How Strong/Far would Vengeful Naruto / Menma have gotten?

Bad Touch Yakushi

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Okay so Naruto is a character who is morally strong because of his will and his ability to connect everyone through empathy. That said it IS a miracle that Naruto turned out as positive as he was considering the hand he'd been dealt.

Theoretically- a misbehaving Naruto steals the scroll for Mizuki. Upon learning his identity as the 9 tail jinchuuriki he instead thinks on this and the conditions of his birth and being that little bit less morally tough- Naruto rightfully begins to become resentful and gives into some of Kurama's evil influence.

Naruto never learns his lesson about moral subjectivity with Haku/Zabuza and thus never forms his ninja way. He remains part of Team 7 but with a different personality, Gaara for example- would've been killed. In which ways throughout the series' run does this empower or handicap Naruto strength and opportunity wise?

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Becoming more of a Menma-like character and considering he 9/10 times stays in the Leaf, denying help and stealing techs- how strong does Naruto become in this version of events? Does he surpass the alternate reality Menma?

(He is still Ashura's descendant & access to all of his mentors & abilties as well as new ones & new influences if he ends up meeting them)

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Was Menma simply Kage Summit level Naruto but with an attitude? Or could he go onto become more?

(psst remember Menma was stronger than normal SM Naruto, since untamed Kurama only worked with Naruto because of the special circumstances. Menma isn't literal evil Naruto because of his sharingan and new unique puppet/summon esque jutsu. That said, Menma still interestingly enough manages to earn the rasengan- implying he doesn't stray from Naruto's timeline completely.)
 

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It would most likely hurt him. Sure he'd become a perfect jin simply because his and kurama personalities align more but he most likely isn't picking up sage mode.
 

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Yea no SM. His movepool would have more variety though so , you gain techs & lose em.

A Naruto like you mentioned would be a much more likable character imo.
 

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Kurama would have killed him before part 1.
 

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I would actually be a Naruto/Menma fan. No Hokage Naruto is the better Naruto.
 

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Okay so Naruto is a character who is morally strong because of his will and his ability to connect everyone through empathy. That said it IS a miracle that Naruto turned out as positive as he was considering the hand he'd been dealt.

Theoretically- a misbehaving Naruto steals the scroll for Mizuki. Upon learning his identity as the 9 tail jinchuuriki he instead thinks on this and the conditions of his birth and being that little bit less morally tough- Naruto rightfully begins to become resentful and gives into some of Kurama's evil influence.

Naruto never learns his lesson about moral subjectivity with Haku/Zabuza and thus never forms his ninja way. He remains part of Team 7 but with a different personality, Gaara for example- would've been killed. In which ways throughout the series' run does this empower or handicap Naruto strength and opportunity wise?

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Becoming more of a Menma-like character and considering he 9/10 times stays in the Leaf, denying help and stealing techs- how strong does Naruto become in this version of events? Does he surpass the alternate reality Menma?

(He is still Ashura's descendant & access to all of his mentors & abilties as well as new ones & new influences if he ends up meeting them)

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Was Menma simply Kage Summit level Naruto but with an attitude? Or could he go onto become more?

(psst remember Menma was stronger than normal SM Naruto, since untamed Kurama only worked with Naruto because of the special circumstances. Menma isn't literal evil Naruto because of his sharingan and new unique puppet/summon esque jutsu. That said, Menma still interestingly enough manages to earn the rasengan- implying he doesn't stray from Naruto's timeline completely.)

Menma didn't have Sharingan that was Obito/Tobi

Menma was willing to hunt down Jinchuuriki

There are lots of things a vengeful/Konoha hating Naruto might do...like seek out Orochimaru, Team up with Obito,Kill Haku and Sasuke for his Sharingan(Which might awaken Rinnegan)

An evil Naruto has the potential to rival or surpass current canon Naruto
 

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Same power. He'd just gotten his strength from the desire of vengeance rather than the desire to protect.
 

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He probably would be killing the game right now
 

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If he gave into his hatred Kurama would have leaked out and Naruto would have died.

Naruto is only as poweful as he is because he's always had the cooperation of others, like Kurama. Without that Naruto becomes very weak compared to his current self.

He wouldn't go far at all.
 

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If he gave into his hatred Kurama would have leaked out and Naruto would have died.

Naruto is only as poweful as he is because he's always had the cooperation of others, like Kurama. Without that Naruto becomes very weak compared to his current self.

He wouldn't go far at all.

His power is still birthrights. His good powers such as chakra cloak simply help people around him- their powers never influence his powers. Yamato and Tsunade still keep him sealed away and in control. Menma manages to have gone a life without Kurama killing him. They bonded in a different way. Keep that bias in line.
 
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