So what was decided :Sparks:
You're basically saying the same thing. Sasuke was born with natural talent due to him being an Uchiha. And yes, praising him would be equivalent to praising a son of a billionaire for being rich. But the correspondence is real. Naruto is like someone who was born poor and worked hard to become rich like Sasuke was naturally.
@bold That's what natural talent means.
Everything i state is fact about sasuke. So you think sasuke was just handed mastery over swordsmanship, mastery over his fire & lightening element, over his high level of chakra shape & manipulation? he had to train to with his powerups so he could use them to the best of his ability. You hate him so much you try to deprive him of that :|
but you can't prove he did copying which most likely he did
Sasuke needed less training cause he was talented while Naruto had to train more...Don't even insult Sasuke-kun!Naruto can buy strength but he can't buy skill:sdo2:
You're basically saying the same thing. Sasuke was born with natural talent due to him being an Uchiha. And yes, praising him would be equivalent to praising a son of a billionaire for being rich. But the correspondence is real. Naruto is like someone who was born poor and worked hard to become rich like Sasuke was naturally.
@bold That's what natural talent means.
How the hell do you copy mastery over swordsmanship, fire & lightening nature? Please enlighten me
@bold, fan-fic.First off the thread is about Naruto and Sasuke so drop Lee and Neji
Manga shows more of Naruto training than Sasuke. We have no proof of how long and hard Naruto and Sasuke trained otherwise. Going by manga feats, Naruto trained harder than Sasuke
Sasuke never had to train as hard as Naruto due his natural talent. Although we didnt see a manga panel for every training session they each had, I think it was made pretty clear through the series that Naruto trained as hard as anyone. Add to that, having his clones train gives him a multiplier that in my op gives him the title for training effort.
@bold, fan-fic.
Naruto is better at learning things fast. Something that Sasuke needs his Sharingan to match. And him going from a guy who got slaughtered easily in battle to match a guy who had been been training since he was a little kid , and was being trained by the top uchihas, IS HUGE sign of him being a genius, rather than simply someone who works hard.
Reason why Neji/Lee were mentioned is, because they are literally the downgraded version of Sasuke/Naruto.
Even Kakashi saw through the entire thing, while fans and even gai didn't see the fact that Rock Lee was a bloody "genius", and no i'm not talking about "genius of hardwork" << thats something Gai said.
Similarly, only few people saw Naruto's potential, and I believe even Jiraiya knew that Naruto was a genius.
To be honest pre MS Sasuke trained as hard as Naruto. Post MS Sasuke didnt train at all, his powers were result of his DNA/eyepulls.
Who trained harder? lol.
Sasuke didn't even train for his powers let alone train hard. He got everything on plate. Thanks to Itachi senpai,Obito sensei and Hagoromo sama that he got MS,EMS and Rinnegan.
On the Other hand,Naruto trained hard for Rasengan, FRS, SM, KCM and Bijuudama training. No one can endure SM training.It is one of the hardest training.
Whoever Says that sasuke trained for his power is a biased person
U know the shiragan can copy moves rite
Bold is speculation and your opinion at best. I asked for manga scans and you are posting opinons and the thread has nothing to do with Lee or Neji so stop mentioning them, they are irrelevant
Speculation and my opinion at best? Are you joking me?
- rasengan in a week, with messed up chakra control
- SM in a week
- Was handling kyuubi chakra like a pro in 1 day
- able to do something only Kurama can do with his chakra, on his first try.
Naruto : A guy who became the strongest in 4 years of being a legit ninja.
Sasuke: A guy who had been training since he was a little kid.
Naruto: Crying in his home, pranking people, and so on
Sasuke : training, studying, and going on mini-missions with his brother
And you claim Naruto worked harder? I think not.
Sasuke/Neji trained more than Naruto/Rock Lee
^^^^^^ Story Timeline is a proof to that. So in actuality the ones who were credited to "hardwork", were the real geniuses. And the ones who were called "geniuses" were the ones who did the more hardwork.
As for the Kurama/Uchiha matter...... Naruto would've been able to keep up with Sasuke without Kurama until Sasuke unlocked his EMS.
And EMS isn't solely a power that is Sasuke's only. And for that Naruto would've needed Kurama.
Yes it is speculation, are you kishi? Did you by any chance get the leaked files of how Naruto trained harder? Notice how I said based off the manga, if that's what you are referring to then you are correct but this was your original post
Still waiting to see those manga scans