Itachi vs Orochimaru

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Itachi? I bet a clone is enough to solo Orochimaru.
 

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If you are moving, Naruto or not, you are not paralyzed. Like shikamaru losing his hold on Tayuya or Hidan and they were able to move somewhat.
 

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Except everything Jiraiya has stated is entirely true and Jiraiya is the main source of information of Akatsuku. Even then, Jiraiya managed to infiltrate Pain's village while avoiding detection for the most part, so the idea of him not attaining accurate information seems rather odd to me.



Except Itachi recognized Orochimaru's Hydra technique from sensing it's presence.

Seems rather unlikely Orochimaru would reveal his highest level jutsu to people he didn't trust. esp. to the guy who he wanted to ambush. If anything, giving Itachi knowledge on his highest level technique puts Orochimaru at a disadvantage.



Implying that the Akatsuki other than Itachi knew about Orochimaru's attempted ambush.

Then he had faulty information this time, or it was a retcon. . .

Meaning he could've known from the information he gathered, or Orochimaru used it in his presence when they were on a mission . .
Orochimaru didn't want to kill Itachi, he didn't want to harm Itachi. He wanted his body, so Fushi Tensei would be the only secret to keep from Itachi. Yamata no Orochi would be fine to reveal in Itachi's presence as it wasn't a necessary part in taking Itachi's body.

Stating that Itachi would let Orochimaru continue attacking him on multiple occasions. Just stop.
 

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Then he had faulty information this time, or it was a retcon. . .

You haven't explained to me why. It was directly stated and Jiraiya is the main source of information that Konoha has on the Akatsuki. The guy literally infiltrated Pain's village. The lengths he goes to attain information makes it seem rather credible if he's getting well-within the source.

Meaning he could've known from the information he gathered, or Orochimaru used it in his presence when they were on a mission . .
Orochimaru didn't want to kill Itachi, he didn't want to harm Itachi. He wanted his body, so Fushi Tensei would be the only secret to keep from Itachi. Yamata no Orochi would be fine to reveal in Itachi's presence as it wasn't a necessary part in taking Itachi's body.

The first part doesn't make sense. Orochimaru wasn't in the Akatsuki until after he left the village and the last time Jiraiya saw Orochimaru was when he attempted to get him to stay in the village.

You still haven't explained why he would display such a technique to somebody he didn't trust. It doesn't make sense, nor does it make sense to reveal his best technique to somebody he knows he's going to fight sooner or later.

Stating that Itachi would let Orochimaru continue attacking him on multiple occasions. Just stop.

Implying that Itachi was actually scared of Orochimaru. :lmao:
 

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Itachi cannot Beat Oru with out the Spirit Weapons, let alone ZORU with out the weapons.
 

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You haven't explained to me why. It was directly stated and Jiraiya is the main source of information that Konoha has on the Akatsuki. The guy literally infiltrated Pain's village. The lengths he goes to attain information makes it seem rather credible if he's getting well-within the source.



The first part doesn't make sense. Orochimaru wasn't in the Akatsuki until after he left the village and the last time Jiraiya saw Orochimaru was when he attempted to get him to stay in the village.

You still haven't explained why he would display such a technique to somebody he didn't trust. It doesn't make sense, nor does it make sense to reveal his best technique to somebody he knows he's going to fight sooner or later.



Implying that Itachi was actually scared of Orochimaru. :lmao:

>Itachi defeats Orochimaru
>Orochimaru remains a member for no reason
>Itachi defeats Orochimaru again
>Orochimaru remains a member for no reason
>Itachi defeats Orochimaru again
>Orochimaru remains a member for no reason
>and again and again and no one else, not Kisame, Pain, or Tobi, ever finds out

You're basing that idea on a scan from part 1? Can you provide that scan?
Orochimaru's attack on Itachi has been referenced in part 1 and shown in part 2, there's not even a mention of anything else. Once Orochimaru was defeated, he had no reason to stay in Akatsuki. So he left.

Sigh. Itachi could've seen it on a joint Akatsuki mission seeing how they were a mercenary force before Bijuu hunters, or he could've gained info on it from a raid of one of Orochimaru's hideouts. I've already explained why Itachi wouldn't use Yamata no Orochi against Itachi and why Fushi Tensei is the only necessary thing to keep secret. But you ignored it.
I'm not implying Itachi was scared, you idiot. I'm implying that your proposed scenario is just silly.
 

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Itachi cannot Beat Oru with out the Spirit Weapons, let alone ZORU with out the weapons.

Lol. Orochimaru lost to Itachi and then even admitted inferiority to him way before he even knew Itachi had the spirit weapons that solo the Narutoverse.
 

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Lol. Orochimaru lost to Itachi and then even admitted inferiority to him way before he even knew Itachi had the spirit weapons that solo the Narutoverse.

They Do solo the Naruverse not gonna Lie. lol Dat Itachi is Godsend
 

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>Itachi defeats Orochimaru
>Orochimaru remains a member for no reason
>Itachi defeats Orochimaru again
>Orochimaru remains a member for no reason
>Itachi defeats Orochimaru again
>Orochimaru remains a member for no reason
>and again and again and no one else, not Kisame, Pain, or Tobi, ever finds out

You're basing that idea on a scan from part 1? Can you provide that scan?
Orochimaru's attack on Itachi has been referenced in part 1 and shown in part 2, there's not even a mention of anything else. Once Orochimaru was defeated, he had no reason to stay in Akatsuki. So he left.

Sigh. Itachi could've seen it on a joint Akatsuki mission seeing how they were a mercenary force before Bijuu hunters, or he could've gained info on it from a raid of one of Orochimaru's hideouts. I've already explained why Itachi wouldn't use Yamata no Orochi against Itachi and why Fushi Tensei is the only necessary thing to keep secret. But you ignored it.
I'm not implying Itachi was scared, you idiot. I'm implying that your proposed scenario is just silly.



I'm actually wrong.
 

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Orochimaru wins. He's unbelievably powerful. Itachi died like 200 times against Kabutomaru. Even if you argue Orochimaru is weaker, then what, that makes him kill him 100 times instead of 200? Maybe 10?
He'd need Edo and his brother's support to be able to fight him toe-to-toe.
 
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