drake...honestly explain the appeal

[SonictheHedgehog]

No. Not really(at least i dont). I can give 0 fcks about an artists personal life (unless he chooses to reveal that in his music) and still like the artist because his music is good (I.e. bangers)

Look at kanye.
Look at chrisk brown.

You're missing the point...

I'm not implying that the rapper's personality or personal life should be all you care about.

However, when you ask if "bangers" is all an artist needs in this genre, something is obviously wrong.

Then, is it safe to assume that when Drake's music stops being popular, or he stops producing what the masses consider to be "bangers", you'll jump on the wave of the next rapper that can do the same thing?

Are the "bangers" really the only reason you like Drake? Are you truly that shallow?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You're missing the point...

I'm not implying that the rapper's personality or personal life should be all you care about.

However, when you ask if "bangers" is all an artist needs in this genre, something is obviously wrong.

Then, is it safe to assume that when Drake's music stops being popular, or he stops producing what the masses consider to be "bangers", you'll jump on the wave of the next rapper that can do the same thing?

Are the "bangers" really the only reason you like Drake? Are you truly that shallow?

Why is liking an artist solely for their craft considered shallow? Since when was their life story a reflection of their talents?

No its not safe to assume that. Never once did I imply that.If i did show me.
I simply stated as long as the music is good. You shouldn't need anything else. That fact that you think its necessary to have more means the music itself doesn't hold enough weight.

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

Why is liking an artist solely for their craft considered shallow?

Last time I checked...a prerequisite for crafting hip hop music is/should be to have more than the ability to spit over "bangers".

If "bangers" are what you want, the producer deserves the praise you're giving to the rapper...

Since when was their life story a reflection of their talents?

When did I say it was? Quote me.

Actually, I believe I made a disclaimer about me trying to say that in my last post.

No its not safe to assume that. Never once did I imply that.If i did show me.

Your initial post was literally:

he makes bangers. do you need more appeal than that?

Your infatuation with "bangers" leads me to believe you're a wave-riding type of fan...

My assumption doesn't appear to be too far fetched.

I simply stated as long as the music is good. You shouldn't need anything else.

That wasn't your initial statement, though.

Not all "bangers" are pieces of "good music", and vice versa...

I hope you weren't trying to redefine the term "banger"...as it's obviously not merely the equivalent of a decent record.

That fact that you think its necessary to have more means the music itself doesn't hold enough weight.

No...it doesn't mean that at all...

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Last time I checked...a prerequisite for crafting hip hop music is/should be to have more than the ability to spit over "bangers".

If "bangers" are what you want, the producer deserves the praise you're giving to the rapper...

"Banger" according to urban dictionary: If a Song is extremly tight or just unbelivably awesome. It is a banger.

Definition of "banger" according to me3rd time I'm saying it now)

Banger=good music

Now if you're going to critique me do it based off of what I said the word means. Not off of what you think the word means. Cuz that seems to be where most of your incorrect assumptions come from.
The rest is just argument off of the misunderstanding.

When did I say it was? Quote me.

Actually, I believe I made a disclaimer about me trying to say that in my last post.



Your initial post was literally:



Your infatuation with "bangers" leads me to believe you're a wave-riding type of fan...

My assumption doesn't appear to be too far fetched.





That wasn't your initial statement, though.

Not all "bangers" are pieces of "good music", and vice versa...

I hope you weren't trying to redefine the term "banger"...as it's obviously not merely the equivalent of a decent record.



No...it doesn't mean that at all...

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

"Banger" according to urban dictionary: If a Song is extremly tight or just unbelivably awesome. It is a banger.

Definition of "banger" according to me3rd time I'm saying it now)

Banger=good music

Now if you're going to critique me do it based off of what I said the word means. Not off of what you think the word means. Cuz that seems to be where most of your incorrect assumptions come from.
The rest is just argument off of the misunderstanding.

Your source material is Urban Dictionary, huh?...

I think it's time to end this discussion then. Listen to what you want to.

 

[BanGinji]

Consistent catchy songs = success

it's not the only thing that works but it's been a pretty solid technique forever.Bonus points if your at least somewhat handsome and make several songs geared towards women. That's really how you win.

Boy bands might not be a thing anymore, but the ideal lives on.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Drake is a rapper. Not an artist. He's a rapper. Drake makes music because it's his job. He makes music that he knows will make him money. Drake is a posterboy. What he does is replaceable; another rapper will come along and do what he does, either so much better than people forget about Drake, or after Drake's spark has run out. He's not on the level of artists like Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, Childish Gambino, Ab-Soul(just listing some of my favorites as examples).

He's a pop artist who 'can' dabble in R&B. It's not necessarily that he has talent that he gets so much love, just the fact that he has so much exposure with the masses(A pop artist). He's the male version of Nicki Minaj.

YES, exactly.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Your source material is Urban Dictionary, huh?...

I think it's time to end this discussion then. Listen to what you want to.

You wanna tell me what you think "banger" means? Since apparently your definition is somehow superior to anyone else's? Do you have reputable sources, and citations to back it up in MLA format?





Like seriously. You jumped out the window with this "wave rider" bullshit when I told you multiple times what the word means to me.

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

You wanna tell me what you think "banger" means? Since apparently your definition is somehow superior to anyone else's? Do you have reputable sources, and citations to back it up in MLA format?

When did I say that my definition was superior to anyone else's? Quote me.

Like seriously. You jumped out the window with this "wave rider" bullshit when I told you multiple times what the word means to me.

I asked you a question. Did I hurt your feelings by doing so?

I don't care what the word means to you. Your source was Urban Dictionary. I told you, there's no reason to continue this conversation.

Move along, and interpret terms however you'd like to. It doesn't concern me.

What he does is replaceable; another rapper will come along and do what he does, either so much better than people forget about Drake, or after Drake's spark has run out.

Same thing that happened to his mentor.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

When did I say that my definition was superior to anyone else's? Quote me.

You didn't. But that isn't the point. Since the word clearly means something else to you, and what I said it means isn't acceptable in your eyes. Please post what you think it means. You're saying I'm obsessed with the word but you're using way more than I am.

I asked you a question. Did I hurt your feelings by doing so?

No, since I answered your question:

I can give 0 fcks about an artists personal life (unless he chooses to reveal that in his music) and still like the artist because his music is good (I.e. bangers)

That's when you went left with these wild assumptions. Talking about my "obsessions" lmfao.

I don't care what the word means to you. Your source was Urban Dictionary. I told you, there's no reason to continue this conversation

if you don't care then don't quote me.

Move along, and interpret terms however you'd like to. It doesn't concern me.

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

You didn't.

Then don't respond to me as if I did.

But that isn't the point.

If your point is centered around my (nonexistent) supercilious statements, then me not presenting those statements seems to be relevant to the conversation.

Since the word clearly means something else to you, and what I said it means isn't acceptable in your eyes. Please post what you think it means. You're saying I'm obsessed with the word but you're using way more than I am.

There's no need to further discuss it...if your source is Urban Dictionary, then you are free to believe what you want. Trying to extend the debate is futile.

You shouldn't place words in my posts that weren't there. I never said that your interpretation of the term was unacceptable...unless, of course, you can quote me saying that.

That's when you went left with these wild assumptions. Talking about my "obsessions" lmfao.

When your statement is based on one thing being the only significant form of appeal a rapper needs, it leaves questions to be asked.

Thus, my assumptions were formed as a result of things that you stated.

Surprising, right?

if you don't care then don't quote me.

If you can't even differentiate a casual response from me being genuinely concerned about your usage of slang, then Urban Dictionary being your go-to is understandable.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Then don't respond to me as if I did.



If your point is centered around my (nonexistent) supercilious statements, then me not presenting those statements seems to be relevant to the conversation.



There's no need to further discuss it...if your source is Urban Dictionary, then you are free to believe what you want. Trying to extend the debate is futile.

You shouldn't place words in my posts that weren't there. I never said that your interpretation of the term was unacceptable...unless, of course, you can quote me saying that.

I hope you weren't trying to redefine the term "banger"...as it's obviously not merely the equivalent of a decent record

When your statement is based on one thing being the only significant form of appeal a rapper needs, it leaves questions to be asked.

And i answered your questions. The only thing that should appeal someone to an artist is his craft.

Thus, my assumptions were formed as a result of things that you stated.

Surprising, right?

It is seeing as how the two have no correlation.

If you can't even differentiate a casual response from me being genuinely concerned about your usage of slang, then Urban Dictionary being your go-to is understandable.

You're speaking as if slang words have definite meanings. Your whole argument is derived from how I used the word banger. Yet as I try to reach a conclusion asking for your definition of the word to make a comparison you side step the question with the above.

Tell me what you think the word means so we can go on with our lives.

Op asked what appealed people to drake.
I replied with "his music"(as any artist should)

You come from left saying we need more. And im a wave rider.
Looking back thought the thread most of your posts is unexplained assumptions. You even came at the op for posting his opinion saying:

You just seem like one of those contrarians that hates Drake because he's extremely popular.

Instead of just answering the mans question.


Were are you getting these idea's from?

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

I never said it was unacceptable. I said I hope you weren't trying to give the term that kind of definition.

And i answered your questions. The only thing that should appeal someone to an artist is his craft.

Then you should have said that in your initial post.

It is seeing as how the two have no correlation.

You shouldn't be surprised by your statements being used to form assumptions.

You're speaking as if slang words have definite meanings. Your whole argument is derived from how I used the word banger. Yet as I try to reach a conclusion asking for your definition of the word to make a comparison you side step the question with the above.

That's because it's pointless trying to debate about the definition of a slang term you got from Urban Dictionary.

Op asked what appealed people to drake.
I replied with "his music"(as any artist should)

You replied with "bangers".

You come from left saying we need more. And im a wave rider.

I asked if that's what you were, and followed by stating that your infatuation with "bangers" leads me to believe you are one.

Looking back thought the thread most of your posts is unexplained assumptions. You even came at the op for posting his opinion saying:

Instead of just answering the mans question.

How I respond to a topic doesn't really matter. I don't really have to answer the question when it wasn't out of sincere curiosity to begin with. Even if it was, I wouldn't be obligated to do so.

Were are you getting these idea's from?

It doesn't surprise me that this puzzles you.

Tell me what you think the word means so we can go on with our lives.

Not necessary. That's not something you need to worry about, because I told you multiple times already to use whatever terminology you were comfortable with in whatever fashion you please.

Instead, you extended the argument.

So now, since you're so content to converse with me, I'm going to cut off this discussion by blocking you.

If you feel like wasting your time typing up a rebuttal again, that is your decision. I won't see it.

Enjoy your hip hopping to whatever artist can quench your thirst for "bangers". Try not to invest too much of your time in stanning Drake. He won't be around forever.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Claims the op is a hater
Claims that I'm a wave rider that only follows the hype.
Claims I'm a drake stan(how could you even be both?)

Asserts these claims as facts
All without any proof whatsoever.

Bruh you need help.

 

[kuchiyosenojutsuironmaidn]

People like Drake because he begs them to in his songs. Here's Drake's subject matter:


I'm better than all of my predecessors

Older rappers hate on me

I'm into women

I'll do or say anything to make a woman like me despite how successful I am

Wayne fathered my career

Jokes and puns

Repeat

I aint throwin' rocks, though. This is just how I view him. I listen to lyrics, I rap to beats. A banger is nothing if I can't puff to it. Just sayin'

:wesobi:

:wesobi:

 

[Tantalus Thief]

I think Drake is mediocre at best. He has ghost writers, his lyrics are slightly above subpar, he isn't original, he's just more of a mainstream, cliche rapper. Of course that's just my opinion, people like different things, I like conscious rap because it tends to have more lyrical substance, I mean, how tf can a song titled "hotline bling" become so popular when his dancing is a complete reflection of his lyrical talent? I don't see the appeal either dude smh Damn shame

Proof Drake has ghostwriters?

 

[Multiply]

Proof Drake has ghostwriters?

Where have you been this summer?

 

[Osmon]

He has catchy songs and that "I'm a cool *****" behaviour so that's what makes him popular.

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Herb>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Drake