My Muslim Friends Tell Me Islam Is About Peace and Love. Is this True?

[LogicnoJutsu]

why do most person's with name Logic makes some of the stupidest posts on base :|

Quran Surah 98:6 Those who reject among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire to dwell therein, for they are the worst of creatures.

Shots fired

Surah 98:7 And they who have believed and done righteous deeds, those are the best of creatures.

Come join us

Surah 8:55 For the worst of BEASTS in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him, They will not believe

Surah 8:56 They are those with whom thou didst make a covenant, but they break their covenant every time, and they have not the fear of Allah.

Surah 8:57 If thou come upon them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, then perhaps they may remember.

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[BLAZE]

Shots fired

So you think i am a Muslim :lol

Is this a smart enough post for you? Im sure you can read?

Hmmm a post without any link to support it let alone valid link with valid translation is like farting in Air while acting like you have made a name for yourself :|

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

The shots fired was not directed at you, i was saying the Quran quote in itself is a "shots fired" at Non muslims, learn to read.

Much like how the "come join us" was directed at the next quote.

And lmao so you have indeed never picked up the Quran and yet are trying to defend it.

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[BLAZE]

And lmao so you have indeed never picked up the Quran and yet are trying to defend it.

and like you have lifted it :lol
but unlike you i am gonna ask my friends about those Quotes becoz i don't know how much the site you linked to is valid :lol

 

[Multiply]

If you are blaming Islam for the actions of ISIS, then you must blame Christianity for the actions of Nazis and the KKK.

 

[Tobi98]

Isis are violent Wahhabis, who are extreme Salafis, who are ulthraorthodox Sunnis

So like not saying Islam is about peace and love cuz I never read the Quran and/or the Hadiths but we shouldn't base all of Islam around what a small part of a part of a part of a part of Islam does

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

If you are blaming Islam for the actions of ISIS, then you must blame Christianity for the actions of Nazis and the KKK.

What did christianity have anything to do with Nazis? They weren't Christian Germans vs Jews

However yes Chritianity played a big role in KKK motivations as well as the Crusades and dark ages, they are equally as guilty. All religion should be abolished because no one can handle it when someone says otherwise.

 

[Tobi98]

If you are blaming Islam for the actions of ISIS, then you must blame Christianity for the actions of Nazis and the KKK.

Hitler's motivation wasn't really religious doe, KKK kinda works I guess

 

[Pride]

I know every religion has its extremists or might have or may, but why does most of all the terrorist attacker be muslim or affliated with the religon of islam?

 

[chopstickchakra]

Quran Surah 98:6 Those who reject among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire to dwell therein, for they are the worst of creatures
Surah 98:7 And they who have believed and done righteous deeds, those are the best of creatures.

The Bible says the same thing, Those who don't believe go to hell those who do and are good people find salvation.

Surah 8:55 For the worst of BEASTS in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him, They will not believe

Surah 8:56 They are those with whom thou didst make a covenant, but they break their covenant every time, and they have not the fear of Allah.

Surah 8:57 If thou come upon them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, then perhaps they may remember.

Is this a smart enough post for you? Im sure you can read?

The old testament says stuff just like that.

 

[Tobi98]

I know every religion has its extremists or might have or may, but why does most of all the terrorist attacker be muslim or affliated with the religon of islam?

Islamic world ain't secular

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

The Bible says the same thing, Those who don't believe go to hell those who do and are good people find salvation.



The old testament says stuff just like that.

I know, Religion should be abolished.

Are you trying to say That these verses are morally ok with you?

 

[Dark Sonic]

Watch this video.

Spoiler

[video=youtube;PzusSqcotDw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzusSqcotDw[/video]

I think all there is to be said about that is said in it.

I remember this video. Maher should stick with comedy.

 

[Dark Sonic]

From my understanding it is supposed to be so, but ultimately what you feel it is is left to you to decide.

ISIS are not extremists they are those who interpret the faith differently, calling them extremists seems to suggest they practice the faith more thoroughly than those who don't behave as they do.

The way the media uses the terms is wrong and gives a false picture.

The definition of Propaganda

 

[King Kendrick]

Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, *** and a gluttonous paradise as incentives. He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle. Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

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Quran (40:71-72) - When the fetters and the chains shall be on their necks; they shall be dragged Into boiling water, then in the fire shall they be burned

Quran (22:19-21) - But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads; Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron

Quran (4:56) - Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise

Quran (56:92-94) - But if he is of the rejecters, the erring, then the welcome will be boiling water and roasting at hell-fire


As to what regard Muslims are to show for those who don't believe, the Quran says to be ruthless toward them, since they are going to Hell anyway:

Quran (9:73) - O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination


Quran (66:9) - O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end.

Quran (8:55) - Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve
Quran (9:30) - And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah... Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!

Quran (4:52) - Those (Christians) are they whom Allah hath cursed...

Quran (4:47) - O you (Jews) who have been given the Book! believe that which We have revealed, verifying what you have, before We alter faces then turn them on their backs, or curse them as We cursed the violaters of the Sabbath, and the command of Allah shall be executed.

Quran (5:59-60) - This verse begets the infamous belief on the part of some Muslims that Jews are descended from swine and apes, since it says that wicked Jews (at least) were transformed by Allah in the past. (See also 2:64)

 

[Dark Sonic]

I'm no religious scholar or expert, but I'm more than enough educated to know about what's right and what's wrong, and what something implies. Google is not the only source of education, please. And it isn't the most reliable of the bunch either. I've educated myself from more reliable sources.

And I won't even bother about asking ex-Muslims. Already done this, and their response is the same revolving around misinterpretation and lack of understanding like you. Plus, I can refer you to the exes of all religions or even ex-atheists if you want. So are you going to comply with what they say?

Plus, why don't YOU talk to people who converted to Islam, who are mostly women (to your surprise). And the conversion rate to Islam is the highest in the world, and it's growing rapidly here in USA and all around the world. That shows that Islam is a religion of hate and violence, right? Most of the conversions are women, and yet Islam tortures women, right? Why don't you consider talking to those women that what they found in Islam that they're converting in such huge numbers? Or they just want to get tortured? :lol

And you already don't know the context of many things stated in the Quran. And even then, translations are not enough to understand the Quran. That's why several scholars have written down the explanation of the verses (Tafseer) for true and actual understanding. That's more important. Even Muslims who have a lot of knowledge about context and implication can't fully understand the Quran without reliable explanation. Plus, the Quran doesn't even have the full details. For that you've to refer to "Hadith".

You'll only find an anti-peaceful verse in Quran if you don't understand it or you're deliberately trying to find errors there. And dude, I'm Muslim, so I don't need to buy the Quran. Already have it.

Exactly. What's the point of claiming Islam as violent and bringing "evidence" by bringing ayahs (sentences) that sound "violent"?

 

[TheAncientJinchuuriki]

Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, had people killed for insulting him or for criticizing his religion. This included women. Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

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Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, *** and a gluttonous paradise as incentives. He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle. Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

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Quran (40:71-72) - When the fetters and the chains shall be on their necks; they shall be dragged Into boiling water, then in the fire shall they be burned

Quran (22:19-21) - But as for those who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them; boiling fluid will be poured down on their heads; Whereby that which is in their bellies, and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of iron

Quran (4:56) - Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment Lo! Allah is ever Mighty, Wise

Quran (56:92-94) - But if he is of the rejecters, the erring, then the welcome will be boiling water and roasting at hell-fire


As to what regard Muslims are to show for those who don't believe, the Quran says to be ruthless toward them, since they are going to Hell anyway:

Quran (9:73) - O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination


Quran (66:9) - O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end.

Quran (8:55) - Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve
Quran (9:30) - And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah... Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!

Quran (4:52) - Those (Christians) are they whom Allah hath cursed...

Quran (4:47) - O you (Jews) who have been given the Book! believe that which We have revealed, verifying what you have, before We alter faces then turn them on their backs, or curse them as We cursed the violaters of the Sabbath, and the command of Allah shall be executed.

Quran (5:59-60) - This verse begets the infamous belief on the part of some Muslims that Jews are descended from swine and apes, since it says that wicked Jews (at least) were transformed by Allah in the past. (See also 2:64)

Might as well put all mentions of Hell from the Bible while you're at it.

Ot: that's not even a credible source

 

[Dark Sonic]

Might as well put all mentions of Hell from the Bible while you're at it.

Ot: that's not even a credible source

I feel you on that. I found one link for Surah 40 (Ghafir) but I feel like this isn't enough for the Surah.

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Quran Surah 98:6 Those who reject among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire to dwell therein, for they are the worst of creatures.

Shots fired

Surah 98:7 And they who have believed and done righteous deeds, those are the best of creatures.

Come join us

Surah 8:55 For the worst of BEASTS in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him, They will not believe

Surah 8:56 They are those with whom thou didst make a covenant, but they break their covenant every time, and they have not the fear of Allah.

Surah 8:57 If thou come upon them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, then perhaps they may remember.

Is this a smart enough post for you? Im sure you can read?

At least try to find the meanings behind the verses...

Surah 98:7 And they who have believed and done righteous deeds, those are the best of creatures.

Come join us

Surah 98:7. "And they who have believed and done righteous deeds, those are the best of creatures".

Spoiler

In chapter 95, At-Tin (The Fig), we were told that man was created fi ahsani taqwim (in the best make) but if he does not believe in Allah and does not do good deeds then he becomes asfala safilin (the lowest of the low). On the other hand, if he has faith in Allah and follows it up with righteous actions, then he rises to the rank of the best of creation. This latter point is repeated in this verse, Those who believe and do good, they are the best of creatures, that is, those who believe and do good are the noblest of Allah's creatures.

At this juncture, there is a subtle point worthy of notice: One can observe that there is a resemblance between the preceding verse, Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and the idolaters will be in the Fire of Hell, abiding therein. They are the worst of creatures, and this one, Those who believe and do good, they are the best of creatures. In the former verse, the deniers of the clear evidence are mentioned as the worst of creatures and in the latter verse, those who accepted the clear evidence are called the best of creatures. But what is important here is that before naming the rejecters as the worst of creatures, the verse describes the punishment they will receive as a result of their denial, whilst in the next verse, the acceptors of the truth are referred to as the best of creatures, but their reward is not spoken of in this verse. In fact, their recompense is described in the verses that follow and we may very well ask why this is so.

The difference is this: when the punishment of an unbeliever becomes public, only then do people realise that he is one of the worst of creatures. Before this exposure, most times people do not have the slightest intimation of the character of the wrong-doer. For example, many officers of high rank and standing in the society happen to be dishonest, but no one knows. However, when their dishonesty is disclosed and punishment is meted out to them, then they lose their erstwhile honour and prestige, and their true station of the worst of creatures comes into full view.

Therefore, to establish the fact that the unbelievers are the worst of creatures, it is important to make known the result of their actions. That is why the punishment for their wrong-doing is mentioned first and then their position of the worst of creatures is expressed.

However, in contrast to them, the believers and doers of good, that is, the truly righteous ones, begin to be noticed by all as the best of people by reason of their good deeds, and there is no need to wait for the consequences of their actions to confirm their high standing. That is why only their belief and good works are mentioned and straightaway they are named as the best of creatures. In other words, a believer who is a doer of good deeds is quintessentially one of the best of Allah's creatures regardless of whether the results of his belief and actions are known to people or not. That is because faith and good deeds are so intrinsically pure qualities that those who choose that path in life are sure to become the most illustrious of Allah's creation. This, in itself, is a glorious thing, but that is not the end of the matter, for their Lord has in store for them a more honourable reward.

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Since you brought up Surah Al-Anfal, the explanations are behind this:

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[Yubel]

Action speak louder than words.

 

[Cabbage]

Might as well put all mentions of Hell from the Bible while you're at it.

Ot: that's not even a credible source

I presume you meant the first source of answering-islam.org, as the other one seems incredibly valid to me :/.