[Discussion] Is God a mystery or a man?

[Izou Xaxa]

First of all God is absolute no offense but even asking too much is kinda rude of you because there is no chance to reach God

He is mysterious
and for people who believe that no God is no human and that is absolutely confirmed

A human can never be a God and i hate people who worship persons as Gods

God is the Knowledge of everything and the truth and only the ones that truly believe in God will feel him

God is allmighty so in fact everything that exists on Earth no matter how far it reaches it can never be God because God never trained or eveolved
God is allmighty and that is absolute

People that wanna find him or investigate can search their whole lifes but they will never find or beat him

God is untouchable for humanity so just belive in him and dont question his existence too much

Questioning God too much is kinda making me sick

God created humans for the sake of fighting through life so he is not gonna protect someone from everything

That is what i think..

 

[TenseiganFTW]

In the bible it says God created man in his image and in his likeness. Also in the Quran God says he would come to man in his skin or something in that manner. Then he basically says of I'm coming to man why would I come in the form of an angel? Why episode he come in the form of anything other than a man? That would just spark confusion and misunderstanding. God presented himself to us as a man. And even angels are people just different type of people. I could be an Angel and even you can be an angel. Can can send anyone as an angel

There is not a single verse in Qur'an that says that.
If you can prove me wrong i swear to god I'm going to punch myself.

 

[BrillyMac]

First of all God is absolute no offense but even asking too much is kinda rude of you because there is no chance to reach God

He is mysterious
and for people who believe that no God is no human and that is absolutely confirmed

A human can never be a God and i hate people who worship persons as Gods

God is the Knowledge of everything and the truth and only the ones that truly believe in God will feel him

God is allmighty so in fact everything that exists on Earth no matter how far it reaches it can never be God because God never trained or eveolved
God is allmighty and that is absolute

People that wanna find him or investigate can search their whole lifes but they will never find or beat him

God is untouchable for humanity so just belive in him and dont question his existence too much

Questioning God too much is kinda making me sick

God created humans for the sake of fighting through life so he is not gonna protect someone from everything

That is what i think..

God wants you to ask him questions. That's in so many scriptures.
I agree with you except for the fact that you said God can't be a man. You then contradicted yourself by saying God is trith and knowledge and then said only people who believe in him can feel him. God is like electricity. Our bodies out his conductors. This is what I believe. The knowledge and wisdom of God will always be here but it will always need a conductor

 

[Gerkak]

Not really, there's a lot of evidence for evolution and natural selection

Ho?

Ok first question, how did the first living organism come about? What is the mechanism that causes what we call life? Darwin claimed that there existed an unconscious mechanism that gave life to inanimate matter. So where is this mechanism? Has it ever been observed or measured? For something to be scientifically proven it must be observable and measurable there are no exceptions, if it can't then it isn't fact and there fore there is no evidence to support it.

Of course modern day evolutionists may have an alternative explanation to darwin but can they answer my first question?

Second comes natural selection, what is it that determines when something evolves, how long it takes to do so and finally if it evolves at all. Examples are it took man according to the theory 1 million years to go from ape to apeman and apeman became man 200,000 years ago give or take. Technically using this we should have at least been a fifth different from when we first became humans but we aren't. Also some animals stop evolving and die out e.g Daedon which was said to evolve from the entelodont to survive harsher conditions, what made it stop evolving?

What is the mechanism that decides evolution it isn't an organ or even a cell, it just happens since it can't be identified, measured or observed then it isn't scientific fact thus there is no proof. Without an explanation for my questions there is no way to say for sure if evolution and natural selection took place I could just say aliens were responsible.

The continuous belief in this without evidence is based on faith alone just as religion is.

 

[BrillyMac]

There is not a single verse in Qur'an that says that.
If you can prove me wrong i swear to god I'm going to punch myself.

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Here you go. Here's the verse

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[HENI]

We all possess powers of God.

 

[BrillyMac]

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So much fallacy my brain can't handle it.

So you don't believe that human beings are gods with little g's and have a potential to be gids with big G's?

 

[ANiMUS]

God is not a mystery. He is close to all those who draw to him and the trinity doctrine is not even scriptual.

Father=God Ps. 83:18
Jesus= God's son John 3:16
God is not a mystery that is just a lie that churches tell to get out of questions they don't know -Acts 17:27

God is a spirit and exists in heaven.John 4:24

This is all based on the Christian bible so take it for what u will. I am not up for a debate, but I just wanted to present my peace expose some lies and go.

I didn't read the entire OP so I don't really have place to debate any way

 

[TenseiganFTW]

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Here you go. Here's the verse

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Give me the verse...
You aee drunk...

 

[Tobi98]

Ho?

Ok first question, how did the first living organism come about? What is the mechanism that causes what we call life? Darwin claimed that there existed an unconscious mechanism that gave life to inanimate matter. So where is this mechanism? Has it ever been observed or measured? For something to be scientifically proven it must be observable and measurable there are no exceptions, if it can't then it isn't fact and there fore there is no evidence to support it.

Of course modern day evolutionists may have an alternative explanation to darwin but can they answer my first question?

Second comes natural selection, what is it that determines when something evolves, how long it takes to do so and finally if it evolves at all. Examples are it took man according to the theory 1 million years to go from ape to apeman and apeman became man 200,000 years ago give or take. Technically using this we should have at least been a fifth different from when we first became humans but we aren't. Also some animals stop evolving and die out e.g Daedon which was said to evolve from the entelodont to survive harsher conditions, what made it stop evolving?

What is the mechanism that decides evolution it isn't an organ or even a cell, it just happens since it can't be identified, measured or observed then it isn't scientific fact thus there is no proof. Without an explanation for my questions there is no way to say for sure if evolution and natural selection took place I could just say aliens were responsible.

The continuous belief in this without evidence is based on faith alone just as religion is.

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2. Natural selection happens through random mutations

And btw it didn't go from ape to apeman and to ape, humans and apes come from an common ancestor

I'm not a biologist, reading some articles you'd get the answers real quick and much better explained

 

[BrillyMac]

God is not a mystery. He is close to all those who draw to him and the trinity doctrine is not even scriptual.

Father=God Ps. 83:18
Jesus= God's son John 3:16
God is not a mystery that is just a lie that churches tell to get out of questions they don't know -Acts 17:27

God is a spirit and exists in heaven.John 4:24

This is all based on the Christian bible so take it for what u will. I am not up for a debate, but I just wanted to present my peace and go

I'll say what I said a couple of times, God is like electricity. Which is what the spirit part means. Spirit has no purpose of it has no material form to manifest itself just like electricity is nothing without having something to manifest itself in. And the heaven it refers to is a point in life. Of course you would be in spiritual heaven when you reach God and allow him to make you into himself

Give me the verse...
You aee drunk...

17:95 and in that area. The verse was on the link. But you can go read for yourself

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

Why Christianity turned me off was because it's too complicated. Why would God have to do all of that to prove it's existence to its creations? Not only that, but then leave all these questions of it's legitimacy for people to argue over.

If anything it's proven to me that God creates things that are simple, but profound. Like water is such a simple thing, but it serves all of these purposes, it's literally two elements. Or like the sun, it seems like just a ball of fire floating in space, but it accomplishes so much. Or even life and how things come into existence, it's mostly a simple process but it reaps all of these possibilities and circumstances that could possibly affect the world greatly.

Just my thoughts though, not trying to debate.

 

[Gerkak]

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Natural selection happens through random mutations

And btw it didn't go from ape to apeman and to ape, humans and apes come from an common ancestor

Random mutations? Please these are all assumptions has this ever been observed and measured in a lab? If there is proof scientists should be able to make life in a lab. The fact they haven't means there is no proof and as such this is still no more than a theory.

Also mutations have never produced positive results, just take a look at albinism which is a naturally occurring mutation.

Yes humans may have shared a common ancestor but the ape came first no?

 

[BrillyMac]

You just gave me 2 chapters...
There is not a single verse which says that.
You are a christian cause christians say"God created us in his image" .
There is not a single verse which says that.
You are just wrong
I'm waiting...

You obviously didn't read the first link which gave one chapter and verse in multiple different translations

Why Christianity turned me off was because it's too complicated. Why would God have to do all of that to prove it's existence to its creations? Not only that, but then leave all these questions of it's legitimacy for people to argue over.

If anything it's proven to me that God creates things that are simple, but profound. Like water is such a simple thing, but it serves all of these purposes, it's literally two elements. Or like the sun, it seems like just a ball of fire floating in space, but it accomplishes so much. Or even life and how things come into existence, it's mostly a simple process but it reaps all of these possibilities and circumstances that could possibly affect the world greatly.

Just my thoughts though, not trying to debate.

Agreed. But God doesn't need to do anything complicated to prove his existence. The entire universe speaks for him. God is God because he did the impossible which is creating himself when there was nothing. That's what makes him God. He eliminated impossibilities when he created himself.

 

[ANiMUS]

I'll say what I said a couple of times, God is like electricity. Which is what the spirit part means. Spirit has no purpose of it has no material form to manifest itself just like electricity is nothing without having something to manifest itself in. And the heaven it refers to is a point in life. Of course you would be in spiritual heaven when you reach God and allow him to make you into himself



17:95 and in that area. The verse was on the link. But you can go read for yourself

Actually heaven is not a place ppl go when they die. Ecc. 9:5

When ppl die they simply cease to function though there are a few that are reborn as angels.

As for what angels are made of if u r relating it to our physical realm then there is no way one can know what they r composed of.

Human beings themselves are made in god's image though.

 

[TenseiganFTW]

I'll say what I said a couple of times, God is like electricity. Which is what the spirit part means. Spirit has no purpose of it has no material form to manifest itself just like electricity is nothing without having something to manifest itself in. And the heaven it refers to is a point in life. Of course you would be in spiritual heaven when you reach God and allow him to make you into himself



17:95 and in that area. The verse was on the link. But you can go read for yourself

An Angel as a messenger.
Angels can take form of Human.
But if it comes to God...
Qur'an opposes that.
You are not a muslim if you believe in this way.
Also whoever tells a lie about Allah intentionally his place will be hellfire.
If you continue to believe god is like electricity then you are a close to get a ticket to hell.
God would never take the form of a human,God can do anything but he wont take it...
Cause if he become a man then he is a perfect and imperfect being at the same time and this makes no sense.

 

[LordRaikage]

God is fiction to me.

awe you're so special.

 

[BrillyMac]

Actually heaven is not a place ppl go when they die. Ecc. 9:5

When ppl die they simply cease to function though there are a few that are reborn as angels.

As for what angels are made of if u r relating it to our physical realm then there is no way one can know what they r composed of.

Human beings themselves are made in god's image though.

That's what I was saying lol. Heaven is a certain state of mind. It's being able to see your daughter smile. It's being able to laugh with your wife etc. there is no such thing as life after death. No one has ever come back from the dead and proved otherwise. And yes, we are made in Gods image and likeness which means he has to be a man.

An Angel as a messenger.
Angels can take form of Human.
But if it comes to God...
Qur'an opposes that.
You are not a muslim if you believe in this way.
Also whoever tells a lie about Allah intentionally his place will be hellfire.
If you continue to believe god is like electricity then you are a close to get a ticket to hell.

That my sir, is what I call believing in a spook/ mystery god. Also, a real Muslim believes In all the scriptures if God. A real Muslim believes in the truth. A real Muslim believes in all the scriptures brought to us. God did not just send Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). God sent al the prophets. Taking the bible without taking the Quran is like taking the iPhone 3 and ignoring the 5 and vise versa. Prophets come at different times with different messages. But all prophets come from God. You have not studied the Quran great enough to know these things. You cannot take one prophet or scripture and shoot down the other. That's just plain ignorant.

 

[ANiMUS]

That's what I was saying lol. Heaven is a certain state of mind. It's being able to see your daughter smile. It's being able to laugh with your wife etc. there is no such thing as life after death. No one has ever come back from the dead and proved otherwise. And yes, we are made in Gods image and likeness which means he has to be a man.

Heaven isn't a state of mind...well not in Christianity. U can call your happy place heaven if u want though.

Also being in god's image doesn't mean physically. We have a similar mental make up

Similar=/=same

God>>> man

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

YAgreed. But God doesn't need to do anything complicated to prove his existence. The entire universe speaks for him. God is God because he did the impossible which is creating himself when there was nothing. That's what makes him God. He eliminated impossibilities when he created himself.

But if you're talking about the source of all things, it would have to always have been. But that's not something we can conceptualize because we only know of things coming into existence from another.

But yeah that's where my brain starts to hurt and I stop thinking about it.