"Utopic Monkeys" - Chapter 9.. **** Liquor - Open till Dawn

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don't worry... i've read your posts too and you're obviously a friend, so i take your post with little regard. yes some writers do take inspiration such as artists do... however that scene isn't so much inspiration as a modified copy. i am not saying that it is bad... i just feel it is more aimed towards an immature audience... people who think that it's funny to either write countless swears and constantly say the word "p*ssy".

i am merely stating my own opinion, which is that it seems an immature fanfic for me, where as i feel the writer wanted to aim at a mature audience he seems to have got caught too much in others' work and lost sight of what he wanted to create.

in my eyes a true artist need not mimic another style... true revolutionaries create their own style... do me the favour of at least trying to absorb some of these words and think before replying my friend...
And you obviously an hater trying to feed on his success by following the path of others before and bash his work because it will get you attention.
Doesn't change the fact that you made an evaluation based on a Chapter rather than reading the whole thing which makes your entire post pointless.
 
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Doesn't change the fact that you made an evaluation based on a Chapter rather than reading the whole thing which makes your entire post pointless.
so you would read every chapter of a book if you didn't like the first chapter? Kiwi was giving his opinion after reading one chapter, stating that he wasn't a fan and gave his reasons without flaming kenshin or the fanfic he writes. He is entitled to do that since this is an open forum, you are not allowed to attack him like you did, calling his post "pointless" just because he doesn't want to read any more chapters of a fanfic he didn't enjoy.
 

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so you would read every chapter of a book if you didn't like the first chapter? Kiwi was giving his opinion after reading one chapter, stating that he wasn't a fan and gave his reasons without flaming kenshin or the fanfic he writes. He is entitled to do that since this is an open forum, you are not allowed to attack him like you did, calling his post "pointless" just because he doesn't want to read any more chapters of a fanfic he didn't enjoy.
You don't start a serious review on chapter 9, some common sense. It would be completely plausible if he would have done those comments on Chapter 1.
People who have read the entire thing, know that the elements only started to change recently on this Fanfiction (more swearing,etc). So it's quite obvious that he only read this chapter and went from there which does not make his review a plausible one.
 

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You don't start a serious review on chapter 9, some common sense. It would be completely plausible if he would have done those comments on Chapter 1.
People who have read the entire thing, know that the elements only started to change recently on this Fanfiction (more swearing,etc). So it's quite obvious that he only read this chapter and went from there which does not make his review a plausible one.
a review is a review, there is still no reason to attack him like that. If you would calmly explain to him that each chapter is different than it would be different, but you straight out attacked him for it, which isn't appreciated. You also have to realize that because of the amount of new posts this particular chapter gets, it is always near the top of the fanfic section where as the majority of the other chapters are buried through other various pages of the section. there have been multiple times where i've read a chapter in the middle of a fanfic and decided if it was something i would like to read from the beginning, most of the time I do end up reading them.

and like you said, Kenshin's fanfic has been changing, so the reading experience from chapter 1 to this chapter is going to be different because of the increase in swearing and other adult related material.

and the main point to me replying to your reply to Kiwi is that its his OPINION and he is entitled to expressing his OPINION because NB is an open forum and all members are allowed to post on any thread they choose too as long as it is following the rules of that section and the main rules of the entire forum.

so please have more respect for other members of this site instead of attacking them because they don't happen to like a writing style that you like.
 

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so please have more respect for other members of this site instead of attacking them because they don't happen to like a writing style that you like.
One of the first times that i can agree with a point on one of yours posts (refering to the other part of the post that was not quoted).

As for the part quoted, If "beloved" people around here would have more respect for others, i would do the same. I treat well people who respect others but i don't treat with respect mega douches who go around bashing everything.

And i did not attacked Kiwi, i just made my point across that his review could not be very valible if going only by one Chapter which is true.
If anyone attacked anyone he clearly made it first.
I rest my case.
 

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One of the first times that i can agree with a point on one of yours posts (refering to the other part of the post that was not quoted).

As for the part quoted, If "beloved" people around here would have more respect for others, i would do the same. I treat well people who respect others but i don't treat with respect mega douches who go around bashing everything.

And i did not attacked Kiwi, i just made my point across that his review could not be very valible if going only by one Chapter which is true.
If anyone attacked anyone he clearly made it first.
I rest my case.
0_0 i don't see how he attacked you or kenshin, he just stated that he didn't like the chapter and the reasons why he didn't like the chapter. Which is exactly what you see with any time of movie, tv, book or game review. You are forgetting that he was reviewing this chapter, which is exactly what people do with other individual publications like comics, mangas and other periodicals. they are reviewed both as a whole and individually. I have destroyed chapters of Bleach and Naruto, yet I still believe that they are two of the best Mangas released, but i didn't start reading Naruto or Bleach from the very first chapter, i started Bleach after Ichigo left the Soul Society and I started Naruto at the start of Shippuden. Now i had watched most of those missing chapters in the anime but i didn't watch all of them. Does that make my opinion of the mangas any less valid than someone who has read every single chapter?

but let me ask you a question, would you be this harsh about this if Kiwi had posted that he liked the chapter, but still gave the criticism about Kenshin's writing style?
 

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but let me ask you a question, would you be this harsh about this if Kiwi had posted that he liked the chapter, but still gave the criticism about Kenshin's writing style?
o_o The thing is i wasn't harsh at all. I merely stated that he could not be doing a valible review in the ENTIRE Fanfiction as he did based SOLELY on the LAST chapter released of the same Fanfiction.
You were the one who exagerating the harsh thing and that i was swearing when i never did.
But seems like you forget Flaw quite often who goes around calling other people Phaggots and offending every single fan of this fanfiction.
 

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o_o The thing is i wasn't harsh at all. I merely stated that he could not be doing a valible review in the ENTIRE Fanfiction as he did based SOLELY on the LAST chapter released of the same Fanfiction.
You were the one who exagerating the harsh thing and that i was swearing when i never did.
But seems like you forget Flaw quite often who goes around calling other people Phaggots and offending every single fan of this fanfiction.
U_U you know what, I really don't care about this anymore, obviously you are not the type to listen to reason so I just don't care anymore.

as for Flaw, if you report him, one fo the mods in charge of this section will deal with him
 

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U_U you know what, I really don't care about this anymore, obviously you are not the type to listen to reason so I just don't care anymore.

as for Flaw, if you report him, one fo the mods in charge of this section will deal with him
Who has the reason or not can never be decided by you, me or Kiwi for that matter.

It's pointless to argue when we share different views on the subject. Why would i change my views when i do not think you are making a valid point?

It's better to end the discussion here, you obviously have your opinion and i have mine. Yours it's not better then mine and mine it's not better then yours.
This will only turn into a endless debate.
 

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o_o The thing is i wasn't harsh at all. I merely stated that he could not be doing a valible review in the ENTIRE Fanfiction as he did based SOLELY on the LAST chapter released of the same Fanfiction.
You were the one who exagerating the harsh thing and that i was swearing when i never did.
But seems like you forget Flaw quite often who goes around calling other people Phaggots and offending every single fan of this fanfiction.
You're such a Bi-curious person.
 

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Dante and Flaw, infact every member who frequents this thread and the forum. If you have nothing nice to say to each other, DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER!!

Please keep this thread free from personal attacks, spam, foul language and other rule violations.
 
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