Part 1 Naruto at Bijuu level

[Sage konohamaru]

Dat naruto. I ain't surprise

 

[Warlocks]

i just realized that part 1 naruto defeated gaara in his bijuu form, all by himself without any help ._. I mean he had his summoning to help him also, but bruh, he defeated a bijuu by himself (when it took a: Two members of an akatsuki to beat one and b: A whole village and kage to beat one...?)

yep naruto was very strong
at ends he get some chakra from kurama so he did get little help

p1 Sasuke defeated p1 Naruto at VOTE. p1 Sasuke > Kage level - ur logic, not mine :bdpf:

but he didn't use boss summon in this fight

But they made a deal if naruto scratch his headband naruto won and he would go back with him .... Naruto did and sasuke still attacked and left so even tho he knew the deal he made

agreed
people always forgot about that deal was if naruto scratch his headband then its narutos win

 

[Tobi98]

LOL he didn't beat Shukaku he just woke Gaara up

 

[King Of Pop]

I'm pretty no Sasuke fan in this thread read this

its a bullshit post. funny you always go on about sasuke wankers yet you like ridiculously biased post smh. i guess when it favours naruto you have no problem

 

[~Ethereal~]

LOL he didn't beat Shukaku he just woke Gaara up

Best answer here.

 

[Ripple Hole]

Dat Naruto.

 

[Troyg39]

No, Naruto wasn't nerfed at all.

He didn't use summonings in that fight, which means its canon he didn't use his full arsenal, which makes it canon that he was nerfed.

He was only powered up by a portion of his future powers, something that wasn't rightfully his at that time.

Wasn't rightfully his at the time? The reach is too real on this one. He was a jin. That makes any and all chakra related to the specific jin he was serving as a host for rightfully his if it can be accessed.

And summoning is a part of that power. So it's really lame to say that Naruto was nerfed because he only got some of his free unrighteously gained future powers, not all.

Going by your logic then Sasuke's CM feats are null and void. Since he "unrighteously gained" future powers from his CM that he couldn't access on his own at the time right? But it's a good thing we aren't going by your logic.

Part 1 Naruto is incapable of summoning Bunta

You soloed yourself here

He could only do that with a portion of his future powers if they luckily leak, so that's not technically a part of his arsenal.

You're being a clown right now demon. The fact is that they did leak, and once they are leaked, he has access to summoning Bunta. It's a part of his arsenal, just like CM and the black chidori was apart of Sasuke's arsenal at the time because that was a power he potentially had access too. It's funny because some guy named Pop King or whatever called my earlier post "ridiculously biased" yet you're over here trying to re-write rules on what constitutes as someone's arsenal and only apply to Naruto and not Sasuke.

In fact, why do Sasuke fans always have to try to take away from Naruto in these debates? When Naruto fans debate, they typically use his feats>Sasuke's feats approach. But when Sasuke fans debate, they're always trying to prove Sasuke is stronger by somehow taking away from Naruto's. "Borrowed powers", "Kurama helped him bleh bleh", etc. The very fact that you are focusing more on taking from Naruto than emphasizing Sasuke's own power suggests that deep down you feel Naruto was technically stronger in this particular case too

 

[Seventh Sama]

That's not going to kill him or defeat him. Even Part 1 Sasuke beat a guy who absorbs chakra.

BZ one shots tho. :bdpf:

 

[ComplexCity]

its a bullshit post. funny you always go on about sasuke wankers yet you like ridiculously biased post smh. i guess when it favours naruto you have no problem

Get off my nutz?

I'm just stating facts and he's right. Don't know how it's bs when everyone knows that if Gama was summomoned and it was a bloodlusted battle Sasuke would have been dead

It's funny because some guy named Pop King or whatever called my earlier post "ridiculously biased" yet you're over here trying to re-write rules on what constitutes as someone's arsenal and only apply to Naruto and not Sasuke.

I think he talking about you bruh

 

[Troyg39]

I think he talking about you bruh

Yea I saw it. I figured there butts would be hurt so **** it. If it was such a "ridiculously biased" post he would've responded to me and destroyed my post rather than hop on your nuts for making a comment about it

 

[Tyris]

But they made a deal if naruto scratch his headband naruto won and he would go back with him .... Naruto did and sasuke still attacked and left so even tho he knew the deal he made

How naruto fans justify a stalemate as a win and even clear losses

Madara solos :yayy:

 

[Tyris]

But they made a deal if naruto scratch his headband naruto won and he would go back with him .... Naruto did and sasuke still attacked and left so even tho he knew the deal he made

Naruto attacked first lol

 

[Icelerate]

All Naruto did was wake Gaara up, not defeat Shukaku so I fail to see how he's bijuu level. On the contrary, Oro struggles against 4 tailed Naruto who isn't bijuu level yet much stronger than any form of part one Naruto.

 

[Imperious]

:scorps:

 

[Aizendara]

Only retards will take this bait

 

[Imperious]

Only retards will take this bait

If this is considered bait, i'm sorry ._. I'm not well versed in whats considered trolling and baiting, because I've never intentionally done anything like that

 

[Nick01]

Yes, Naruto is a boss.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

They're both summons is the point & therefore a bonus to a characters strength.

Which half-wit hacked The Demon Hawks account today?

That does not suddenly make Kurama relevant to my discussion still when I'm clearly talking about Bunta. Don't mix up two different things, especially not the one I'm not talking about at the moment. So you're needlessly bringing that up even if it is still a summon.

:|

birth·right\ˈbərth-ˌrīt\
noun
: a right that you have because you were born into a particular position, family, place, etc., or because it is a right of all people

Bringing the definitions? LMFAO. You need those, not me. Naruto was not born with Kurama, it was an outside power sealed within him, which means it is NOT his birthright.

Sasuke could have used his full abilities to end Shins father. Naruto could have used Bunta to end Sasuke


Edit: His other abilities

Sasuke was weakened. No MS access, no Six Paths techs access.

He didn't use summonings in that fight, which means its canon he didn't use his full arsenal, which makes it canon that he was nerfed.

If he is not capable of summoning Bunta on his own, then it is not a part of his arsenal.

Wasn't rightfully his at the time? The reach is too real on this one. He was a jin. That makes any and all chakra related to the specific jin he was serving as a host for rightfully his if it can be accessed.

It wasn't under his control at that time, which means he can't access it whenever he desires. Are you really saying something which the user can't even access on will is rightfully his own power on paper?

Going by your logic then Sasuke's CM feats are null and void. Since he "unrighteously gained" future powers from his CM that he couldn't access on his own at the time right? But it's a good thing we aren't going by your logic.

CM wasn't a future power. And it was Sasuke's power because he had full control over it and could access it at any time. Not some lucky leak to save him against a stronger person.

You soloed yourself here

Nope.

You're being a clown right now demon. The fact is that they did leak, and once they are leaked, he has access to summoning Bunta. It's a part of his arsenal, just like CM and the black chidori was apart of Sasuke's arsenal at the time because that was a power he potentially had access too.

He had access to summoning Bunta THEN. But the fact is that the thing that provided Naruto the access to summoning Bunta wasn't Naruto's rightful power (since he wasn't in command of that power, it was out of Kurama's mercy). So Kurama's chakra itself was a power up for Naruto for him to match Sasuke who was stronger. Summoning Bunta was another power up related to it. But not summoning Bunta is NOT a nerf. That's my point.

Otherwise, going by your logic, Sasuke was also nerfed because he didn't gain a portion of his MS powers at VOTE. If Kurama's chakra was a rightful power for Naruto at that time, then MS powers like Susanoo should also be a rightful power of Sasuke at that time. Because they are both future powers for Naruto and Sasuke respectively which Naruto and Sasuke weren't in command of at that time but that they attained those powers relying on themselves later on.

It's funny because some guy named Pop King or whatever called my earlier post "ridiculously biased" yet you're over here trying to re-write rules on what constitutes as someone's arsenal and only apply to Naruto and not Sasuke.

I don't care about that.

In fact, why do Sasuke fans always have to try to take away from Naruto in these debates?

We aren't taking away anything from Naruto, TBH. We are giving him as much as he deserves. We are trying to prove that Naruto was powered up in his VOTE fight to match Sasuke. Whether it is one tails or five tails, whether Bunta was summoned or not, Naruto was still powered up regardless of anything, which makes it unfair on Sasuke's side in all cases. Naruto was NOT NERFED by any means. Whether Bunta was summoned not, whether Kurama lended chakra or not, Naruto was in no way nerfed.

When Naruto fans debate, they typically use his feats>Sasuke's feats approach. But when Sasuke fans debate, they're always trying to prove Sasuke is stronger by somehow taking away from Naruto's. "Borrowed powers", "Kurama helped him bleh bleh", etc. The very fact that you are focusing more on taking from Naruto than emphasizing Sasuke's own power suggests that deep down you feel Naruto was technically stronger in this particular case too

Because Naruto fans don't understand the logical bit. And they force Sasuke fans to explain the standing of Naruto's powers which appears to be downplaying.

Sasuke fans are not saying that Naruto couldn't summon Bunta, we are just saying that Naruto not summoning Bunta was not a nerf. It's just that Naruto did not gain more powers i.e. he was powered up only to the extent to match Sasuke, but not nerfed if he wasn't powered up even more.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

That does not suddenly make Kurama relevant to my discussion still when I'm clearly talking about Bunta. Don't mix up two different things, especially not the one I'm not talking about at the moment. So you're needlessly bringing that up even if it is still a summon.



Bringing the definitions? LMFAO. You need those, not me. Naruto was not born with Kurama, it was an outside power sealed within him, which means it is NOT his birthright.



Sasuke was weakened. No MS access, no Six Paths techs access.



If he is not capable of summoning Bunta on his own, then it is not a part of his arsenal.



It wasn't under his control at that time, which means he can't access it whenever he desires. Are you really saying something which the user can't even access on will is rightfully his own power on paper?



CM wasn't a future power. And it was Sasuke's power because he had full control over it and could access it at any time. Not some lucky leak to save him against a stronger person.



Nope.



He had access to summoning Bunta THEN. But the fact is that the thing that provided Naruto the access to summoning Bunta wasn't Naruto's rightful power (since he wasn't in command of that power, it was out of Kurama's mercy). So Kurama's chakra itself was a power up for Naruto for him to match Sasuke who was stronger. Summoning Bunta was another power up related to it. But not summoning Bunta is NOT a nerf. That's my point.

Otherwise, going by your logic, Sasuke was also nerfed because he didn't gain a portion of his MS powers at VOTE. If Kurama's chakra was a rightful power for Naruto at that time, then MS powers like Susanoo should also be a rightful power of Sasuke at that time. Because they are both future powers for Naruto and Sasuke respectively which Naruto and Sasuke weren't in command of at that time but that they attained those powers relying on themselves later on.



I don't care about that.



We aren't taking away anything from Naruto, TBH. We are giving him as much as he deserves. We are trying to prove that Naruto was powered up in his VOTE fight to match Sasuke. Whether it is one tails or five tails, whether Bunta was summoned or not, Naruto was still powered up regardless of anything, which makes it unfair on Sasuke's side in all cases. Naruto was NOT NERFED by any means. Whether Bunta was summoned not, whether Kurama lended chakra or not, Naruto was in no way nerfed.



Because Naruto fans don't understand the logical bit. And they force Sasuke fans to explain the standing of Naruto's powers which appears to be downplaying.

Sasuke fans are not saying that Naruto couldn't summon Bunta, we are just saying that Naruto not summoning Bunta was not a nerf. It's just that Naruto did not gain more powers i.e. he was powered up only to the extent to match Sasuke, but not nerfed if he wasn't powered up even more.

I'm too lazy atm to cut out everything not relevant to me as I'm on a phone. Just know that you went full retard and said the same thing you did last post that I already countered.