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How do you think Naruto would be if he didn't have Kurama?
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Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't FTG made from seals of Uzumaki's techs? If Naruto learned those from Kushina wouldn't it be enough for him to copy Minato's style?
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Naruto already had whiskers when he was born. They did not go on him after Kyuubi seal.
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Used your head child if Naruto grew with Kurama it would have never happen because Obito would have had Kurama and the world would have died in a dream.Thus in order for Naruto to grow up He needed to have Kurama in Him or Have both parents alive because had Obito gotten Kurama back then,He would have completed the Moon eye plan years ago when Naruto was in diapers and had no opposition. What can’t the young think of the long term affects of an action?
Just there for show. Kishimoto said that Boruto's eyes are softer than Naruto's, because he isn't a fox.
^Movie Design for the Zai no Sho.
He pretty much confirmed those whiskers don't give anything. If he did have some hidden power, like Himawari's Byakugan, he would of activated it in the Movie. Though like someone said, there's always room for a retcon.
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Without kurama iruka level chakra no durability or recovery speed pathetic chakra. His style would have to change maybe more sly ish no futon Rasen shuriken.
So high chunin level at best
So high chunin level at best
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Sasuke without Sharingan won't be Sasuke. So I don't think that's exactly a "better question"... Just saying.
No. Tobirama created FTG and he most probably didn't know much about Uzumaki seals. That was thought to Minato by Kushina.
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Taking Kurama out of the equation changes everything as he learned all of his major techs by abusing the 'natural mixing of chakra and greater stamina and the ability to spring back on ones feet' - confirmed by Kakashi a few times. Once you take that out, he's left with good chakra and very little talent. I am sorry, but making 1000 clones to create a tech by greedily amassing their experience isn't talent. Not by any stretch of imagination.
He perfected - in his way anyway - the Rasengan and KB because Kurama allowed him to spring back on his feat without any repercussions. Kakashi confirms it, that the more clones you make, the more exhaustion is added to the over all pakage as well. He also leanred Sage Mode by divinding up the time. So, let's throw this 'talent' notion out of the park.
Just because Minato learned the seals doesn't mean Naruto can. This analogy doesn't even make any sense, as Minato is a 'once in a decade' prodigy. Naruto is an idiot who was shown to be incapable of grasping basic concepts and is taunted on the same front by just about everyone. Sure, he has had his 'smart' moments, but that is something almost every character managed.
Heck, the guy had no clue that he was amassing the Bunshins experience, when he had literally read the scroll himself. He was still incapable of forming a one-hand complete Rasangan-tech at the end despite possessing countless decades worth of experince under his belt. If that doesn't scream talentless, then I don't know what does.
Naruto learning some complicated seals is fiction. His entire progress proves that he won't be able to. I can see him learning Rasangan by the time he reaches adulthood, as without Kurama that cut-short time for learning techs tricks isn't happening. FRS? Yeah, I don't think so. Sage Mode? An imperfect one is all I will give him.
What else? He'll he mid-Jounin level without Kurama, at most. People forget, that Kurama played an integral part in his recovery from clones and to get a hang of them in the first place. Without Kurama, Naruto would be pretty pedestrain, given the fact that he doesn't even possess the pure Uzumaki genes, proven by Kabuto.
He perfected - in his way anyway - the Rasengan and KB because Kurama allowed him to spring back on his feat without any repercussions. Kakashi confirms it, that the more clones you make, the more exhaustion is added to the over all pakage as well. He also leanred Sage Mode by divinding up the time. So, let's throw this 'talent' notion out of the park.
Just because Minato learned the seals doesn't mean Naruto can. This analogy doesn't even make any sense, as Minato is a 'once in a decade' prodigy. Naruto is an idiot who was shown to be incapable of grasping basic concepts and is taunted on the same front by just about everyone. Sure, he has had his 'smart' moments, but that is something almost every character managed.
Heck, the guy had no clue that he was amassing the Bunshins experience, when he had literally read the scroll himself. He was still incapable of forming a one-hand complete Rasangan-tech at the end despite possessing countless decades worth of experince under his belt. If that doesn't scream talentless, then I don't know what does.
Naruto learning some complicated seals is fiction. His entire progress proves that he won't be able to. I can see him learning Rasangan by the time he reaches adulthood, as without Kurama that cut-short time for learning techs tricks isn't happening. FRS? Yeah, I don't think so. Sage Mode? An imperfect one is all I will give him.
What else? He'll he mid-Jounin level without Kurama, at most. People forget, that Kurama played an integral part in his recovery from clones and to get a hang of them in the first place. Without Kurama, Naruto would be pretty pedestrain, given the fact that he doesn't even possess the pure Uzumaki genes, proven by Kabuto.
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Probably. He isn't intelligent though. Minato was a prodigy, so putting Naruto at that level doesn't make much sense to me.true, unless Minato and Kushina live on then He would be Perfect Sage with FTG and bunch cool skills, use more strategy and various techniques, including nature using techniques.
XD That's actually what I was trying to say those whiskers don't mean he took after kurama or got his chakra but it was hereditary(from Naruto). And kurama's chakra isn't and can't be passed down.
Rasengan using/spamming(?) fodder... minus huge plot shield to save him once negged.
Sorry forgot about vote1 he'd be dead/disabled on Le Sauce's arm or dead since taiju kage bunshin wouldnt be happening to save himself and iruka or dead from the oro's snake at chuunin exam...
Or non ninja without kurama healing him after a vote's hefty stomp.
But Le Sauce would be weaker w/o sharingan but still be pretty versatile. He actually had shit lightweight going for him before academy, sharingan, & cs. He had more than most of his gen except Lee & Neji who were the only real 3 with some actual skill considering ino-shika-cho werent solo ready by comparison compared to those 3 genuises/prodigies.
Sorry forgot about vote1 he'd be dead/disabled on Le Sauce's arm or dead since taiju kage bunshin wouldnt be happening to save himself and iruka or dead from the oro's snake at chuunin exam...
Or non ninja without kurama healing him after a vote's hefty stomp.
But Le Sauce would be weaker w/o sharingan but still be pretty versatile. He actually had shit lightweight going for him before academy, sharingan, & cs. He had more than most of his gen except Lee & Neji who were the only real 3 with some actual skill considering ino-shika-cho werent solo ready by comparison compared to those 3 genuises/prodigies.
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This post is brilliant! Most perfect observation, deduction and conclusion... Pretty logical and accurate, I'd say.
