[Discussion] Luffys current power

[Uchiha boii]

Is luffy strong enough? Doflamingo arguably the second strongest warlod pushed luffy to extreme diff in g4
Does luffy have a chance againt kaido or upper tiers im not so sure doffy shuldve been down after the first gear 4th onslaught non debatable lyk come onn everytime were introduced to a new gear it finishes the job gear 4 which is the most badass looking couldn't take doffy dwn who was still recovering from gamma knife and in my opinion luffy shuld b yonoku level now he learned from rayleigh he has all hakis and gear 4th to top it off doffy shulda got stomped in my opinion but luffy barely got a victory zoro demolished pica usop bodied sugar ? luffy shulda bust doflamingos ass mid diff high diff at tops in my opinion any way is luffy strong enough or is he hiding something badass lyk gear 5th that he only uses in life or death situations

Alsoo if you guys could break down the warlords strongest too weakest that would be appriecitaed ?

 

[loj]

Luffy defeated Doffy with the help of Law.

So no,he's not ready to take on Kaido.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Luffy defeated Doffy with the help of Law.

So no,he's not ready to take on Kaido.

And dozens of Dressrosa's citizens

 

[arv993]

And dozens of Dressrosa's citizens

Fodders barely count they were just holding back doffy all those fodders are not even a 1000th of help that law was. It's not a stretch to say luffy is comparable to doffy since he took on awakened doffy and held his own. And awakened doffy just needed fingers to move everything not really affected by his injuries there. Doffy is still stronger but not by any big margin.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Fodders barely count they were just holding back doffy. It's not a stretch to say luffy is comparable to doffy since he took on awakened doffy and held his own. And awakened doffy just needed fingers to move everything not really affected by his injuries there. Doffy is still stronger but not by any big margin.

Luffy would be dead if they weren't there. Hardly "barely counting."

 

[arv993]

Luffy would be dead if they weren't there. Hardly "barely counting."

Yea but their impact is negligible in damage terms. Anyways main point is luffy is pretty close to doffy in G4

 

[Ripple Hole]

Luffy barely won.

Yea but their impact is negligible in damage terms.

they helped stall for 10 minutes, doesn't matter if they wrecked anything.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yea but their impact is negligible in damage terms.

No, it's not. Luffy would be dead. The fight would have had a completely different winner and ending. That is not negligible in any way.

 

[arv993]

Luffy barely won.


they helped stall for 10 minutes, doesn't matter if they wrecked anything.

My point is just comparing them in terms of power nothing more nothing less. He was one punch away from beating doffy, but taking damage into account doffy is better.

 

[arv993]

No, it's not. Luffy would be dead. The fight would have had a completely different winner and ending. That is not negligible in any way.

So ur saying they damaged doffy lol. My point is they didn't weaken him any more with damage do u disagree with that.

 

[Punk Hazard]

So ur saying they damaged doffy lol. My point is they didn't weaken him any more with damage do u disagree with that.

No, I'm saying without them, Doffy would have killed Luffy. If you need a dozen people to help you in order to not be killed by someone, you're not on their level.

 

[arv993]

No, I'm saying without them, Doffy would have killed Luffy. If you need a dozen people to help you in order to not be killed by someone, you're not on their level.

Yea I agree he is slightly below, but he is one punch away from a win, when u whoop someone that bad ur pretty darn close. Yea doffy wins in the end but luffy in G4 is pretty close.

 

[UncagedkillaG]

And dozens of Dressrosa's citizens

Luffy had been fighting various opponents throughout the day also...

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yea I agree he is slightly below, but he is one punch away from a win, when u whoop someone that bad ur pretty darn close. Yea doffy wins in the end but luffy in G4 is pretty close.

LOL nope. Luffy needed Doffy to be almost killed in order to get the point where Luffy was immobile and Doffy was wobbling. And then needed dozens of people to save him from being killed. Luffy might exceed Doffy in one or two areas, but Doffy is on a completely different level overall. Luffy is close to a nearly dead Doffy.

 

[arv993]

LOL nope. Luffy needed Doffy to be almost killed in order to get the point where Luffy was immobile and Doffy was wobbling. And then needed dozens of people to save him from being killed. Luffy might exceed Doffy in one or two areas, but Doffy is on a completely different level overall. Luffy is close to a nearly dead Doffy.

He's not nearly dead when he repaired himself and used his awakening that luffy countered. Luffy beat his best techs in some sense. Doffy is more durable no doubt about it. If he was nearly dead he would have died if he was unconscious when he used strings to repair his organs since the strings would disappear. Don't be stupid now come on.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Luffy had been fighting various opponents throughout the day also...

Whatever stamina he lost in the tournament was replenished when he ate afterwards.

The trip to the plateau barely took anything out of him because he was on the back of a bull and a horse, not using his own strength or energy to make the trip. He Jet Stamped Gladius and fought some toys. Hardly on the same level as Law bringing Doffy close to death.

He's not nearly dead when he repaired himself and used his awakening that luffy countered. Luffy beat his best techs in some sense. Doffy is more durable no doubt about it. If he was nearly dead he would have died if he was unconscious when he used strings to repair his organs since the strings would disappear. Don't be stupid now come on.

Doffy explicitly said that stitching his organs didn't heal him in any way. It doesn't restore, repair or rejuvenate him, it simply keeps his organs functioning. The damage and pain is still there, no damage was reversed. Doffy not dying from passing out, which would cause the strings to disappear, is a plothole.

 

[arv993]

Whatever stamina he lost in the tournament was replenished when he ate afterwards.

The trip to the plateau barely took anything out of him because he was on the back of a bull and a horse, not using his own strength or energy to make the trip. He Jet Stamped Gladius and fought some toys. Hardly on the same level as Law bringing Doffy close to death.


Doffy explicitly said that stitching his organs didn't heal him in any way. It doesn't restore, repair or rejuvenate him, it simply keeps his organs functioning. The damage and pain is still there, no damage was reversed. Doffy not dying from passing out, which would cause the strings to disappear, is a plothole.

ofc he wasnt fully healed but he was not nearly dead he was still able to use all his best techs and wasnt slower than he used to be. but he was healed and no its not a plot hole just cuz it doesnt fit your narrative lol. Its obvious his organs werent fully destroyed but he wasn't 100% thats a given.

 

[Punk Hazard]

ofc he wasnt fully healed but he was not nearly dead he was still able to use all his best techs and wasnt slower than he used to be. but he was healed and no its not a plot hole just cuz it doesnt fit your narrative lol. Its obvious his organs werent fully destroyed but he wasn't 100% thats a given.

1. Except Doflamingo did show an obvious decrease in speed. His inferior String Clone could swat away a Jet Pistol, but Doffy himself couldn't notice a Jet Bazooka until it was at his chest after being hit by Gamma Knife.

2. Nope, it is a plothole. Doflamingo clearly said it doesn't heal him.

 

[arv993]

1. Except Doflamingo did show an obvious decrease in speed. His inferior String Clone could swat away a Jet Pistol, but Doffy himself couldn't notice a Jet Bazooka until it was at his chest after being hit by Gamma Knife.

2. Nope, it is a plothole. Doflamingo clearly said it doesn't heal him.

nope watch the fight again he always said luffy's attacks in G2 were fast. and he says im not fully healed and im replacing it, if he didnt he would die at some point. its a decent fix and thus he could still fight and use all his top moves, hes implying its not a complete fix but it does the job and its further proved by him not dying. not a plot hole ur just denying the manga at this point. he is in no way nearly dead in his whole fight with luffy.

 

[YellowFang]

Nope, Doflamingo practically defeated him... It was Luffy, Law and some town's folk who extreme diffed DD...

Luffy's hardest fought battle at his at that time peak remains against Lucci...