It's not that. Tell me how to deal with the problem instead of trying to debunk official statistics.
The problems I listed are facts. They are real. Did you look at the stats I posted?
I'm willing to hear what can be done to solve this crisis. I'm even willing to hear why the cultural differences are this big altough it doesn't justify any of those crimes. But do not try to belittle an existing problem.
And to add to my previous post; Any refugee that has the nerve to complain about the food and sheltering facilities should be deported. That's a clear sign they're no war victims.
When... Did I... :|
I'm not playing the blame game. I'm saying that their Situation is like you put an ice cube into fire.
Our culture and their culture do not fit that well.
So how about we give them a chance to immigrate slowly into our culture instead of saying "look this is homosexuality, you better get used to it".
"Our culture and their culture do not fit that well." Yes exactly. So one culture will give in into the other. Which one do you think that is right now? Which culture is changing to fit the other? The only decent immigrated immigrants are the ones who live a western life and even resigned from their religion. I have a friend who is quarter Turkish. He doesn't eat pork and he doesn't drink alcohol. That is all. Those are the kind of people who slowly intigrate. You know why? His father is Belgian and his mother is half Turkish. The reality is that there are (too many) Belgian Turks who get a wife from their own country, force them to wear a hijab and get first generation imigrant children all over again. This is the actual story of a Turkish woman I know. She luckily left her husband.
I'm sure Homosexuals will be very pleased to hear that you want them to be beat up and harrased in their own country, just so immigrants can "integrate slowly".
Please realise that this is a dire situation and there is no more room for giving in.
ISIS is an imminent problem, but even when they get stopped the aftermath will follow.
Tell me what another rational conclusion can be drawn from the fact the only people from muslim countries are overpresented in statistics in ratio their population? Are most people from muslim countries just born f*cked in the head or does the culture make them that way?
I mean the pattern repeats itself and yet people say there are scums in every walk of life. Yeah but why do we have relatively more of that scum within muslim communities.
Ps. the link works just fine. I logged out and viewed it and it worked. Maybe it's just you? Can you still not see it?
So you're a racist when you admit facts? Typical. After been presented with evidence from numerous neutral sources you go out of your way debunk it all just by saying: "you're a racist." Astonising. Truly astonishing.
Left wing governments are so cool. I like them. They allow humongous amounts of immigrants into Western countries, which enables immigrants to rule and go from zero(in their countries of origin) to hero in their adopted country where they have the utmost honour of changing the dirty culture of Westerners by imposing their own culture that is rich and encompasses more than 1000 years of documented history. Wooohoooooo! Ty, and left wing governments rule.(don't forget to wank with your left hand in public as a way of paying homage to the oh so holy left).
So you're a racist when you admit facts? Typical. After been presented with evidence from numerous neutral sources you go out of your way debunk it all just by saying: "you're a racist." Astonising. Truly astonishing.
no he is the same guy who moans Asians are rapist blah blah
whats truly astonishing is you are stuck to a religion[when all of them causes problem] like a parasite moaning how it made you butthurt on a Japanese Anime Forum :lol
Left wing governments are so cool. I like them. They allow humongous amounts of immigrants into Western countries, which enables immigrants to rule and go from zero(in their countries of origin) to hero in their country where they have the utmost honour of changing the dirty culture of Westerners and imposing their culture that is rich and encompasses more than 1000 years of documented history. Wooohoooooo! Ty, and left wing governments rule.(don't forget to wank with your left hand in public as a way of paying homage to the oh so holy left).
Ofcourse you'll only interpret my words in a way that suits your peanutbrained outlook.
I mentioned the culture clash, the FACTUAL statistics concerning the rapes occuring in Europe and regressive medieval sense of logic attacking the european standard of living. And then countries where our women can't walk the streets without being groped, pushed and pulled.
Keep using the racist-card out of lack of argument.
This thread is about the failure of multiculturalism and the problems with muslim migrates from an objective point of view.
As the immigration flow from Syria, Iraq, Somalia and other muslim countries has increased in the past year following the conflicts in Middle-East so has the negative side effects of this immigration. Violence crimes and rapes have increased as muslims all over the Europe are overpresented in each of those statistics.
My country Finland has been receiving 15 000 immigrants this year (our whole population is about 5 million) and the number has estimated to be increased to 30 000 for this year. Most (over 90%) of immigrants are young adult males of ages 18-35 and they are mainly from Iraq. In the past two weeks there have been 8 rapes reported done by immigrants. These young iraqi males are harassing young random girls and asking them to come for the night with them and when they decline they call them whores.
Just last weekend a young 18-year old girl was walking home at night from a party when a young immigrant male attacked her in the park and raped her. After the crime he asked for the gril to be his facebook friend??!
The latest incident didn't even involve a women, and not even a human but a cat! Immigrants found a homecat outside their asylum and they took it inside and took a video of another immigrant streching it's limbs and porking it's genitals Iäm not going to post the video here, but here's a photo:
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I am so sick of this. Europe is not going to be able to handle this mass immigration for much longer and with the increase in crime rate this is a huge problem. Yet some of you still belittle this.
So I wanted to make this thread and show you all why islam culture doesn't adjust to western societies. Why multiculturalims has failed. Muslims think western womens are lowly individuals, whores. They do not respect our laws. They do not respect natives. I will prove this statement with the official reports and statistics of each nation:
Britain:
-In 2013 Muslims made up 13.1% of the prison population but just 4% of the general population meaning that they are 3.3 times more likely to be incarcerated than a member of the general population.
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-There are almost three million muslims in Britain (4,8% of the whole population) and they alongside with other non-EU-migrants cost britain 120 billion pounds when european immigrants contributed 5 billion pounds.
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Sweden
-"A report studying 4.4 million Swedes between the ages of 15 and 51 during the period 1997-2001 found that 25% of crimes were committed by foreign-born individuals while and additional 20% were committed by individuals born to foreign-born parents. In particular, immigrants from Africa and Southern and Western Asian were more likely to be charged of a crime than individuals born to two Swedish parents by a factor of 4.5 and 3.5 respectively.
-Findings from a previous study published by the Swedish government in 1996 determined that between 1985 and 1989 individuals born in Iraq, North Africa (Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia), and Africa (excluding Uganda and the North African countries) were convicted of rape at rates 20, 23, and 17 greater than individuals born in Sweden respectively.
Overall, North Africa and Western Asia were strongly overrepresented in the crime statistics."
Germany:
-Merkel says German multicultural society has failed:
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- Thilo Sarrazin, a senior official at Germany's central bank, said that "no immigrant group other than Muslims is so strongly connected with claims on the welfare state and crime".
-Immigrants in Germany are overrepresented in crime statistics. In Berlin, young male immigrants are three times more likely to commit violent crimes than their German peers.[17] The crime rate of immigrants is at first glimpse about 5 times higher than that for Germans
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France:
-"A 2006 study found that the share of immigrants has a positive and significant impact on the crime rate, confirming that a larger share of immigrants is associated with a higher crime rate. There are 4,7 million muslims in France (7,5% of the whole population)"
Denmark:
-individuals whose ethnic background is from Morocco, Somalia, Lebanon, Pakistan and Iraq are still overrepresented as convicted criminals by a factor of 1.5 to 2.5
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Finland:
-According to official statistics, 27.0% of rapes have been committed by foreigners in Finland. Foreigners comprise 2.2% of the population. Most rapes in relation to their numbers are done by muslims as you can see from below.
-Here's a chart of rape crimes in Finland in the year 2013 done by ethnicities. The first colum is for the ethnicity. The second is the number of rapes altogether. The third column is the population of that ethnicity in our country. The last colum (circled numbers) are the factor numbers as a ratio to finnish natives. The factor for finnish natives is 1. So for example Tunisians rape 67 times more than natives!
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Netherlands:
"-Nonwhite Dutch youths are arrested by police and are convicted of a serious crime more often than their White Dutch compatriots. More than half of Moroccan-Dutch youths aged 18 to 24 years in Rotterdam have been investigated by police.
- According to a 2009 study commissioned by Justice Minister Ernst Hirsch Ballin, of 447 criminal files, 63% teenagers convicted of serious crime are children of parents born outside the Netherlands.
The ethnic composition of the files in the study was: "White Dutch" - 37%; Moroccans - 14%; Unknown origin - 14%; "other non-Westerners" - 9%; Turkish - 8%; Surinamese - 7%; Antillean - 7%; and "other Westerners" - 4%"
Switzerland:
-"In Switzerland, 69.7% of prison population did not have Swiss citizenship, compared to 22.1% of total resident population (as of 2008).
-Immigrants from Germany, France and Austria had a significantly lower crime rate than Swiss citizens (60% to 80%), while immigrants from Angola, Nigeria and Algeria had a crime rate of above 600% of that of Swiss population."
Norway:
-"According to a 2011 report by Statistics Norway, in 2009 first,-generation immigrants from Africa were three times more likely than ethnic Norwegians (or rather individuals who are neither first- nor second-generation immigrants) to be convicted of a felony while Somali immigrants in particular being 4.4 times more likely to be convicted of a felony than an ethnic Norwegian was. Similarly, Iraqis and Pakistanis were found to have rates of conviction for felonies greater than ethnic Norwegians by a factor of 3 and 2.6 respectively."
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-Immigrants are also overrepresented in sexual crime statistics. In a news report in 2010, a spokesperson for the Oslo Police Department stated that every case of assault rapes in Oslo in the years 2007, 2008 and 2009 was committed by a non-Western immigrant.
In conclusion
From the kindness of our heart we offer a place to live for these migrants and this is how they pay us? You'd think that the overpresentation in crime statistics from their fellow muslims would change the attitudes of innocent muslims overall as to more humble. Well guess again!
Almost half of the muslim population in Britain wants the most barbaric law of our time: the sharia law to be enforced on brits:
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1/3 of british muslim students thinks that killing in the name of religion is ok:
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Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
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NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
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We in Finland have streched to our limits by giving them temporary places to stay but still there are incidents where these immigrants dare to complain about their meals. Can you actually believe that they are demonstrating in fron of the police stations and asylums that they are being treated poorly?! Treated poorly by a country that loses 1 billion dollars for immigration expenses in a year. By a country whose volunteer workers provide you with food which would satisfy our conscript soldiers in the woods, but no not you who are obviously escaping from the atrocities of war:
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42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
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I must emphasize: these are official statistics, polls and researches.
We are in trouble! If you criticize immigration policy the muslims accuse you of racism. All of this is real and if something isn't done I'm afraid more conflicts and terror attacks may break out. Do you think Europe should close it's borders?
Yes Europe should close its borders and this is such a good thread. Rep+ and greetings from the Netherlands. I like how people dislike this thread when it states FACTS. Butthurt Muslims and lefties everywhere.
Ofcourse you'll only interpret my words in a way that suits your peanutbrained outlook.
I mentioned the culture clash, the FACTUAL statistics concerning the rapes occuring in Europe and regressive medieval sense of logic attacking the european standard of living. And then countries where our women can't walk the streets without being groped, pushed and pulled.
Keep using the racist-card out of lack of argument.
nah dude the problem is not cultural clash.The problem is you are racist against Asian the guy who will try to pin any blame on Asians :lol
Most famous being moaning about your GF in UK.
@bold go back in history and you will find that your forefathers were nothing but bunch of psycho plunderer massacring asians,africans and native americans so that you can enjoy a high standard of livng today
Was not this obvious outcome. They are used different way of life at their home, they have different perspective. Why would they suddenly behave according to European standards? Also Since you are developed country most of your citizens are law abiding well behaved on the other had the new citizens will be poor and organized they can easily overthrow you. This is suicide. What happened to the concept of border, self preservation and immigration laws?
Was not this obvious outcome. They are used different way of life at their home, they have different perspective. Why would they suddenly behave according to European standards? Also Since you are developed country most of your citizens are law abiding well behaved on the other had the new citizens will be poor and organized they can easily overthrow you. This is suicide. What happened to the concept of border, self preservation and immigration laws?
I really don't understand either why the leaders let this happen. All blame falls on the leftist side who claim to be liberals, but there's nothing liberating in the sharia law culture.
