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You were also saying alive MS Madara>Edo Madara in strength and speed. smh

He does he got much faster and stronger when he was revived with rinne-tensei even Hashirama noted that so you keep sliding through giving your shitty 2 cents is worthless you ant.
 

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He does he got much faster and stronger when he was revived with rinne-tensei even Hashirama noted that so you keep sliding through giving your shitty 2 cents is worthless you ant.
Relax, jizz stain. Why are you angry? :lol
Madara was revived with Hashirama's cells and a little bit of Rikudo's chakra due to previously having rinnegan. So foh with giving MS feats from versions tiers above him.
 

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Why?
This is much stronger than that^

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Jinton works in a way that is completely different from Bijuu Dama. It disassembles molecules. BD doesn't.
 

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Why?
This is much stronger than that^ assuming Madara get the same V4 in this thread like EMS V4

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:lol jinton's mechanism's completely different than a tbb
And we're talking about MS Madara. People need to stop giving him his Edo and EMS feats.
 

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Jinton works in a way that is completely different from Bijuu Dama. It disassembles molecules. BD doesn't.

I know but nobody really knows if it could wreck his V4 Ohnoki only wrecked some Susanoo wood clones, so i just favoured Madara's Susanoo in this:p

:lol jinton's mechanism's completely different than a tbb
And we're talking about MS Madara. People need to stop giving him his Edo and EMS feats.

@bolded i already know i shouldnt compare EMS feats but nobody knows Madara's MS feats or even his MS jutsu's.
So i just gave his V4 EMS feats, if that's not possible then just nevermind the whole V4 thing, the whole Uchiha team would rape the Gokage
 

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Relax, jizz stain. Why are you angry? :lol
Madara was revived with Hashirama's cells and a little bit of Rikudo's chakra due to previously having rinnegan. So foh with giving MS feats from versions tiers above him.

Please explain how was he revived with Rikudou chakra? just stawp and im pretty sure having rikudou chakra would have made him much faster than that, Then add Hashirama was the slightest bit surprised at anything Madara did implying he was not boosted at all but these were his attributes when he was alive. Hashirama cells have zero effects on his speed so your post falls hard on its face. Danzo no faster,Obito no faster, Yamato no faster. I rest my case.

:) @ Super Jinton i could post Juubito's juubi dama firing off in everythread but whats the point when Majority of his opponents can stop it from ever happening.
 

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I know but nobody really knows if it could wreck his V4 he only wrecks some Susanoo wood clones, so i just favoured Madara in this:p



@bolded i already know i shouldnt compare EMS feats but nobody knows Madara's MS feats or even his MS jutsu's.
So i just gave his V4 EMS feats, if that's not possible then just nevermind the whole V4 thing, the whole Uchiha team would rape the Gokage

Yeah, I can kind of see your point. But I doubt it'd tank.
 

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Team Gokage high diff. It'll be tough getting MS Obito.
 

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Please explain how was he revived with Rikudou chakra? just stawp and im pretty sure having rikudou chakra would have made him much faster than that. Hashirama cells have zero effects on his speed so your post falls hard on its face. Danzo no faster,Obito no faster, Yamato no faster. I rest my case.
He was revived in the young version of his post rinnegan self. Rinnegan wasn't there, but the sage's chakra was still in his system.
Hashirama's cells clearly change you. Madara's body got stronger, so his base stats pretty much increased. But even if these points are wrong, don't even associate Madara's feats in forms tiers above his MS version. Sasuke went from keeping up with being barely able to keep up with raikage to being able to track jin Obito. Same change applies to Madara. You upgrade when you go from MS to EMS.
 

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He was revived in the young version of his post rinnegan self. Rinnegan wasn't there, but the sage's chakra was still in his system.

Makes no sense at all. He was revived to himself after rinnegan yet he did not have a real rinnegan? Your wrong as hell because if that was the case why would his edo body not have his rikudou chakra? he clearly keep the chakra he had from Hashirama even while he was edofied. Your clearly confused on what your talking about or at the very least grasping at straws.

Hashirama's cells clearly change you. Madara's body got stronger, so his base stats pretty much increased. But even if these points are wrong, don't even associate Madara's feats in forms tiers above his MS version. Sasuke went from keeping up with being barely able to keep up with raikage to being able to track jin Obito. Same change applies to Madara. You upgrade when you go from MS to EMS.

Madara body got no stronger from these cells stop with the fanfic. So wait Blind alive Madara is tiers above the exact same Madara who has a MS? Yea no. When Blind Sasuke shows he could keep up with the latter then you comparison holds water since blind Sasuke has not shown those feats your comparison is shitty. Commercial Break.
 

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Makes no sense at all. He was revived to himself after rinnegan yet he did not have a real rinnegan? Your wrong as hell because if that was the case why would his edo body not have his rikudou chakra? he clearly keep the chakra he had from Hashirama even while he was edofied. Your clearly confused on what your talking about or at the very least grasping at straws.
He was revived as his post rinnegan self. Meaning he was revived in the form right after he gave his rinnegans to Nagato, but in a younger body.

Madara body got no stronger from these cells stop with the fanfic. So wait Blind alive Madara is tiers above the exact same Madara who has a MS? Yea no. When Blind Sasuke shows he could keep up with the latter then you comparison holds water since blind Sasuke has not shown those feats your comparison is shitty. Commercial Break.
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It's fact that your body gets stronger with Hashirama's cells. You're the one using fanfic. Blind Madara is tiers above his MS self, yes. Stronger Susanoo, stronger body, and stronger chakra. And you clearly didn't understand why I brought up Sasuke. I brought him up to show you that Uchihas upgrade from MS to EMS. I thought you'd understand that since you like to ride Sasuke's tip so much. And why did you bring up blind sasuke again, when the state Sasuke was in doesn't relate to the state blind Madara was in whatsoever.
 

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Mei's Mist barely obscures vision in the first place. It's somewhat effective in the beginning but we seemingly realise it's not even present several minutes into the battle . Even in the very beginning it doesn't obscure vision by too much , so a Susano arrow is in no way out of question. Plus, massive Katon easily evaporates all the water droplets in the fog, and vision would be completely clear for Sasuke's Susano Arrow to be fired. At that very moment they'd need a defence, one which they don't have.

Itachi summons 50 crows to flock the Gokage, 10 on each, they're going to close their eyes to prevent the Crow from going right into their eye sight? Yea, no. Not how it works, they won't know which one has the Sharingan and they won't be able to prevent the Genjutsu unless they close their eyes. Gaara and Tsunade would be completely prone to the Genjutsu, they are easy targets and once they're in the Genjutsu a follow up like Susano arrow or Amaterasu is easily ending them. Not sure what sand screens you're talking about, but Gaara has never used any sand screens fyi.

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Fodders with Kyuubi cloak doesn't change the strength of the Kyuubi cloak. Hashirama with a Kyuubi cloak still has the same durability so your attempt to undermine its durability is ridiculous. Anyways, this is pretty much going right into the hands of the Uchiha. The Mist disappears once the Katon is used via evaporation and the Gokage thus have absolutely no LoS. On the other hand, the Uchiha can see the Gokage just fine with their Sharingan that sees right through the sand. Gaara has 0 reason to use an absurdly thick sand when all he's doing is blocking the Katon with the heat resistant properties of his sand, no reason for him to waste chakra on extra sand. Sasuke sends out a large Susano arrow right through the sand and kills Gaara or Mei. Obito has the ability to warp behind any of them since he can see them via Sharingan, and they won't realise it. Gaara's shield is the reason they block the Katon (given it's enhanceable by Amaterasu in the case Mei whips out Suiton) but also the reason they lose. Counter this strategy.



This would require Tsunade to know a massive Katon is coming from beforehand, which obviously isn't the case . No Suiton enhanced by Tsunade will be happening unless the user is yelling out that they are about to use a massive Katon. Jinton as well, there's no way Onoki can react to a large Katon from 10 meters with a Jinton. Not a chance since he can't even see the hand seals being formed.



Good thing that would never happen seeing how Itachi's Yata Mirror cannot be grabbed, Sasuke's Chidori Nagashi negates it, and Obito would be more then capable of helping out Madara with his Kamui's absurd speed.



Crow does it just fine. Plus, Madara was capable of forcing Genjutsu 1v5. Sure he's much stronger in Edo, doesn't change the fact that he didn't accomplish it using any EMS techs though. Plus, Itachi is better at Genjutsu. Then add in the fact there's 4 instead of 1 Genjutsu users and I see no reason as to how the Gokage avoid it.

Ok. Team Uchiha wins unless giant Jinton can be prepped, and it probably can't since Sasuke has Susanoo arrows and intel on Jinton. Mist and sand to block sharingan would work, but with full intel Obito and Madara can use their katons to evaporate the mist and blow away any sensor sand.
 

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This is online how can your ears be hearing anything dumb azz

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Beans i know you lol trying to hurry up and say not replying again LMAO just concede good day debating with you sir.
 
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