When did Naruto start to go downhill?

[RedRobin]

^This

The arcs after like the Kage Summit weren't shit, but you could tell that it wasn't on par with the past arcs. Bit by bit it was becoming worse and worse. It almost seemed that Kishimoto didn't even know what to do at times, his writing felt very awkward and bland.

I equate how good Naruto is to the fighting in that arc. Kage summit had amazing battles so I dont see it far off from the pain arc. Obviously the pain arc was set on a bigger scale which makes it overall seems better.

 

[Brooks]

When was Naruto only about ninjas when Kishimoto made it clear about the Kyuubi tails alone destroying mountains in the first chapter? You people seem to have this idea that you created (in your heads) of what Naruto is suppose to be when it's no where near the original product.

 

[Dark Sonic]

Agreed. Part 2 sucked.

Practically DBZ especially that Naruto vs Kaguya. Goku vs Frieza lol

 

[Gerkak]

Early Shippuden, it got better during the pain arc but right after it got worse than it had ever been and it kept getting worse

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Practically DBZ especially that Naruto vs Kaguya. Goku vs Frieza lol

DBZ had its own issues while Naruto did its own. I used to be a big fan of Naruto thinking it would be a little different than DBZ but sadly I was mistaken. They both suffer from the same power abuse syndrome. Naruto did with Senju and Uchiha what DBZ did with the sayains. In the end the power scaling went off the charts. Making it seem like only one brand of power was superior to the rest. This sort of thing destroys a anime very fast in my opinion.

 

[Pyro NB]

After the Zabuza saga for me

Thats hella early

 

[Joon]

^This

The arcs after like the Kage Summit weren't shit, but you could tell that it wasn't on par with the past arcs. Bit by bit it was becoming worse and worse. It almost seemed that Kishimoto didn't even know what to do at times, his writing felt very awkward and bland.

Everything was controlled by Kish's editor so go figure.:sdo:

 

[Cyber]

Pedobito when he took the mask off

 

[Dantee]

After Sasuke vs Diedara.

 

[Son of Zabuza]

Thats hella early

I know but I feel like that saga felt the most "ninja" out of all other arcs if that makes sense to you

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

I know but I feel like that saga felt the most "ninja" out of all other arcs if that makes sense to you

Chunin exams arc was the most ninja to me.

 

[Joon]

Chunin exams arc was the most ninja to me.

It was all of Part 1 imo.

 

[Pyro NB]

I know but I feel like that saga felt the most "ninja" out of all other arcs if that makes sense to you

I understand

 

[Son of Zabuza]

In the Zabuza saga, Zabuza showed us that the shinobi world was cruel and dark, children are used as tool, etc. Plus, it had lots of strategy, stealth, and suspense. Do you not agree with me?

 

[UchihaKira]

Id say it was with the whole Kaguya reveal/Black Zetsus infamous 1shot. I see quite a few saying it was the Obito reveal for them. As much as I was completely against Tobi being Obito, I actually really liked how it was handled. Obitos descent to hell is one of my favorite parts of the series. I actually didnt mind Naruto/Sasukes godlike powers to match Madaras, considering it was supposed to be a limited kind of thing. The only godlike powerup that literally made me wtf out loud was DMS perfect susanoo Kakashi out of Fing nowhere. I pretty much despised the whole Kaguya/Ootsutsuki story though. Especially what theyve done to expand on it in the movies. Madara wouldve been a much better final villain imo.

 

[UchihaKira]

It was all of Part 1 imo.

Agreed, part 2 is when they started to really shy away from the ninja aspect of the series.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

After the Obito reveal. Shit just kept dragging.

 

[iAmSoulNuke]

After pain arc

 

[iKaras]

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This is the page when the manga tripped off the top of the hill despite Madara's best efforts to hold down the arc for Tobi.

 

[Fountain]

After the plot war >.> and the filler madness.