I feel sorry for Sakura & Tsunade

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Jean that's not a feat. whole shinobi alliance saw madara cuting white zetsu hand and attached it with his body.
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they copied Madara:p
So I suppose the whole ninja world can do the same just like that. Or did you forget that Zetsu cells can turn you into tree without Hashi's cells to control it or that Hashirama could heal himself instantly and Madara has stolen his abilities and could replicate it because of that whether it was instant eye transplant or hand?

that's why i never want to go on that discussion(what is a sakura fan?).
Yet you have no problem in to starting it and persisting on it.
 
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So I suppose the whole ninja one can do the same just like that. Or did you forget that Zetsu cells can turn you into tree without Hashi's cells or that Hashirama could heal himself instantly and Madara has stolen his ability?
@bold wait where was it said?
and they got advanced technology now.
with a simple gadget bolt was able to use 3types of elements. who knows how much NV has advanced now?
 

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@bold wait where was it said?
and they got advanced technology now.
with a simple gadget bolt was able to use 3types of elements. who knows how much NV has advanced now?
Did you miss Danzou's fight with Sasuke where his hand started to turn in to tree when he lost control and again in chapter 692:
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And exactly what's point of the rest of the post? They could always use help of scroll etc for extra elements. ( Shikamru summoned water while fighting Hidan and Kakuzu). So?
 
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Did you miss Danzou's fight with Sasuke where his hand started to turn in to tree when he lost control and again in chapter 692:
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And exactly what's point of the rest of the post? They could always use help of scroll etc for extra elements. ( Shikamru summoned water while fighting Hidan and Kakuzu). So?
note:Zetsu cells cant turn u into tree
what are u saying danzou only had hashi dna.(if i remember properly) he didnot have zetsu parts.
when danzo's hand started becoming tree obito said it is hard to control hashi's dna, he never said it is hard to control zetsu parts.
even i will say obito's words were BS. Obito, Madara and orochimaru all had hashi's dna and none of them became tree not even after dead. so what does that prove?
and that scan shows white zetsu dying and becoming a tree.
and what all this has to do with sakura-tsunade and naruto's arm?
 
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note:Zetsu cells cant turn u into tree
what are u saying danzou only had hashi dna.(if i remember properly) he didnot have zetsu parts.
when danzo's hand started becoming tree obito said it is hard to control hashi's dna, he never said it is hard to control zetsu parts.
even i will say obito's words were bs. Obito, Madara and orochimaru all had hashi's dna and none of them became tree not even after dead. so what does that prove?
and that scan shows white zetsu dying and becoming a tree.
Isn't the dna Of Zetsu identical to Hashi and fused with it? Obito turned to ash. Oro is still alive. And if you think Obtio's statement is BS then of course... I guess we can rely on your word more than the manga...
 
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Isn't the dna Of Zetsu identical to Hashi and fused with it? Obito turned to ash. Oro is still alive. And if you think Obtio's statement is BS then of course... I guess we can rely on your word more than the manga...
i was saying when obito died first time when kaguya came out of madara.
madara is also dead. he didnot turn into a tree.

and yes Obito's words were BS. Obito, Madara, Orochimaru all survived with hashi dna(none of them became tree).Even Momoshiki didnot became a tree. He also had wood Jutsu.
and u still didnot explained what this has to do with sakura/tsunade and naruto's arm

I guess we can rely on your word more than the manga...
Seriously is this suppose to be an insult.
Manga said Sharingan evolved from Byakugan. But it never evolved from Byakugan.
Manga said u need to kill your best friend to unlock MS. Sasuke & Itachi didnot killed there best friend.
I can write more but now I m feeling tired. So I m done for today. I suppose your crazy hashirama theory ends here.
 
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i was saying when obito died first time when kaguya came out of madara.
madara is also dead. he didnot turn into a tree.

and yes Obito's words were BS. Obito, Madara, Orochimaru all survived with hashi dna(none of them became tree).Even Momoshiki didnot became a tree. He also had wood Jutsu.
and u still didnot explained what this has to do with sakura/tsunade and naruto's arm
You are either counting Sage's relative or Oro who never died. Obito was Uchiha and he wasn't dead yet. I doubt Naruto could revive a person who was truly dead, only a dying person.

You were the one to claim that since Madara could attach Zetsu's arm, adding one to another person had nothing to do with medic ability. And then you jumped to Boruto being able to use 3 elements.. god knows what you are arguing for , I certainly don't know.
Seriously is this suppose to be an insult.
So you get so easily insulted for saying that you are giving more stress to your interpretation that something stated in the manga- but you were just fine calling me a typical Sakura fan which you explained meant retarded troll in subsequent post... funny.
Manga said Sharingan evolved from Byakugan. But it never evolved from Byakugan.

Manga said u need to kill your best friend to unlock MS. Sasuke & Itachi didnot killed there best friend.
I can write more but now I m feeling tired. So I m done for today. I suppose your crazy hashirama theory ends here.
OK... sure it got something to do with Sakua being medic I suppose. And nope manga said it came from Bayakugan. Well it did came from Kaguya the bayakugan eye owner and her sons.. Rest of the history was lost anyway. MS is awakened with a similar severe shock isn't it? In each and every case they did watch or had a part just before the death of a close person. In Naruto narratives change slightly depending on perspectives- people form Mist village said Sasuke killed Zabuza when he had only a part in his ultimate death. So?
You can keep on writing. So if you want to tire yourself out be my guest. However I'm not changing my view. That's the fun part with interpretations. :lawliet:
 
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You are either counting Sage's relative or Oro who never died. Obito was Uchiha and he wasn't dead yet. I doubt Naruto could revive a person who was truly dead, only a dying person.

You were the one to claim that since Madara could attach Zetsu's arm, adding one to another person had nothing to do with medic ability. And then you jumped to Boruto being able to use 3 elements.. god knows what you are arguing for , I certainly don't know.


So you get so easily insulted for saying that you are giving more stress to your interpretation that something stated in the manga- but you were just fine calling me a typical Sakura fan which you explained meant retarded troll in subsequent post... funny.


OK... sure it got something to do with Sakua being medic I suppose. And nope manga said it came from Bayakugan. Well it did came from Kaguya the bayakugan eye owner and her sons.. Rest of the history was lost anyway. MS is awakened with a similar severe shock isn't it? In each and every case they did watch or had a part just before the death of a close person. In Naruto narratives change slightly depending on perspectives- people form Mist village said Sasuke killed Zabuza when he had only a part in his ultimate death. So?
You can keep on writing. So if you want to tire yourself out be my guest. However I'm not changing my view. That's the fun part with interpretations. :lawliet:
Firstly about boruto topic.
I raised it because Sakura and Tsunade have no expertise in Hashi dna. They must have ask help from the guy who created that device shown in the movie or must have asked from Orochimaru who has more knowledge working with hashi dna. sakura and tsunade might have attached that artificial hand with Naruto's body. i m sure they didnot created it.
secondly U serious?
The Outer Path — Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique or Rinne tensei is a reincarnation ninjutsu used through the Outer Path, which can infuse new life into the bodies of those who have died in exchange for the user's own life
Obito gave his life to Madara. black zetsu was the only reason he was alive. it was already told in manga. obito died when Madara went to Kamuiland and BZ seperated himself from him.
Narujesus gave his life back via his seal(or whatever power he had in his hand).
rest of the thing u wrote is fanfic
Hagoromo only had rinnegan. His eldest son possessed sharingan. Byakugan went to hamura's lineage. byakugan can only evolve into tenseigan(shown in naruto the last)
About the MS part it was clearly mentioned that u have to kill your best friend to awaken MS. This was another lie Itachi said to Sasuke. it was never mentioned that your tomoe sharingan will become MS if u watch someone die.(if i remember properly)

Now i gave u 2 scans today:
1)Kakashi's one
Where i meant to say Naruto was better than sakura because he can make new organs(kakashi eye), give life to someone(obito) and heal immediately(gai).
it was you who changed the topic and said sakura was needed to stop bleeding and make new arms etc.
2)My 2nd scan showed Madara cutting the arm of WZ and attaching it with his body
Here i meant to say it was not sakura/tsunades who created a new technology and gave naruto a new hand. they must have saw what madara did and tried to copy that.
u again changed the topic that WZ cells turns u into tree, gave bad scans(where WZ turned into a tree) and not accepting manga facts that obito died etc.
And then u say i should read manga again.
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Seriously Minamoto's Tobidara threads has more evidence then your hashi dna logic.:lmao:
 
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Firstly about boruto topic.
I raised it because Sakura and Tsunade have no expertise in Hashi dna. They must have ask help from the guy who created that device shown in the movie or must have asked from Orochimaru who has more knowledge working with hashi dna. sakura and tsunade might have attached that artificial hand with Naruto's body. i m sure they didnot created it.
secondly U serious?:

,,,,,Obito gave his life to Madara. black zetsu was the only reason he was alive. it was already told in manga. obito died when Madara went to Kamuiland and BZ seperated himself from him.
Narujesus gave his life back via his seal(or whatever power he had in his hand).
rest of the thing u wrote is fanfic,,,,,
"Must have asked" ? Because you think so or is the manga says so? Did it not declare Tsunade a good enough medic?

Before that you tried to use scan of Madara to tell us it's not a feat but she copied it. So now your theory is that she saw Madara doing it and then found some guy to ask how to do it?

So you make a bunch of assumptions making weird connection with Boruto who wasn't even born yet and back from death and still insist on arguing? Really? you are rejecting everything in the manga that doesn't fit your theories and yet you claim it to be a "fact".

I am not even the only who thinks that way seeing they agree with me at too. And you expect me to take you seriously? After making up a story of Tsunade not being the one to make hand for Naruto (something that was clearly stated in manga in direct words) you call other's of telling FF. Your personal bias is getting in the realm of ridiculous.

PS: And when did I ask you to read the manga again? Did you just make that up to0?
 
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I know you probably had hot thread in mind when making this, but Naruto and Sasuke's power is unfair to a lot of characters if we follow that train of thought.
 

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"Must have asked" ? Because you think so or is the manga says so? Did it not declare Tsunade a good enough medic?

So you make a bunch of assumptions making weird connection with Boruto who wasn't even born yet and back from death and still insist on arguing? Really? you are rejecting everything in the manga that doesn't fir your theories and yet you claim it to be a "fact".

I am not even the only who thinks that way seeing they agree with me at too. And you expect me to take you seriously? After making up a story of Tsunade not being the one to make hand for Naruto (something that was clearly stated in manga in direct words) you call other's of telling FF. Your personal bias is getting in the realm of ridiculous.
About tsunade thing I may be wrong.
2nd link there were only 2 replies and one of them thinks Obito is dead.and how could he revive Neji?His hand was destroyed in vote2. People also claim that after sealing kaguya those seals went back to sage. And manga said rinne tensei brings back dead and user loose his life. Plz explain where I m wrong to think Obito is dead? And yes your sharingan evolving from Byakugan and hashirama DNA theory is fanfic
U just don't want to agree that in war arc Naruto surpassed Sakura's medic skills.
He can create organs from nowhere and was a better healer then Sakura.
 
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About tsunade thing I may be wrong.
2nd link there were only 2 replies and one of them thinks Obito is dead.and how could he revive Neji?His hand was destroyed in vote2. People also claim that after sealing kaguya those seals went back to sage. And manga said rinne tensei brings back dead and user loose his life. Plz explain where I m wrong to think Obito is dead? And yes your sharingan evolving from Byakugan and hashirama DNA theory is fanfic.
Nope the second guy was replying how Neji could be revived in that second comment and in that context the person replied Obito lost rinne and died and Sasuke is the only person with rinne now.. And the first link as well as second one both maintain thay Obito was not dead yet. You are grabbing at the straw denying that. Seeing you chose to ignore even the obvious...

Also, no one said sharingan "evolved" from bayakugan. Neither the manga nor me. You are a master at misreading. "Came out from" indicates some link/connection and that's all. Kakashi thought Sage of 6 Path to be a myth so clearly they didn't know the exact relation. Not that, that pointless argument is even relevant to the issue here.

But if you can make up me telling you to read the manga again...
 
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Nope the second guy was replying how Neji could be revived in that second comment and in that context the person replied Obito lost rinne and died and Sasuke is the only person with rinne now.. And the first link is about Obito directly and that too says he was not dead yet. You are grabbing at the straw.

Seeing you chose to ignore even the obvious. Also, no one said sharingan "evolved" from bayakugan. Neither the manga nor me. You are a master at misreading. "Came out from " indicates some link and that's all. Kakashi thought Sage of 6 Path to be a myth so clearly they didn't know the exact relation. Not that , that pointless argument is even relevant to the issue here.
What are u saying?
Kakashi said that in Chunin arc.
That's a different thing that he knows nothing about sharingan/Byakugan history.
And it's you who don't want to agree that war arc naruto surpassed sakura's medic skill. Naruto was able to create organs from nowhere. Sakura could never do that.
 

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May Naruto thank Rikudou for giving him his chakra and may he thank Kurama for that chakra and may he thank Tsunade of giving him that Hashirama DNA arm.


And yet despite being all that strong, they still can't touch Sakura in chakra control..

What are u saying?
Kakashi said that in Chunin arc.
That's a different thing that he knows nothing about sharingan/Byakugan history.
And it's you who don't want to agree that war arc naruto surpassed sakura's medic skill. Naruto was able to create organs from nowhere. Sakura could never do that.
He has no medic skills..



He can't perform surgeries, he can't take out poison, he can't make antidotes, he can't cut people up and try to make their heart beat continue..

Sorry but him even being close to Sakura's medical skills, is a freaking joke.
 
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May Naruto thank Rikudou for giving him his chakra and may he thank Kurama for that chakra and may he thank Tsunade of giving him that Hashirama DNA arm.


And yet despite being all that strong, they still can't touch Sakura in chakra control..



He has no medic skills..



He can't perform surgeries, he can't take out poison, he can't make antidotes, he can't cut people up and try to make their heart beat continue..

Sorry but him even being close to Sakura's medical skills, is a freaking joke.
Let's assume Obito was not dead in war arc.
It was Naruto who brought him back.
Poison thing I agree naruto has nothing on poison and surgeries. But he can make organs from nowhere. Can Sakura do that?
 

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What are u saying?
Kakashi said that in Chunin arc.
That's a different thing that he knows nothing about sharingan/Byakugan history.
And it's you who don't want to agree that war arc naruto surpassed sakura's medic skill. Naruto was able to create organs from nowhere. Sakura could never do that.
Everything that doesn't suit you is to be ignored...and then jump to some random new bit..

so.... Medic nin either use yin release or yang release. Naruto being MC got both and was able to use that somehow but he doesn't have extensive knowledge on such things as herbs, medicines, the human body or poisons. Not that I was comparing Sakura to Naruto. No idea why you bring that up or what you are trying to argue here. Even if Naruto retains that magical healing ability that doesn't mean Kabuto, Tusnade or Sakura are not needed anymore.

I wonder if you are going to add Itachi to medical nin list- he transplanted a sharingan in a crow or maybe Nagato who revived the whole village after killing them for real...:| I won't be surprised if you do.
 
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so.... Medic nin either use yin release or yang release. Naruto being MC got both and was able to use that somehow but he doesn't have extensive knowledge on such things as herbs, medicines, the human body or poisons. Not that I was comparing Sakura to Naruto. No idea why you bring that up or what you are trying to argue here.
So what if Sakura knows CR? can she create organs for others with the help of CR?
yes i m comparing sakura's healing with naruto's healing. Naruto was able to stabilise Guy's life-force, he revived obito. Whatever jutsu naruto used was far better then sakura's healing. :whip:

She is one of the best medics on the field and only Kabuto and Tsunade may challenge her for the crown.
chapter 649, sakura had trouble healing shikamaru, but tsunade just needed to touch his head and he was already healed,this means that sakura even with the diamond seal, is way below tsunade in terms of chakra and stamina. she never surpassed tsunade. she is the one who need to challenge tsunade for the crown:pick:

Even if Naruto retains that magical healing ability that doesn't mean Kabuto, Tusnade or Sakura are not needed anymore.
what does this has to do with our argument?:what:

Off topic:.
I am not even the only who thinks that way seeing they agree with me at too. And you expect me to take you seriously?
i can also give u proof that it is not only me but a lot of guys think obito died. problem is,it is in another forum site. and that thread had more than 2replies. u want the link?:bdpf:


I wonder if you are going to add Itachi to medical nin list- he transplanted a sharingan in a crow or maybe Nagato who revived the whole village after killing them for real...:| I won't be surprised if you do.
Eye transplantation is a medical ninjutsu. Basic medics like rin can perform it. go and read wiki if u donot believe me.

All uchihas were able to do this. it is no big feat shown in Naruto.
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Everything that doesn't suit you is to be ignored...and then jump to some random new bit..
U were the one who brought useless topics like Tsunade gave Naruto new hand, Hashi-zetsu cell theory, Danzou fight, WZ death scan and now Itachi and Nagato.:shy:
 
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So what if Sakura knows CR? can she create organs for others with the help of CR?
yes i m comparing sakura's healing with naruto's healing. Naruto was able to stabilise Guy's life-force, he revived obito. Whatever jutsu naruto used was far better then sakura's healing. :whip:


chapter 649, sakura had trouble healing shikamaru, but tsunade just needed to touch his head and he was already healed,this means that sakura even with the diamond seal, is way below tsunade in terms of chakra and stamina. she never surpassed tsunade. she is the one who need to challenge tsunade for the crown:pick:


what does this has to do with our argument?:what:

Off topic:.

i can also give u proof that it is not only me but a lot of guys think obito died. problem is,it is in another forum site. and that thread had more than 2replies. u want the link?:bdpf:



Eye transplantation is a medical ninjutsu. Basic medics like rin can perform it. go and read wiki if u donot believe me.

All uchihas were able to do this. it is no big feat shown in Naruto.
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U were the one who brought useless topics like Tsunade gave Naruto new hand, Hashi-zetsu cell theory, Danzou fight, WZ death scan and now Itachi and Nagato.:shy:
You are still at it?

Says the guy who had to take his word back on Tsunade and Obito already and is still having difficulty in digesting that Sakura has regeneration tech according to wiki. No wonder seeing you cannot even keep track of simple posts, keeping up with manga would have been a huge task. Go argue with people at Naruto wiki.
 

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You are still at it?

Says the guy who had to take his word back on Tsunade and Obito already and is still having difficulty in digesting that Sakura has regeneration tech according to wiki. No wonder seeing you cannot even keep track of simple posts, keeping up with manga would have been a huge task. Go argue with people at Naruto wiki.
when did i denied sakura has CR or not? i m only asking can sakura create organs for others like naruto did with kakashi?
and i still think obito died when kaguya was shown.
u didnot even read my above post. now i m not going to argue with u:sniff:
 
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