Part 1 Naruto at Bijuu level

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

How would Zetsu beat part 1 naruto?

He was right there watching the whole VOTE battle. he didn't do a thing. The only way he would easily win is if he was able to bring out his 100,000 white zetsu clone army.

KCM Naruto couldn't beat Black Zetsu,
what on earth is Part 1 Naruto supposed to do?

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Bunta has no part in making Naruto bijuu level or not.

If you say so...

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[Imperious]

I thought that was obvious and you just posted this thread as bait. You hungry troll you .

I have never in my life intentionally trolled. Period. I just came to the realization of what I said in the OP and thought I should share it, so that I could get honest feedback. And only "once" a few months back, had I ever intentionally used a thread to bait someone. So relax yourself, Dante.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

If you say so...

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It doesn't make Naruto bijuu level still, no summon does.

 

[ComplexCity]

Naruto was nerfed at vote1. Didn't even use summoning and we know that was in his arsenal so it proves the nerf.

Naruto was stronger than Sasuke back then technically. He just had to lose that fight. Wouldn't have made the goal of stalemating and not killing sasuke in vote2 fight as symbolic if naruto wrecks him or they stalemated first in vote1.

I'm pretty no Sasuke fan in this thread read this

 

[ComplexCity]

That simply means Sasuke is beyond bijuu level.

How when Naruto was canocially stronger feats wise in part 1?

 

[The Demon Hawk]

How when Naruto was canocially stronger feats wise in part 1?

By the OP's logic.

BTW, Naruto wasn't stronger than Sasuke himself. He needed a small portion of his future powers (Kurama's help) to compete with Sasuke, and luckily he always got it. And a huge summon which he got because he trained with Jiraiya earlier luckily and that also with Kurama's chakra, while Sasuke was to get his summon later.

 

[Imperious]

How exactly is that a plothole if it doesn't contradict any known manga facts? :| Do you even know the definitions of the words you use, son? And yes, you did imply this, which I noted in my first post in this thread - go and re-read it, kiddo :lol I don't really get what are you arguing with now.

Um, first of all I do believe Vote Sasuke (who by manga facts isn't even close to be Bijuu level) beating someone who defeated a Bijuu sort of does imply a contradiction against manga facts your making less sense with each post. And to sugarcoat the fact that you "noted" that I implied it is a **** move, because you went on to emphasize that implication by saying I solo'd myself and that my implications were the result of my own logic (Which was more of a theory than logic in the first place).

OT: Naruto defeated a Bijuu, no matter how restrcited the bijuu was, it doesn't subside the fact that Naruto an adolescent child (and his giant toad friend) beat a Bijuu. Does it imply that Naruto was at Bijuu level? Maybe (refer to Dante's first post for a full explanation).

Now, with that in mind I simply questioned how VOTE Sasuke ( who was roughly chuunin-jonin level) was able to be he who was implied to be at Bijuu level after defeating a Bijuu himself when Sasuke himself couldn't even beat the smaller (jinchuruki) partially transformed version. Might this imply that it only means Sasuke is bijuu level, maybe. But the OP didn't even go that far into the theory. I have to go, but i'll be back in an hour or so, enjoy your day sir.

 

[NarutoX28]

Shukaku physically outclassed Gamabunta and even Gamabunta admitted that he couldn't withstand multiple hits from Shukaku.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Naruto was nerfed at vote1. Didn't even use summoning and we know that was in his arsenal so it proves the nerf.

Naruto was stronger than Sasuke back then technically. He just had to lose that fight. Wouldn't have made the goal of stalemating and not killing sasuke in vote2 fight as symbolic if naruto wrecks him or they stalemated first in vote1.

No, Naruto wasn't nerfed at all. He was only powered up by a portion of his future powers, something that wasn't rightfully his at that time. And summoning is a part of that power. So it's really lame to say that Naruto was nerfed because he only got some of his free unrighteously gained future powers, not all.

Part 1 Naruto is incapable of summoning Bunta. He could only do that with a portion of his future powers if they luckily leak, so that's not technically a part of his arsenal.

 

[ComplexCity]

By the OP's logic.

BTW, Naruto wasn't stronger than Sasuke himself. He needed a small portion of his future powers (Kurama's help) to compete with Sasuke, and luckily he always got it. And a huge summon which he got because he trained with Jiraiya earlier luckily and that also with Kurama's chakra, while Sasuke was to get his summon later.

I love that when ppl state this, they forget Kurama Narutos ability to learn jutsu as well as the basic things everyone else was learning. This is irrelevant anyway because feats are feats regardless if it's his own being or not. Sasukes birthright was his Sharigan while Narutos was Kurama. Think I've stated this before

 

[ComplexCity]

No, Naruto wasn't nerfed at all. He was only powered up by a portion of his future powers, aomething that wasn't rightfully has at that time. And summoning is a part of that power. So it's really lame to say that Naruto was nerfed because he only got some free future powers, not all.

Naruto was nerfed the same way Sasuke was nerfed against Shins dad. Stop with the hypocrisy

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

It doesn't make Naruto bijuu level still, no summon does.

Kurama is a summon & it's an added part to the summoners arsenal. How can it not make someone stronger than they would be without it. That's like saying Sasuke isn't stronger with his chidori variants.

What the hell is up with you today?

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I love that when ppl state this, they forget Kurama Narutos ability to learn jutsu as well as the basic things everyone else was learning. This is irrelevant anyway because feats are feats regardless if it's his own being or not. Sasukes birthright was his Sharigan while Narutos was Kurama. Think I've stated this before

@bold This is where you are HEAVILY mistaken. Sasuke's birthright is the Sharingan but Naruto's birthright is NOT Kurama. Keep that in mind. And in Part 1 Naruto wasn't capable of controlling Kurama's chakra so it wasn't rightfully his at that time. The fact that he got those powers to match Sasuke makes him lucky enough, and absolutely NOT nerfed.

Naruto was nerfed the same way Sasuke was nerfed against Shins dad. Stop with the hypocrisy

Absolutely not the same. I don't know how they even look the same to you.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Kurama is a summon & it's an added part to the summoners arsenal. How can it not make someone stronger than they would be without it. That's like saying Sasuke isn't stronger with his chidori variants.

What the hell is up with you today?

I'm talking about Bunta here, not Kurama.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

I'm talking about Bunta here, not Kurama.

They're both summons is the point & therefore a bonus to a characters strength.

Which half-wit hacked The Demon Hawks account today?

 

[ComplexCity]

@bold This is where you are HEAVILY mistaken. Sasuke's birthright is the Sharingan but Naruto's birthright is NOT Kurama. Keep that in mind. And in Part 1 Naruto wasn't capable of controlling Kurama's chakra so it wasn't rightfully his at that time. The fact that he got those powers to match Sasuke makes him lucky enough, and absolutely NOT nerfed.

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birth·right\ˈbərth-ˌrīt\
noun
: a right that you have because you were born into a particular position, family, place, etc., or because it is a right of all people

Absolutely not the same. I don't know how they even look the same to you.

Sasuke could have used his full abilities to end Shins father. Naruto could have used Bunta to end Sasuke


Edit: His other abilities

 

[Radice]

Bunta this is a argument?
Ridiculous Narutards still crying about Naruto's defeat in vote 1


Bunta made it clear to Naruto he was the boss and Naruto was just his subordinate.
Bunta only helped Naruto against Gaara , because Gaara was using a ****ING giant Bijuu and village was in danger.

Bunta never would HELP Naruto to fight against someone without any summon. Especially if this enemy is a Gennin with 12 years.

This would hurt Bunta's honor so hard.
Bunta would just beat Naruto's ass if he sumoned him against Sasuke


Kyuubi only made part of the Naruto's power at the moment he control his power.
In Part 1 and part 2 until Naruto control his power when kyuubi just control Naruto was not a part of his strenght.


Sasuke defeated Naruto in every way possible in VOTE1

Without Kyuubi to resurrect Naruto. Sasuke in his base form just KO Naruto with single a punch.
Naruto wans't in his base form when Sasuke KO him. Naruto still was using the kyuubi.

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Not even the 1 tail the the greatest amount of Kyuubi's chakra Naruto used during part 1 wasn't enough to beat Sasuke.

 

[ComplexCity]

Bunta this is a argument?
Ridiculous Narutards still crying about Naruto's defeat in vote 1


Bunta made it clear to Naruto he was the boss and Naruto was just his subordinate.
Bunta only helped Naruto against Gaara , because Gaara was using a ****ING giant Bijuu and village was in danger.

Bunta never would HELP Naruto to fight against someone without any summon. Especially if this enemy is a Gennin with 12 years.

This would hurt Bunta's honor so hard.
Bunta would just beat Naruto's ass if he sumoned him against Sasuke


Kyuubi only made part of the Naruto's power at the moment he control his power.
In Part 1 and part 2 until Naruto control his power when kyuubi just control Naruto was not a part of his strenght.


Sasuke defeated Naruto in every way possible in VOTE1

Without Kyuubi to resurrect Naruto. Sasuke in his base form just KO Naruto with single a punch.
Naruto wans't in his base form when Sasuke KO him. Naruto still was using the kyuubi.

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Not even the 1 tail the the greatest amount of Kyuubi's chakra Naruto used during part 1 wasn't enough to beat Sasuke.

Another fapboy. No one is arguing that Sasuke won. Based off feats, Naruto is stronger. If Sasuke harmed Gamas son, he would been involved

 

[VongolaX]

Absorbs his chakra or parasite clones.

That's not going to kill him or defeat him. Even Part 1 Sasuke beat a guy who absorbs chakra.

KCM Naruto couldn't beat Black Zetsu,
what on earth is Part 1 Naruto supposed to do?

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