[VS] Edo Utakata Vs EMS Sasuke

[Red Slayer]

Utakata




Vs




Sasuke






Location-Itachi Vs Sasuke
Knowledge-Manga
Diatance-20m
Intent-Kill
Mindset-IC
Restrictions/Conditions:Utakata-is Edo,No regeneration,is perfect Jin,has Obito 3t Sharingan,his rinnegan can use normal ST(lets assume he is deva path,only normal ST), Sasuke has EMS(No PS, Can use V4)
Who Wins?​

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Utakata wins with Bijudama

 

[NarutoX28]

Amaterasu GG.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Sasuke neg diff

 

[EZQ]

If Amaterasu were to be used, he goes back to normal form and uses ST to repel it. Edo regen is restricted but he still can use infinite chakra no? Not to mention, in v2 he should be also immune to amaterasu.

Anyways, if i remember correctly, Sasuke's PS was damaged by RSM naruto's standar TBB, if we downscale the rikudo powers, Sasuke's PS would take damage from a BM naruto's standard TBB, so forget about his v4.

The course of the battle depends on if Utakata can nuke the shit out of him before Sasuke uses any tech to cut the TBB charge. If it becomes a battle of attrition, then the edo wins.

EDIT: But if the difference between BM Naruto's standard TBB and this guy's bijuu's TBB is too large then my calculations won't work.

 

[Brooks]

Utakata get bitc-h slapped.

 

[KidGamer65]

Shinra Tensei repels Amaterasu when used, then Bijuu Dama blows his shit up.

 

[Unorthodox]

Shinra Tensei repels Amaterasu when used, then Bijuu Dama blows his shit up.

because a full bijuu could use shira tensei why do people act like bijuu damas cannot be dodged?

 

[EZQ]

because a full bijuu could use shira tensei why do people act like bijuu damas cannot be dodged?

1- He's a perfect jin on this thread, so he can return to his normal form (with a chakra cloak still on) to prevent the flames from hurting his body until he deflects with ST

2- Because of it's huge AoE? Anyways, Laser BD has been dodged before, the bomb-like can't be dodged since it explodes on the ground and covers a huge area.

Sasuke inside his PS should be able to cover big distances in no time, so i'd say that with PS he can dodge, but its restricted here, and, his v4 without the kiuuby+sm boost should not be able to move fast enough.

 

[Unorthodox]

1- He's a perfect jin on this thread, so he can return to his normal form (with a chakra cloak still on) to prevent the flames from hurting his body until he deflects with ST

Once he goes full bijuu amaterasu lights his ass up thus he's not forming no bijuu dama, good luck trying to throw amaterasu away when it spikes up and chops his ass in half. Once he power downs to any cloaked form susanoo arrows run through his face.

2- Because of it's huge AoE? Anyways, Laser BD has been dodged before, the bomb-like can't be dodged since it explodes on the ground and covers a huge area.

Bijuu dama never happens irrelevant!. shooting it at the ground accomplishes nothing when Sasuke could go underground via Aoda or dodges with his hawk.

Sasuke inside his PS should be able to cover big distances in no time, so i'd say that with PS he can dodge, but its restricted here, and, his v4 without the kiuuby+sm boost should not be able to move fast enough.

This is acceptable.

 

[Beans2]

Either Bijuu Dama, CST, or CT one shots Sasuke.

-Genjutsu countered by partner method.
-Amaterasu can be shed off because the tailed beast is made of slime. Blocking with its tails works too.
-Susanoo isn't a threat so long as Saiken is out if its range, and Utakata in V2 mode can safely retreat to a distance- plus with Shinra Tensei he can control the range of the battle.

 

[Unorthodox]

Either Bijuu Dama, CST, or CT one shots Sasuke.

All gets tanked except bijuu dama. no proof his Shira tensei would even be half the power of Nagato's

Genjutsu countered by partner method.

Gyuki is an experienced genjutsu breaker with the partner method and it takes him atleast 2-3 seconds to break it utakata would take more time that's 2 susanoo arrows plus amaterasu.

Amaterasu can be shed off because the tailed beast is made of slime. Blocking with its tails works too.

Pulled right out the ass his slime has shown no such feat to shed anything as a matter fact once amaterasu lights his ass ablaze the slime is burnt the phuck up then add enton spikes the bijuu is ruined. Blocking with its tails what a joke bijuu not fast enough and what good did that do gyuki?

Susanoo isn't a threat so long as Saiken is out if its range, and Utakata in V2 mode can safely retreat to a distance- plus with Shinra Tensei he can control the range of the battle.

2 susanoo arrows shit on deva path abilities. and if 6 tails can withstand a s/t from pain 4 standing definitely withstands a ST from utakata

 

[Beans2]

All gets tanked except bijuu dama. no proof his Shira tensei would even be half the power of Nagato's

All powered by a bijuu's chakra. So at least the same power as Nagato's. But I just saw only normal level ST is allowed, so scratch that.

Gyuki is an experienced genjutsu breaker with the partner method and it takes him atleast 2-3 seconds to break it utakata would take more time that's 2 susanoo arrows plus amaterasu.

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Hachibi broke genjutsu faster than Itachi's shurikens can reach him at short range, giving him enough time to whip out his swords and deflect them all. And we know how fast Itachi's execution is. That's either Amaterasu or Susanoo arrows, not enough time for both. Zero basis for your claim that Saiken would take longer than Gyuki when OP made Utakata a perfect jin and therefore his relationship with Utakata would be the same as Bee's with Hachibi.

Pulled right out the ass his slime has shown no such feat to shed anything as a matter fact once amaterasu lights his ass ablaze the slime is burnt the phuck up then add enton spikes the bijuu is ruined. Blocking with its tails what a joke bijuu not fast enough and what good did that do gyuki?

:lol. Why would I need feats of Saiken shedding its slime when it's never had a reason to do so? Saiken is covered with a layer of slime every time it's been depicted in the manga.

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The slime can be detached from its body as seen when sheer momentum sent some flying off its tail:

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Slugs like Saiken can secrete mucous off their bodies so it just does the same thing Juubi did

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. Amaterasu can burn through the slime if Sasuke spams enton, but it won't burn fast enough to where it can burn through the slime, spread across Saiken's body and put it in pain - all before it simply forms and fires a TBB.

Hachibi already succesfully blocked Amaterasu with its tails, Saiken does the same. [

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]. As long as it doesn't hit its face, he can charge up and fire a TBB, which kills Sasuke, then he amputates his own limbs covered with fire.

2 susanoo arrows shit on deva path abilities. and if 6 tails can withstand a s/t from pain 4 standing definitely withstands a ST from utakata

1. Utakata enters V2, runs away from Sasuke as far as he can.
2. Once he's a mile away, he enters BM then nukes Sasuke with TBB.

Shinra Tensei honestly isn't needed to win this battle, but it helps. While Sasuke is prepping Susanoo arrows (a process long enough to allow Danzo to weave seals), Utakata uses ST and interrupts the arrows before they're fired (or blows them back regardless if they're fired or not) while at the same time flinging Susanoo back. It doesn't matter if Susanoo tanks with little damage, it accomplishes Utakata's goal which is to put distance between him and Sasuke (so he can charge TBB and use it to one shot.)

 

[Kagustuchi]

Bijudama by scaling blows and arm and a wing off of Sasuke's PS. Lower levels of Susano'O won't be able to withstand it.

 

[Apêx1]

Only Rinnegan technique Utakata was given by OP is Shinra Tensei. Sasuke shits on him by lighting him on fire via Amaterasu or one shotting him with Enton Arrow. Blowing it away with Shinra tensei won't change the fact that his body would be completely obliterated by the time he does via Sasuke's strong Amaterasu, and Utakata gets no regeneration. Sasuke won't watch him, he'll form his Susano and fire an Enton arrow at him to guarantee his victory.

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Bijudama by scaling blows and arm and a wing off of Sasuke's PS. Lower levels of Susano'O won't be able to withstand it.

The combined power of 2, not 1. Utakata should only be able to use 1, but I'm not denying that it will most likely destroy the v4.

 

[Kagustuchi]

The combined power of 2, not 1. Utakata should only be able to use 1, but I'm not denying that it will most likely destroy the v4.

It was only one, Chidori doesn't explode. It's always been a piercing attack.

The only instance I can think of that would support it doing so is when Itachi parried it in part one and it blew out a wall. Even then, all the damage is focused away from the user.

If it exploded then we would have seen a lighting effect around the explosion like when BPS's lightning senbon clashed with BD

 

[Apêx1]

It was only one, Chidori doesn't explode. It's always been a piercing attack.

The only instance I can think of that would support it doing so is when Itachi parried it in part one and it blew out a wall. Even then, all the damage is focused away from the user.

If it exploded then we would have seen a lighting effect around the explosion like when BPS's lightning senbon clashed with BD

Bruh. VOTE 1 ad VOTE 2 explosions are as a result of Cidori+Rasengan unless you thibk Rasengan creates such explosions. Then there's the huge craters Sasuke was inflicting on the boulder, as well as the Chidori explosion in The Last. Wouldn't make any sense for Naruto and Sasuke's attack not to be the explosion. Plus, you can see 2 separate energies in the explosion seemingly equal in volume, denoting that they came from the two attacks and that those two attacks had equal energy.
Explosion of Chidori;

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[EZQ]

Once he goes full bijuu amaterasu lights his ass up thus he's not forming no bijuu dama, good luck trying to throw amaterasu away when it spikes up and chops his ass in half. Once he power downs to any cloaked form susanoo arrows run through his face.



Bijuu dama never happens irrelevant!. shooting it at the ground accomplishes nothing when Sasuke could go underground via Aoda or dodges with his hawk.



This is acceptable.

Don't say irrelevant! When you were the one who asked why it couldn't be dodged.

 

[Unorthodox]

All powered by a bijuu's chakra. So at least the same power as Nagato's. But I just saw only normal level ST is allowed, so scratch that.

All bijuu chakra is still no where near the same so again you assuming they'll be as poweful as pain or Nagato's is a weak argument.

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Hachibi broke genjutsu faster than Itachi's shurikens can reach him at short range, giving him enough time to whip out his swords and deflect them all. And we know how fast Itachi's execution is. That's either Amaterasu or Susanoo arrows, not enough time for both. Zero basis for your claim that Saiken would take longer than Gyuki when OP made Utakata a perfect jin and therefore his relationship with Utakata would be the same as Bee's with Hachibi.

Whole post becomes irrelevant when Itachi told bee he was in a genjutsu as opposed to when we've seen bee not told he's in a genjutsu the time it takes. Being a perfect jin does not mean he's get bee breaking genjutsu feats especially when it has never occur to him in battle yagura was a perfect jin yet genjutsu did him in your point is irrelevant.

Why would I need feats of Saiken shedding its slime when it's never had a reason to do so? Saiken is covered with a layer of slime every time it's been depicted in the manga.

Because without feats him sliming off Amaterasu is fanfiction. Being cover in a thin layer of slime that almost if ever falls off prove he can counter amaterasu boy gtfoh with the nonsense.

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Useless scans are useless.

The slime can be detached from its body as seen when sheer momentum sent some flying off its tail:

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Slugs like Saiken can secrete mucous off their bodies so it just does the same thing Juubi did

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. Amaterasu can burn through the slime if Sasuke spams enton, but it won't burn fast enough to where it can burn through the slime, spread across Saiken's body and put it in pain - all before it simply forms and fires a TBB.

Amaterasu the size of the base of its body is not flying off by it swinging it tails or whatever nor did your scans prove shit especially when we only saw like drips flying off its tails and what not amaterasu roast that thing alive.

Give me some real evidence, portrayal, and other that the bold is Possible or GTFOH.

The initial Amaterasu is as large if not as large as the base of its body you act like the slime is some chakra cloak or something its not even that thick that thing gets burnt up simple as that this slime shit just blew my mind.

Hachibi already succesfully blocked Amaterasu with its tails,

Because coincidences do not exist? How could Gyuki block an attack he's never seen before and is invisible right up till it lights your ass up and fast as shit? Nope Gyuki has no decent speed feat to suggest it was nothing more than dumb luck.

Saiken does the same.

Why because Saiken = Gyuki or because you said so? When a featless bijuu shows any feats to suggest it can react to amaterasu then this post holds relevancy.

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]. As long as it doesn't hit its face, he can charge up and fire a TBB, which kills Sasuke, then he amputates his own limbs covered with fire.

Amaterasu did not hit gyuki face yet it was in no position to fire a bijuu dama and Killerbee durability shits on saiken in every aspect of everything. When Saiken can react to amaterasu then we can talk about this blocking with its tails.

1. Utakata enters V2, runs away from Sasuke as far as he can.

Sasuke's chases that ass with his v4 susanoo which is much faster than that v2 form while firing Susanoo arrows.

Once he's a mile away, he enters BM then nukes Sasuke with TBB.

He never gets a mile away so stfu.

Shinra Tensei honestly isn't needed to win this battle, but it helps. While Sasuke is prepping Susanoo arrows (a process long enough to allow Danzo to weave seals), Utakata uses ST and interrupts the arrows before they're fired (or blows them back regardless if they're fired or not) while at the same time flinging Susanoo back. It doesn't matter if Susanoo tanks with little damage, it accomplishes Utakata's goal which is to put distance between him and Sasuke (so he can charge TBB and use it to one shot.)

Susanoo arrows already stopped danzo in mid hand sigh, Basic shira tensei does nothing to V4 susanoo not when 6 tails could withstand it force for sometime hell v2 Susanoo has not even getting dragged by Baku's suction. If he manages to toss Sasuke amaterasu can still be used while's flying back same with susanoo arrows = Tbb never happening.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Bruh. VOTE 1 ad VOTE 2 explosions are as a result of Cidori+Rasengan unless you thibk Rasengan creates such explosions. Then there's the huge craters Sasuke was inflicting on the boulder, as well as the Chidori explosion in The Last.

More than likely from the attack expanding. If it truly exploded then why doesn't it do so in any other variant? Or anytime it actually hits somebody?

- Didn't when it Garra on two occasions, only cut/pierced
- Didn't when it hit Naruto, only pierced and was blocked
- Didn't when it hit Ay, only pierced
- Didn't against Deidara, only pierced

And Kakashi's has never had the implication of exploding under any circumstances.

Wouldn't make any sense for Naruto and Sasuke's attack not to be the explosion. Plus, you can see 2 separate energies in the explosion seemingly equal in volume, denoting that they came from the two attacks and that those two attacks had equal energy.
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I don't see how it looks like two sperate energies. It just looks like a standard BD, if your talking about the bubble patterns in the middle then thats a feature of BD (it's not always drawn with them but it has been)

As for the last, I havnt seen it. So I really don't know how to counter the Gif.