Edo Madara vs DSM Kabuto

[Apêx1]

Madara high diffs

 

[Eng nawashi]

Meteors vs Manda 2 ?

I think Meteors falling speed is too slow to catch something of comparable size ,if not bigger ,but hella fast

 

[Kagustuchi]

No; Naruto with Rikudo Power and Sasuke with Rikudo power matched each other in strength. By default Your post went down hill by bringing them up.

No, down scaling from that tells us BM avatar and Sasuke's PS are equal in pysical stats. Sasukes Kurama chakra Susano'O (which is equal to his PS sine with a Senjutsu boost it even with BSM avatar) cut the Shinju root which is larger than a Moutain.

Manda 2's body alone can Crush mountains so whats your point in PS cutting mountains and not destroying them?

And of the bold? Purely using weight isn't a measure of strength either

t tanked an attack. That doesn't go towards strength nor does it make you strong. Manda 1 Survived a Village explosion before dying minutes later, doesn't go towards his strength though.

Dying afterward isn't tanking. You don't see the point I'm trying to make, you have to be able to reinforce what your defending with to not still get blown back. If your holding a board and a someone kicks it, you can still get knocked back if you havnt braced yourself. You have to be able to hold up against the force.

He slung the 6 tails (which wasn't the heaviest nor compares to Shukaku's body mass of pure sand).

Baseless asumption

And choked and held there necks not overpowered 5 Bijuu that were already weakened.

Again, no proof. The full Bijuu hadnt been out that long. I dont dont see how pysicaly grabbing hold of someone and they cajt do ajything about it isnt overpowering.

Again that doesn't go towards his strength. And even then The Kyubi's Claws wrecked Hashirama's Wood dragon, the tails are much stronger then the smaller claws, you just proved my point even further how the Wood dragon gets rapped!

Not really because I didn't say anything about Mokuryu in my last post. Naruto's claws didn't wreck it either, as he still ended up bound in the end.

I already admitted Mokuryu wouldn't work so I don't see why your still talking about this

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, which is 100 Times smaller then Manda 2s body Diameter. Manda 2 flexes and obliterates Mokyryu instantly! And again Kyubi had no problems with Mokyryu once no chakra was leaking like BM avatar shows.

Same as above

Manda 1 has enough power in the tip of his Tail to send a Bijuu sized beast flying! Manda 2 who has a extremely bigger tail Severely injures a Standard Bijuu with the tip of the tail connects, never mind the entire tail. Mokyryu gets destroyed no diff it isn't even a question.

Still the same as above, the only thing I was arguing was Manda 2 loses to the chakrazords in pysical strength.

 

[Draegod]

No, down scaling from that tells us BM avatar and Sasuke's PS are equal in pysical stats. Sasukes Kurama chakra Susano'O (which is equal to his PS sine with a Senjutsu boost it even with BSM avatar) cut the Shinju root which is larger than a Moutain.



And of the bold? Purely using weight isn't a measure of strength either


Dying afterward isn't tanking. You don't see the point I'm trying to make, you have to be able to reinforce what your defending with to not still get blown back. If your holding a board and a someone kicks it, you can still get knocked back if you havnt braced yourself. You have to be able to hold up against the force.



Baseless asumption

And choked and held there necks not overpowered 5 Bijuu that were already weakened.

Again, no proof. The full Bijuu hadnt been out that long. I dont dont see how pysicaly grabbing hold of someone and they cajt do ajything about it isnt overpowering.



Not really because I didn't say anything about Mokuryu in my last post. Naruto's claws didn't wreck it either, as he still ended up bound in the end.

I already admitted Mokuryu wouldn't work so I don't see why your still talking about this



Same as above



Still the same as above, the only thing I was arguing was Manda 2 loses to the chakrazords in pysical strength.

Lol I thought you admitted on the size, not Ryun being completely useless. My bad bro.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Then you have have all the Mokubunshin attacking him too with their Susano'O.

I don't believe he has anything that outright conters Magatama either

Dont mind elaborating? As in why he can't handle these scenarios/move?

 

[Kagustuchi]

Lol I thought you admitted on the size, not Ryun being completely useless. My bad bro.

Yea man. Edo Madara's Mokuryu would probably on cover enough space to wrap around its head or something like that. Not enough to bind up its movements

Dont mind elaborating? As in why he can't handle these scenarios/move?

I'd like to hear how he can

 

[Curse Mark]

How did Manga tank C0? He died.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Yea man. Edo Madara's Mokuryu would probably on cover enough space to wrap around its head or something like that. Not enough to bind up its movements

@Bold: Dont mean to jump into yall conversation but based on guesstimate, we seen Gyuuki = Kurama Mode =

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Gyuuki measurement to turtle island spikes:

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Spikes length if compare to Manda 2( crossing out the most Gyuuki can cover):

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Its only able to sit on top of it.

I'd like to hear how he can

Then you have have all the Mokubunshin attacking him too with their Susano'O.

I addressed this in my first point: I fail too see how they have the speed to something Kabuto can't react too. Fighting them is not even necessary. Kabuto can make Shadow clones to which each can have a unique task to perform. The main point is they end up all getting entangled by webs, same way Onoki had them all in weighted jutsu. But webs actually is more effected for hitting and dealing with multiple opponents, while Onoki has to touch every single one.

But yea these points sums out the counter:

"-Susanoo clones gets restricted by webs. Or Manda 2 swaps them away"

"-Sound Genjutsu disrupts Madara's chakra, which basically means: Messes/cancels clones, drops Susanoo, stops control over Mokuton, and restricts Madara's movement."

I don't believe he has anything that outright conters Magatama either

I was surprise about this comment. I would have though everyone know this jutsu is practically useless:

1. The jutsu execution is slower then Arrow, which Kabuto can react to.

2. We seen Kabuto being able to perceived it from a mile away[

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], and was unsure why it wasnt aimed at him.

3. Considering Jirobo's strength is transferred to Kabuto, I fail to see what he can swapped them away, if he ever came in tact. At least with chakra scalpel, to those in disagreement.

4. The attack power was tanked by Tsunade, and regenerated. Kabuto's durability and regeneration, he has shown the same speed in recovery would be able to replicate.

5. Hydricfication nullifies physical attacks?

6. Webs can change its course back to Madara?

too many options tbh

How did Manga tank C0? He died.

Im sure he meant as his body didnt get vaporized from the attack.

 

[Curse Mark]

@Bold: Dont mean to jump into yall conversation but based on guesstimate, we seen Gyuuki = Kurama Mode =

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Gyuuki measurement to turtle island spikes:

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Spikes length if compare to Manda 2( crossing out the most Gyuuki can cover):

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Its only able to sit on top of it.





I addressed this in my first point: I fail too see how they have the speed to something Kabuto can't react too. Fighting them is not even necessary. Kabuto can make Shadow clones to which each can have a unique task to perform. The main point is they end up all getting entangled by webs, same way Onoki had them all in weighted jutsu. But webs actually is more effected for hitting and dealing with multiple opponents, while Onoki has to touch every single one.

But yea these points sums out the counter:

"-Susanoo clones gets restricted by webs. Or Manda 2 swaps them away"

"-Sound Genjutsu disrupts Madara's chakra, which basically means: Messes/cancels clones, drops Susanoo, stops control over Mokuton, and restricts Madara's movement."



I was surprise about this comment. I would have though everyone know this jutsu is practically useless:

1. The jutsu execution is slower then Arrow, which Kabuto can react to.

2. We seen Kabuto being able to perceived it from a mile away[

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], and was unsure why it wasnt aimed at him.

3. Considering Jirobo's strength is transferred to Kabuto, I fail to see what he can swapped them away, if he ever came in tact. At least with chakra scalpel, to those in disagreement.

4. The attack power was tanked by Tsunade, and regenerated. Kabuto's durability and regeneration, he has shown the same speed in recovery would be able to replicate.

5. Hydricfication nullifies physical attacks?

6. Webs can change its course back to Madara?

too many options tbh



Im sure he meant as his body didnt get vaporized from the attack.

Wood dragon is coiled in the scan you use, so it's probably about twice the length of kurama avatar, albeit MUCH less wide.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Wood dragon is coiled in the scan you use, so it's probably about twice the length of kurama avatar, albeit MUCH less wide.

WD coiled = Kurama, excluding tail length. Is what I based it on. So un coiled would to = Kurama including tail length

 

[Curse Mark]

WD coiled = Kurama, excluding tail length. Is what I based it on. So un coiled would to = Kurama including tail length

I wouldn't say excluding tail length as about some of them are still there. I'd say wood dragon is 1.5x kurama cloak, not that it really matters. Just saying.

 

[HENI]

Madara wins

 

[Brooks]

Madara wins via Mokuryū no Jutsu...

 

[TRE MERCER]

Manda II solos.