Is 'positive' discrimination becoming socially acceptable now?

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White's have a past of black slavery but black's have never had white slaves.

The Egyptians had Jewish slaves. Also if past behavior is really a justifiable excuse for future inequalities than the Native Americans should have all of us in this country rounded up and deported with not one of us saying a single world about it.
 

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If they aren't being systematically oppressed as well it isn't racism. Period.

Except the definition of racism is discrimination based on race and applying traits on the basis of race. Once again, you can't change the definition of words to fit your delusional agenda. Systematic oppression is one extreme result of racism, such as slavery and the Holocaust, but it is not the only form of racism
 

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Ignoring it won't make it go away. It's actually far from done with. Those who fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it. And it's not just slavery that's the issue. Even after slavery ended blacks were in politics in the south, and were threatened out of it by the KKK. Those who wanted to go to school had their schools burned to the ground, Emit Till got mutilated for "whistling" at a white woman. And to add on to that Jim crow laws didn't even end until the 1960s. Meaning blacks didn't have "equal" rights until half a decade ago. Stop trying to minimize the situation. It's not over and done with. No one says anything to American's still mourning over 9/11
Those who have lost their loved ones have the right to mourn their whole lives. However, the US should've moved on long ago, they're hypocrites for continuously bringing up 9/11 like they haven't done worse. Also dude, you have never known any black slave in your life, you have lived very comfortably your whole life compared to your ancestors. They're no longer here and guess what? The white people who enslaved them are no longer here either, all of them are gone. You would put them to shame if they knew how much you are whining about something that never happened in your lifetime.
You would make them proud if you just lived your life and were happy instead.
 

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Im white and i love everyone.
 

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Lmfao, blacks didnt give special treatment to their slaves, they raided their own ppls villiages in Africa, and rounded up ppl they traded as slaves to Arabs for goods long before North America was even settled by whites. Then you have the black egyptians who enslaved the jews and I dont think Moses was sent to free those jews because they had it so good.
You would be hard pressed to find an ethnic group that hasnt been guilty of slavery at some point in history.
As far as "white and priviledged" thats more of a class thing than a race thing, and if your poor and white your passed over by upper class and all minorities. Thats the reality in the US anyway.
I just do my thing and dont get caught up in the game these clowns in the media are playin with you fools. Ive never needed a hand or a hand out to take care of my business.
 

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Okay now both sides here are right and wrong, black's can be racist to whites while whites racist to blacks.Us black people are in the position we are in today because of slavery and segregation which was about 44 years ago, The most hated race in this world are blacks the reasons why, just because of our skin. yes white people are discriminated against but the severity of what black people go through there daily life is completely different example, say I walk down the street and a woman is walked towards my direction she would either clinch her purse and cross the street.If I were to walk into the store all eyes would follow me, then some employee would begin to follow me.How often are you called out you're name such as the disgusting racial slurs that I don't want to repeat.Did your ancestors get lynched, do you have a group of people that wanna kill you for the color of your skin, Did you get enslaved by black people I'm not talking about you guys enslaving each other or blacks enslaving each other that's a different although matter, Does the KKK plan to kill you every single breath you take.I myself am not racist or bigoted by when the time comes I will state facts. We black people live with systematic slavery where it is much harder for us to get a job even if we have the requirements that is the effect of slavery and segregation has imprinted in the minds of this generation.Even black and white people are racists to there own races because of this and it's sad let's go angainst eachother and work together to change this racist world because in the end we are all HUMAN BEINGS.
 

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The Egyptians had Jewish slaves. Also if past behavior is really a justifiable excuse for future inequalities than the Native Americans should have all of us in this country rounded up and deported with not one of us saying a single world about it.

Jews back then weren't white though
 

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That's because white people are racist to this day. Racial profiling, white america, white corporations, white funding for schools, white neighborhoods are the best. It's the things you don't see but boohoo ppl hate on whites because they enslaved a race for almost a century. We all live with the effects of slavery since then and white people have it the easiest.

Oh please!Whites are the only ones that can be racist?

Bullshit!Any ethnic group can be racist if they want to be,and no whites do not have it easier.In fact being a white male in the 'progressive' world is quickly becoming the equivalent to being a black man in the Jim Crow South.

And I'm bi racial,since some people think I'm fully white and therefore bear some responsibility for something that happened before I was born.


I don't,and neither should anyone else who did'nt own slaves or were racist.
But I do think it's telling that those who suffer from 'White Guilt' tend to be racist themselves though.
 

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Lmfao, blacks didnt give special treatment to their slaves, they raided their own ppls villiages in Africa, and rounded up ppl they traded as slaves to Arabs for goods long before North America was even settled by whites. Then you have the black egyptians who enslaved the jews and I dont think Moses was sent to free those jews because they had it so good.
You would be hard pressed to find an ethnic group that hasnt been guilty of slavery at some point in history.
As far as "white and priviledged" thats more of a class thing than a race thing, and if your poor and white your passed over by upper class and all minorities. Thats the reality in the US anyway.
I just do my thing and dont get caught up in the game these clowns in the media are playin with you fools. Ive never needed a hand or a hand out to take care of my business.
One thing people seem to forget is that Africans willingly sold people from enemy tribes to those coming for the slave trade.
 

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So I take it you've been to every white household, an every black ghetto? You're all knowing?

Well, I live in Poland, I was in Sweden, Germany, England and I was also in USA, New York. I visited Bronx and when I was there I heard some not-so-nice remarks becuase of my skin color. Some guys even wanted to beat me becuase of my "russian accent". Well, Im not even russian but how could they know. Luckily, I was was with my black friend who managed to deal with the situation.

I wanted to feel that ghetto astmosphere and surely I felt it. I doubt youd find some white district were youd find some as many racist people as in ghetto. I mean it.
 

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Except the definition of racism is discrimination based on race and applying traits on the basis of race. Once again, you can't change the definition of words to fit your delusional agenda. Systematic oppression is one extreme result of racism, such as slavery and the Holocaust, but it is not the only form of racism

Do you honestly believe that a system that was built on the backs of an ethnic group is going to tell them what they're doing to them even to this day? This is America, the land that massacred Native Americans, injected them with small pox, put Japanese in concentration camps, committed a mass lynching on blacks and italians, and bombed a small town in philadelphia. America the land that disbanded the black panther party but did nothing to stop the KKK. The world isn't as black and white as you think.. I couldn't care less about what the book of the oppressor says.
 

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Do you honestly believe that a system that was built on the backs of an ethnic group is going to tell them what they're doing to them even to this day? This is America, the land that massacred Native Americans, injected them with small pox, put Japanese in concentration camps, committed a mass lynching on blacks and italians, and bombed a small town in philadelphia. America the land that disbanded the black panther party but did nothing to stop the KKK. The world isn't as black and white as you think.. I couldn't care less about what the book of the oppressor says.
Because Americans are the only ones in charge of words for the entire planet. Makes sense.
 

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Those who have lost their loved ones have the right to mourn their whole lives. However, the US should've moved on long ago, they're hypocrites for continuously bringing up 9/11 like they haven't done worse. Also dude, you have never known any black slave in your life, you have lived very comfortably your whole life compared to your ancestors. They're no longer here and guess what? The white people who enslaved them are no longer here either, all of them are gone. You would put them to shame if they knew how much you are whining about something that never happened in your lifetime.
You would make them proud if you just lived your life and were happy instead.

I'm living my life, and I'm very happy. And I am black, but my ancestors were warriors and land owners(I was born in America, but my parents immigrated here from Africa) And yes the white people who enslaved them are not here, but the results of their actions still are.
 

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In the US if skin color makes it so hard to get a job than why are most NBA teams black?? Its all about money in todays society. Employers want the ppl that will make them the most money. Im thankful for all those kids who Ben Carson saved their lives that he saw this world as an obstacle he could overcome and not a victim crying like a little b*
 

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Lmfao, blacks didnt give special treatment to their slaves, they raided their own ppls villiages in Africa, and rounded up ppl they traded as slaves to Arabs for goods long before North America was even settled by whites. Then you have the black egyptians who enslaved the jews and I dont think Moses was sent to free those jews because they had it so good.
You would be hard pressed to find an ethnic group that hasnt been guilty of slavery at some point in history.
As far as "white and priviledged" thats more of a class thing than a race thing, and if your poor and white your passed over by upper class and all minorities. Thats the reality in the US anyway.
I just do my thing and dont get caught up in the game these clowns in the media are playin with you fools. Ive never needed a hand or a hand out to take care of my business.
No they did not. African tribes were at war with each other. And slaves were usually war prisoners. And yes they did sell slaves to Arabs, and Indians. But those weren't technically slaves, they were indentured servants. More like life long loyal servants, not livestock.
One thing people seem to forget is that Africans willingly sold people from enemy tribes to those coming for the slave trade.
Your pseudo intellect is starting to annoy me... Africans sold people from enemy tribes to Europeans yes. But Africans viewed slavery differently than Europeans did. They didn't know people were going to be treated like that. And there were many who refused to trade, guess what happened to them. Europeans either threatened them with their advanced technology saying either you bring us slaves or we'll take you in as slaves for ourselves, or killed them off.
Well, I live in Poland, I was in Sweden, Germany, England and I was also in USA, New York. I visited Bronx and when I was there I heard some not-so-nice remarks becuase of my skin color. Some guys even wanted to beat me becuase of my "russian accent". Well, Im not even russian but how could they know. Luckily, I was was with my black friend who managed to deal with the situation.

I wanted to feel that ghetto astmosphere and surely I felt it. I doubt youd find some white district were youd find some as many racist people as in ghetto. I mean it.

That's not the ghetto. That's ignorance. If you'd encounter them anywhere else I guarantee you those same jack.asses would've had the same reaction. I'm from New York as well, Bed Stuy. It wasn't a decent neighborhood until recently due to gentrification. Although it was once considered a ghetto, when white people moved here none of them got harmed at all. In fact no one here bothers you unless you're pretty much asking for it.
 

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Your pseudo intellect is starting to annoy me... Africans sold people from enemy tribes to Europeans yes. But Africans viewed slavery differently than Europeans did. They didn't know people were going to be treated like that. And there were many who refused to trade, guess what happened to them. Europeans either threatened them with their advanced technology saying either you bring us slaves or we'll take you in as slaves for ourselves, or killed them off.
That doesn't change anything about what I said
 

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So what was your initial point in making the statement?

That it wasn't just white people in the slave trade. Also, there are many forms of slavery that existed in Africa. Chattel slavery, the kind that defined the Atlantic Slave Trade, is also present in parts of Africa.
 

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Oh God...

Look at your congress. Look at the presidental candidates. Look at movie and TV series' protags. Look at list of richest people in USA.

Majority of them white and male? Did they lose power suddenly after some 15 y/o on the net typed "white people sux lol"?

People were not oppressed and discriminated against because they were lesser under laws, they were lesser under laws because they were oppressed and discriminated against. So even though giving them the equal rights is an important step, it does not magicly disperse the mindset that deemed people as lesser beings. Many of things got internalized and people can not even see their racism or other types of discrimination.

Look at the.popularity of some witless lacking failure called Donald Trump has. He is a rapist who want to deport ten million people and he bullshit through anyone but tumblr kiddos somehow more of a threat? Women, LGBT and/or non-white people have been disturbed by atmosphere of internet, politics and media for a long long while...what would you say in this situation...Get over it? You self-kidding pseudo liberals seems to like concept of getting over, so you might as well want to follow the suit.
One thing people seem to forget is that Africans willingly sold people from enemy tribes to those coming for the slave trade.
Just because a place has inner conflicts it does not mean outer parties can feel entitled to those people. "They are doing this to each other so i can dispatch them" is a basic excuse for uncalled meddling.

And Africans did not sell "their own people". Africa' ethnic diversity is one of the highest Along with Asia, there were different tribes, cultures and conflicts among them. Saying "Africans sold their own people" is not accurate like how saying "Europeans killed their own people" for Holocaust or "Russia deported its own people" for deportions under Soviets are inaccurate.

They did not consider them their "own" to begin with.
 
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