent either. So, that's two idiots he beat and one with a serviceable intelligence at best, and you have got five pages of stupidity from Nips and idiotic name-calling for a simple fact that Shikamaru has fooled fools. So, tell me, in your honest opinion; what's so special about a tactician who has created tactics around dull fools? You can be the judge here.

Tactics are build around the opponents one is dealing with. That is the whole point. Shikamaru faced weak, unintelligent opponents (or those that could be easily subdued with his technique), and Sasuke faced those that were either much more powerful or were at his power scaling and were highly intelligent ninjas, hence, the tactic comparison is quite apt and fair.

By feats, he isn't a better tactitian as every single battle requires that from the ninja. Not only that, 200 IQ is extremely rare; an IQ, he has never exploited or shown with his feats. Which was my whole point; one ninja has shown far better tactics and with quick-silver thinking. The other hasn't. Whatever his status is, is not relevant within the confines of the term 'battle tactics'. Also, I never stated that he isn't a tactician. I stated that Sasuke is better and Shikamaru isn't some grand one everyone makes him out to be. That is very different from refuting his status as a tactician.
 
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Pretty much this. People forget that luring a once in a lifetime, rare prodigy such as Orochimaru (and a man in his fifties at that) is a FAR better tactical feat that beating a dimwit and doing anything tactical by comparison. People should stop this grade A nonsense. There is nothing special about Shikamaru's feats, precisely for the reason that the opponents he hoodwinked are pedestrian in intelligence. It's nothing but bullshit from this forum as usual.

What are Hidan's and Kin's intelligence feats anyway? Oh wait, they don't have any. One was called a retard by his partner (and he shows his lack of intelligence in spades) and Kin had no clue where the wall was. What a smart girl. Wow, Shikamaru beat two people with cow fodders stuffed into their heads and it's, apparently, a huge deal. And, he lost to a dunderhead like Tayuya. Sasuke fooled Orochimaru (at aged 12 at that), Danzo, Deidara, and figured out Haku's techs as well, but he's still not better.

As for his 'thinking of 200 moves ahead' bullshit, then where were those 200 alternatives when Sakura and Ino's father beat him to it? Yeah, still don't see it. Minato's tactic against Madara is more impressive, Sakura's against Sasori and Obito (Kamui) are more impressive, Ino's are more impressive etc. I can post more, but these would do.
Your opinion is subjective rather than objective. At this point you have nothing to fall on and somehow in disbelief that people aren't agreeing with you. It makes sense that you say you could post more when it's redundant given your lack of ability to post scans and explain your opinion on why they're better. Instead (like you did with the bijuu situation in which everyone realized how uninformed you were) you pass off your opinion as a fact and cry when you aren't agreed with.
 
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Sasuke vs Diedara was a battle of tatics. 1 individual trying to ahead of the other but Sasuke was ahead all along. Best fight in the manga, best fight tatic and entertaining wise.
 

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Sasuke vs Diedara was a battle of tatics. 1 individual trying to ahead of the other but Sasuke was ahead all along. Best fight in the manga, best fight tatic and entertaining wise.
I preferred the Neji vs Kidomaru fight. Neji pulling a win in a situation where he was heavily at a disadvantage was entertaining.

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