[Discussion] Is God a mystery or a man?

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You are beyond help. I am not wasting my time on you. Half understanding of scientific facts, leaving important facts out and mixing it with weird fictitious stories only works with school dropouts. You are not convincing anyone else.

Just so you know most of the theories your God or his angels are using are based on discoveries already done in 18th and till early 19 century.

They started a new religion based on that to give a sense of racial pride. But it's flawed for the reason that in doing so it promotes the racism in it's own turn.

The version of Quran NOI uses is said to be Indian version used by Ahmadiyas. But obviously NOI in turn tweaked it more to suit them. So it's more like an off shoot. Ahmadiya themselves are not recognized as Muslims in many more orthodox countries. So while I haven't bothered to check I doubt NOI version has many buyers in Arab countries despite your claims of your god coming from Arabia.
Who said I needed help? If I'm that crazy then so are you for arguing with a crazy man. But in not crazy so it was more of an argument on something that you don't comprehend. You tried to argue with me on something I've known for a pretty long time. And I just pointed out the beginning of your article which is the main point and idea. Caucasians are not native to anywhere
 

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Who said I needed help? If I'm that crazy then so are you for arguing with a crazy man. But in not crazy so it was more of an argument on something that you don't comprehend. You tried to argue with me on something I've known for a pretty long time. And I just pointed out the beginning of your article which is the main point and idea. Caucasians are not native to anywhere

They are very much native to the place they lived and evolved with the climatic conditions in the region. Otherwise following your logic seeing the common ancestor of us maybe a fish - none of us would be 'native to any land.
 
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They are very much native to the place they lived and evolved with the climatic conditions in the region. Otherwise following your logic seeing the common ancestor of us maybe a fish - none of us would be 'native to any land.

They are not native there if they got there "relatively recently". If they came from another people, then they do not come from any land. They come from a people. I don't even have to bring up the Yakub teaching. It is a fact that you cannot get white unless you get it from black. Black people were in Europe before any white man and even resided there. I'm sure you've heard of the Moors of Morocco. They had been going to Europe. Climatic conditions did not make them white. Come on now that's child thinkng. If climatic conditions made anyone white, the Eskimos, who are original people, would be pale as shit. They're not pale at all. In fact there's dark skinned Eskimos. South America has some places where the weather gets extremely cold. The original people there did not turn pale. That is a false statement. The climate does not turn black people white. Did you say none of us native to any land when all scientific evidence points to civilization starting in Africa? Are you kidding me? Do you think we just pooped up spontaneously? Human beings do not come from fish, we come from God. But if you don't believe in God you can be at a stalemate with science and will cease to understand where human beings and the universe came from.

Black people can live anywhere because they are native to the earth. The sun does not hurt us and the cold parts of the planet does not change our complexion.
 

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Black people can live anywhere because they are native to the earth. The sun does not hurt us and the cold parts of the planet does not change our complexion.

What about and their from it? ( not counting the people who would have the related gene due to mix ethnicity).

Melanin protects the skin against ultraviolet light. But by blocking the sun’s rays, melanin affects the So the darker the skin, the less vitamin D you produce. In the scientific literature, the difference is striking.

It was clear you had paid no attention about the genetic variation the light skinned had developed to be able to survive in the climatic condition they were in and without which they couldn't have survived long in that region, despite quoting from that article.

Everyone can live anywhere today because we have tons of medical supplements and resources to make up for what we lack naturally. If original ancestors were suitable for all the climates they might not have evolved this way. People in different regions developed in a way to suit their climate.
 
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People trying to discover the essence of God by asking someone who spends as much time as they do on the forum..

Asking people who know nothing more than the person asking will end up in creating theories because neither of the parties know something.

God is up there in the real world not in the ideas of a forum.
 

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What about and their from it? ( not counting the people who would have the related gene due to mix ethnicity).

Melanin protects the skin against ultraviolet light. But by blocking the sun’s rays, melanin affects the So the darker the skin, the less vitamin D you produce. In the scientific literature, the difference is striking.

It was clear you had paid no attention about the genetic variation the light skinned had developed to be able to survive in the climatic condition they were in and without which they couldn't have survived long in that region, despite quoting from that article.

Everyone can live anywhere today because we have tons of medical supplements and resources to make up for what we lack naturally. If original ancestors were suitable for all the climates they might not have evolved this way. People in different regions developed in a way to suit their climate.

Light skin does not come from the weather. Light skin comes from blackness. White people did not turn white because of the weather. In Europe they were very hairy. They were the rea Neanderthals. When they went savage in Europe that's where Neanderthals came came from. And that's also where dog became "mans best friend" because the dogs used to bark in the caves which echoed and sent off other animals scared. It was their protectors. Dog is the Europeans best friend. Caucasians developed traits like narrow and long noses from the weather. The weather is not the reason for light skin and definitely not the reason for pale skin. Also, you know it took a long process to get Caucasian people because they come from black, which we have already established, and if it was down in a short time, black people would be giving birth to white people. Now we know black is dominant which means it can produce anything from the darkest of colors to even albino. But they do not give birth to white. White has to be continuously born out whiter and whiter.
Also if the weather made them light why are the Eskimos dark?
 

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Light skin does not come from the weather. Light skin comes from blackness. White people did not turn white because of the weather. In Europe they were very hairy. They were the rea Neanderthals. When they went savage in Europe that's where Neanderthals came came from. And that's also where dog became "mans best friend" because the dogs used to bark in the caves which echoed and sent off other animals scared. It was their protectors. Dog is the Europeans best friend. Caucasians developed traits like narrow and long noses from the weather. The weather is not the reason for light skin and definitely not the reason for pale skin. Also, you know it took a long process to get Caucasian people because they come from black, which we have already established, and if it was down in a short time, black people would be giving birth to white people. Now we know black is dominant which means it can produce anything from the darkest of colors to even albino. But they do not give birth to white. White has to be continuously born out whiter and whiter.
Also if the weather made them light why are the Eskimos dark?

Only thing you established is that you have nothing to back you up but your words based on very limited understanding of scientific concepts and facts.

" Inuits vitamin D intake wasn’t dependent upon the sun. They get all that they need from their diet, heavy on types of fatty fish that are naturally rich in vitamin D. The plentiful amounts of the vitamin kept them from developing less melanin. In fact, before milk was fortified with D, people living outside of Northern Canada and Alaska loaded their diets with fishy products, such as cod liver oil, to get their daily supplement. So despite their chilly climate and lack of sun exposure, it’s the Inuit diet that has kept them in their natural glow"


I should start charging you tuition fee.
 

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Only thing you established is that you have nothing to back you up but your words based on very limited understanding of scientific concepts and facts.

" Inuits vitamin D intake wasn’t dependent upon the sun. They get all that they need from their diet, heavy on types of fatty fish that are naturally rich in vitamin D. The plentiful amounts of the vitamin kept them from developing less melanin. In fact, before milk was fortified with D, people living outside of Northern Canada and Alaska loaded their diets with fishy products, such as cod liver oil, to get their daily supplement. So despite their chilly climate and lack of sun exposure, it’s the Inuit diet that has kept them in their natural glow"


I should start charging you tuition fee.

It said natural glow not skin tone. Maybe you should take a class on melanin. Melanin does give skin tone but the weather will not make you lighter. If you wanna know about melanin watch Hidden Colors.

This still doesn't change the fact that Caucasian people did not become white because of the weather. White is not a natural color. White comes when all the color has been removed. White is complete opposite of original. Everything starts black. Fire is a purifying agent and it breaks things down to their simplest form. When you set something on fire it doesn't turn white, it turns black. Black is the original essence of everything. Scientists today are even saying dark matter is what everything is made up of. The weather cannot affect your color so much that you turn pale. It just doesn't happen. And if Caucasian people were turned white by the weather, then after they stole and colonized Africa they should have gotten dark skinned again. They've been in Africa for generations after conquering the lands there. Even going back to the times of Greece when they conquered Egypt. They can't get darker but black people can get darker and lighter. They're naturally dominant.
 

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god is just something humans say to translate a superior inteligence and energy.

I dont think we are able to understand it, so some reduce to A BEARDED MAN who judge others. But "god" isn't it. No one need's to go to a churchy or mosque or any monument or time to communicate with it.

It's just there.

God is mostly the universe, but not in the physical way, cause it created the universe.
All phyysical and even spiritual reactions happens because of it, and it's above religions and actual science. But the human kind one day will touch and understand it. But now.... is far way.

I think the science and humand kind had made some developments, nowadays with the quantum physics. But by the way is now stagnant. In the future they will find other ways to evolve further and discover the mysteries of human existence, god, life after death and its origins.

It's that what I think.
 
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How I see the word 'god' is it stands for that which religious people can't grasp let alone understand but would like to claim so.
''The human anatomy? eeeeh..god created it!''

In my own interpretation it is a universal consciousness. Something you tap into, not bow down to as that wouldn't make any sense. It's something internal, not external as people with outdated logic force on their children generation after generation.

Its something any human could reach if tapped/tuned into. The lack of physical identification, becoming pure observation without losing your ego whilest in that state of being as that's dangerous.
 

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How I see the word 'god' is it stands for that which religious people can't grasp let alone understand but would like to claim so.
''The human anatomy? eeeeh..god created it!''

In my own interpretation it is a universal consciousness. Something you tap into, not bow down to as that wouldn't make any sense. It's something internal, not external as people with outdated logic force on their children generation after generation.

Its something any human could reach if tapped/tuned into. The lack of physical identification, becoming pure observation without losing your ego whilest in that state of being as that's dangerous.
That's what I've been trying to say. God is within us. It's just a power that lays dormant. And I also agree with you that we should not bow down to the universe when we are greater than all of creation. But then I also believe there can only be one God with a big G at a time. I believe God is the person with the most knowledge and wisdom in the universe and he can put into reality that knowledge and I also believe he's a human being. I believe there can only be one God because two things can't occupy the same space at the same time.

Edit: yes man is God but our bodies house the energy which is God. Our minds our really what our body houses and our body is the instrument to get around. Our mind is electrify which is energy. So we are energy beings but we would mean nothing without our bodies. Or something in that manner I don't really know
 
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That's what I've been trying to say. God is within us. It's just a pkwer that lays dormant. And I also agree with you that we should not bow down to the universe when we are greater than all of creation. But then I also believe there can only be one God with a big G at a time. I believe God is the person with the most knowledge and wisdom in the universe and he can put into reality that knowledge and I also believe he's a human being. I believe there can only be one God because two things can't occupy the same space at the same time.

Edit: yes man is God but our bodies house the energy which is God. Our minds our really what our body houses and our body is the instrument to get around. Our mind is electrify which is energy. So we are energy beings but we would mean nothing without our bodies. Or something in that manner I don't really know

Well..thanks for the credits for one. Yeah, and this is even commonly preached by religious folks (god is within) but also gravely misinterpreted and applied.

But I did not say we are the greatest creation. When you reach that state of being I call one-ness you feel connected and equal to every and any creation..may it be a frog or a dog. Consciousness is what connnects, there are no differences as we're not looking at physical manifestation but the soul underneith.

But yes, I agree. We are beings of light. Interesting how that line stuck with me as I see auras and when I do it's like people are radiating light from underneith their skin.
 

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Well..thanks for the credits for one. Yeah, and this is even commonly preached by religious folks (god is within) but also gravely misinterpreted and applied.

But I did not say we are the greatest creation. When you reach that state of being I call one-ness you feel connected and equal to every and any creation..may it be a frog or a dog. Consciousness is what connnects, there are no differences as we're not looking at physical manifestation but the soul underneith.

But yes, I agree. We are beings of light. Interesting how that line stuck with me as I see auras and when I do it's like people are radiating light from underneith their skin.

I heard in old civilizations the people could see other peoples auras. And you can see auras?!?!? That's freakn awesome. And I swear you just described it from how ancient civilizations did it.

I'm saying we're the greatest of creation because we can do any and everything. We can make whatever we think come into reality. Yes we should be one with the universe. Did you know everything in our bodies is a representation of some part of the universe? How our bodies have nine systems and are governed by the brain, so does our solar system have nine systems that are governed by the sun. It's sooooo many things. Our mind is an infinite space like the universe and has an infinite potential like the universe. Animals and other creation are completely bound by the laws they were created with. We on the other hand can do what we want. We can do what we want and follow the laws we were created by
 

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I heard in old civilizations the people could see other peoples auras. And you can see auras?!?!? That's freakn awesome. And I swear you just described it from how ancient civilizations did it.

I'm saying we're the greatest of creation because we can do any and everything. We can make whatever we think come into reality. Yes we should be one with the universe. Did you know everything in our bodies is a representation of some part of the universe? How our bodies have nine systems and are governed by the brain, so does our solar system have nine systems that are governed by the sun. It's sooooo many things. Our mind is an infinite space like the universe and has an infinite potential like the universe. Animals and other creation are completely bound by the laws they were created with. We on the other hand can do what we want. We can do what we want and follow the laws we were created by

Aaaah yes if you look at it that way, than you're right. The human brain = god.

And yes I do amongst some other things. But I'm not hyper sensitive as my ex and a handful of people I know. I experienced bizarre things because of them. My ex was at my place a while ago and she was tormented by 'something' that was in my house I told her about beforehand. I am at the level I see it passing by and feel it draining me. She is at another level in which she can pinpoint its location and sense it's intention. (what it wants and how it feels) I can't do that. Also she reads people so thoroughly without knowing them in person she made one of my friends cry.
 

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Aaaah yes if you look at it that way, than you're right. The human brain = god.

And yes I do amongst some other things. But I'm not hyper sensitive as my ex and a handful of people I know. I experienced bizarre things because of them. My ex was at my place a while ago and she was tormented by 'something' that was in my house I told her about beforehand. I am at the level I see it passing by and feel it draining me. She is at another level in which she can pinpoint its location and sense it's intention. (what it wants and how it feels) I can't do that. Also she reads people so thoroughly without knowing them in person she made one of my friends cry.

Damn you guys are on some hardcore next level shit. I can read people very good also and I'm a dude. I get it from my mom. She can see shit from 1000 miles away. Even if she's too soon, what she said would happen for the most part that is not always. All women have a natural intuition. I somehow have it a little as well. Your ex is a genius. I need to ask her a few questions about thsi girl I know. If she can read people without knowing them that's pretty awesome.

The human mind has no limits. I hope one day I can tap all the way into mines. That would be a dream come true. But it's really how strong your will is. If you really want it you will get it.
 

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Damn you guys are on some hardcore next level shit. I can read people very good also and I'm a dude. I get it from my mom. She can see shit from 1000 miles away. Even if she's too soon, what she said would happen for the most part that is not always. All women have a natural intuition. I somehow have it a little as well. Your ex is a genius. I need to ask her a few questions about thsi girl I know. If she can read people without knowing them that's pretty awesome.

The human mind has no limits. I hope one day I can tap all the way into mines. That would be a dream come true. But it's really how strong your will is. If you really want it you will get it.

I'm only speaking from my own experience. I've always been a sober atheist and my parents failed to make me a devoted christian since I was young. young young. But I did experience some things that people would call bs.

Like telepathy. You know a mother knows when her child is dead or not? That intuition? It's like that. I sleep soundly at night only to suddenly be woken up in the middle of my dream and I hear her voice loud and clear in my head as if she's standing over me in real. So I hear her voice and I feel the emotions with which she emits those words. Paranoia, fear, etc. So before I even unlocked my phone to call her, my phone rang. It's because our energies were alligned and accepting of each other. Later on, I blocked myself out from her so I barely notice if something is up. But almost all our intention experiments were successful. The only unsuccessful ones are the ones in which I'm not entirely focused or just not tuned in.
 

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I'm only speaking from my own experience. I've always been a sober atheist and my parents failed to make me a devoted christian since I was young. young young. But I did experience some things that people would call bs.

Like telepathy. You know a mother knows when her child is dead or not? That intuition? It's like that. I sleep soundly at night only to suddenly be woken up in the middle of my dream and I hear her voice loud and clear in my head as if she's standing over me in real. So I hear her voice and I feel the emotions with which she emits those words. Paranoia, fear, etc. So before I even unlocked my phone to call her, my phone rang. It's because our energies were alligned and accepting of each other. Later on, I blocked myself out from her so I barely notice if something is up. But almost all our intention experiments were successful. The only unsuccessful ones are the ones in which I'm not entirely focused or just not tuned in.

I was trying to text thsi girl and the moment I texted her her phone was off and it sent an error message. Next thing you knwo at the same moment, she texts me on another app not even knowing that I texted her phone. Somehow we texted each other at the same time and she didn't even know I was trying to text her. I didn't even tell her that happened. I like her tho. And I won't say if she likes me or not even though there are signs because last time I told her she liked me she made it a point to say that she didn't. So I think I'll wait for her to say it with her mouth. I mean she did say she liked me from a dream but then she said that like only lasted for 2 days. But now more than ever it seems like she likes me. She's doing things she's never done before with me. And telling me things she used to never tell me. But maybe you can give me your opinion on it?
 

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I was trying to text thsi girl and the moment I texted her her phone was off and it sent an error message. Next thing you knwo at the same moment, she texts me on another app not even knowing that I texted her phone. Somehow we texted each other at the same time and she didn't even know I was trying to text her. I didn't even tell her that happened. I like her tho. And I won't say if she likes me or not even though there are signs because last time I told her she liked me she made it a point to say that she didn't. So I think I'll wait for her to say it with her mouth. I mean she did say she liked me from a dream but then she said that like only lasted for 2 days. But now more than ever it seems like she likes me. She's doing things she's never done before with me. And telling me things she used to never tell me. But maybe you can give me your opinion on it?

Oh man, this happens on a daily basis for me. I'm half asleep and for some reason I feel the need to reach for my phone, 'BLING' message incoming. Or I message her and before I finish my text, she's online and says 'haha' or 'beat you to it'.

You're somewhat alligned with that girl, so you're more prone to read/feel each other. Which is a good sign ;)
 

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Oh man, this happens on a daily basis for me. I'm half asleep and for some reason I feel the need to reach for my phone, 'BLING' message incoming. Or I message her and before I finish my text, she's online and says 'haha' or 'beat you to it'.

You're somewhat alligned with that girl, so you're more prone to read/feel each other. Which is a good sign ;)
Thanks for the info, fam.
You know cell phones are just a handicap for what the human mind can do. Cell phones use waves to connect with each other. It's not impossible for the brain to send waves from one person to another. We just have to learn to access it
 
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