[Predictions] Fairy Tail Manga Chapter 458 Discussion and 459 Predictions

[Hexuze]

All this unnecessary complaining lol. MS is out and I updated the OP.

 

[- J AV -]

Nice chapter.

Next week we will be getting 2 chaps 0_o

 

[Tobi98]

Well at least Erza got rekt when he got serious but still plot shield to the max

 

[Memento Mori]

Nothing much.......Same old every week Fairy Tail. Ajeel's arrogance is to be the blame for his own defeat. Very nice strategy by Erza and good picking up of the situation by Bisca to fire Jupiter Canon.

I didn't liked how weak Mashima sensei showed Erza as. Well, she is said to be one of the Wizard Saint level mage from the start of this manga and Mashima himself stated that Erza has over 100 armours in her arsenal in the Volume Book 09 'Explain the Mysteries of FT Section'. She even trained one year but still she couldn't defeat Ajeel alone?. Also I don't understand why Mashima didn't used Armour of Nakagami from the start?. Is it because it puts heavy weight on the person after it's use?. Using Wind God Armour is no surprise because she is said to be someone who has over 100 armours when the series started. I understand each and every armour Erza used & using till now in the manga from the very first chapter are from those set of armours she acquired in her adventures. I understand the armours are not brought out of nowwhere since it is already been said that she has over 100 armours from the start of the manga.

Well I noticed that Erza can mix up armours and weapons as per her choice since chapter 14 and if I just randomly pick a chapter......just randomly picking a chapter.....say?....Chapter 321...I noticed that in this chapter Erza in her Crimson Sakura attire mixed up 'fairy swords' from 'Armadura Fairy Armour'. I understand she can do that since it is established her magic is not only a knight magic but also a sword magic too.

Well in all honesty.....I think the fight could have been executed properly but it is not bad. The same Ajeel defended easily against Jupiter few chapters ago but now he didn't. I am not saying Jupiter Cannon is weak. The power in it is strong. That is for sure. It took Erza's strongest defence armour, Adamantine to block the Jupiter and Erza suffered heavy damage after being hit by it in Phantom Lord arc. Even in tartarus arc Gray defeated Mard Geer who is unable to dodge his attack or compose himself to withstand Gray's attack when Natsu distracted him. Even in last week's chapter when Ajeel got distracted and too composed on Bakel....Erza sliced him surprisingly which inflicted some damage on him. So I understand when you are not being aware even a smallest things can hurt you which you can possibly evade if you are aware of it. Also I too noticed that Jupiter hit Ajeel on the same side where he took that damage from Erza. Given all it did was push Ajeel back who is in the air so that Erza capitalized on that situation and used her 'starlight' attack to defeat Ajeel. But despite all of that detail in the chapters where Mashima gives through his art alone....And I don't understand why?. Well the thing with Jupiter Should have been handed nicely not that it is bad.

Bisca is known to be someone who is accurate and very good at gun magic. In the light Erza showed through her Morning Star armor. It the radius of the light is not only around her but it formed a circle around both Ajeel and Erza as it Ajeel is as nearer to Erza. If you notice at that small light bubble in that sand world....you can trace two persons in it. One is Ajeel and other is Erza. Given it is Bisca who is firing Jupiter...It is natural for her to fire with pin-point accuracy.

One more thing talking about Erza's fight in this chapter. She used more than one armour changing according to how the conditions meet in her huge arsenal unlike some other fights she had before. But why Mashima......Why not Erza defeated Ajeel in Crimson Sakura attire with her normal good speech about nakama. Just why?.

 

[Tobi98]

I didn't liked how weak Mashima sensei showed Erza as. Well, she is said to be one of the Wizard Saint level mage from the start of this manga and Mashima himself stated that Erza has over 100 armours in her arsenal in the Volume Book 09 'Explain the Mysteries of FT Section'. She even trained one year but still she couldn't defeat Ajeel alone?. Also I don't understand why Mashima didn't used Armour of Nakagami from the start?. Is it because it puts heavy weight on the person after it's use?. Using Wind God Armour is no surprise because she is said to be someone who has over 100 armours when the series started. I understand each and every armour Erza used & using till now in the manga from the very first chapter are from those set of armours she acquired in her adventures. I understand the armours are not brought out of nowwhere since it is already been said that she has over 100 armours from the start of the manga.

You say "she even trained for 1 year" like that's a lot

Jura was stronger than Erza in the Oracion arc and even after training his ass off for 7 years he wasn't nowhere close the 4 Ishgal Gods

Erza with 2nd Origin (which was portrayed to equal 7 months of hard training) and 1 year training managed to make Ajeel, who's close to the strongest Ishgal God, go all out

So yeah if she had actually won solo it'd be bs

 

[Memento Mori]

You say "she even trained for 1 year" like that's a lot

Jura was stronger than Erza in the Oracion arc and even after training his ass off for 7 years he wasn't nowhere close the 4 Ishgal Gods

Erza with 2nd Origin (which was portrayed to equal 7 months of hard training) and 1 year training managed to make Ajeel, who's close to the strongest Ishgal God, go all out

So yeah if she had actually won solo it'd be bs

If you read that paragraph carefully.....You can see that I am questioning and answering them myself. What I am saying about Erza should alone win this fight is in opposite to the people who always say Erza won this fight alone. I think now you understand what I am saying. I just happened to start it with why Erza blah blah blah

Also that para is mainly about Erza's huge arsenal which was introduced way long ago in the manga which I am mentioning as I heard fans talk about how did Erza bringing those armors when she already has them.

 

[milkydean]

You say "she even trained for 1 year" like that's a lot

Jura was stronger than Erza in the Oracion arc and even after training his ass off for 7 years he wasn't nowhere close the 4 Ishgal Gods

Erza with 2nd Origin (which was portrayed to equal 7 months of hard training) and 1 year training managed to make Ajeel, who's close to the strongest Ishgal God, go all out

So yeah if she had actually won solo it'd be bs

Jura's potency is less than erza,Laxus trained 3 months and caught up with jura,tbh jura doesnt seem to be the guy with talent, he is more a hardwork type of guy,look at gildarts who is probably the same age as jura, yet a lot stronger than him.Erza was a wizard saint level mage from the very start as stated by jellal, plus she is really talented, she was able to control multiple swords when she was a kid, and she was the strongest kid in ft during her time, i guess even stronger than macao and wakaba.But spriggans are generals choosen to fight acno, so you need to expect some exceptional mage from their side too

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Its shown in anime, if you are ignorant enough to not consider the anime, then its your problem, plus erza can summon different kind of swords in both her heaven wheel armor as well as red pants, there is nothing suggesting that she can't mix her armors.
Even if its a new armor, its basic elemental armor, she had already used element based armors before.Stop acting so butthurt

Yeah no, we don't use filler in her. Give me a manga panel of such thing happening or you are excused.

 

[Memento Mori]

Did I forget to mention any crucial points from this chapter?. xD

 

[JStar King]

Asspull Armor strikes again

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[JStar King]

Badass Erza Nakagami armor makes another appearance & I can't wait for the color page/double chapters next week.

You mean Asspull Plot Armor?

 

[Tobi98]

If you read that paragraph carefully.....You can see that I am questioning and answering them myself. What I am saying about Erza should alone win this fight is in opposite to the people who always say Erza won this fight alone. I think now you understand what I am saying. I just happened to start it with why Erza blah blah blah

Also that para is mainly about Erza's huge arsenal which was introduced way long ago in the manga which I am mentioning as I heard fans talk about how did Erza bringing those armors when she already has them.

Oh sorry for the missunderstanding then

Jura's potency is less than erza,Laxus trained 3 months and caught up with jura,tbh jura doesnt seem to be the guy with talent, he is more a hardwork type of guy,look at gildarts who is probably the same age as jura, yet a lot stronger than him.Erza was a wizard saint level mage from the very start as stated by jellal, plus she is really talented, she was able to control multiple swords when she was a kid, and she was the strongest kid in ft during her time, i guess even stronger than macao and wakaba.But spriggans are generals choosen to fight acno, so you need to expect some exceptional mage from their side too

Laxus was always a beast tbh even before the training Hades compared him to Gildarts, so Laxus >= Jura in 3 months training is not as much of a stretch

but well I'm cool as long as Erza ain't as strong as the Spriggan 12, my only problem with the chapter was the shit of Ajeel being the only affected by Cannon and Ajeel cliche "playing" with her before fighting, so I'm more mad at the plot shield than the power scalling

 

[milkydean]

Yeah no, we don't use filler in her. Give me a manga panel of such thing happening or you are excused.

No, Ft fillers are not fillers, they are Canon, mashima is involved in anime and he supervises it
Zentopia arc was mentioned in manga
Angel's magic from keys of starry arc was retained in manga, kinana as a character itself is proof that ft fillers are Canon
But then again, I don't expect you to know all this stuff so you are welcome for the info

 

[bajram]

Wow at anyone who takes hype in FT seriously, anyone who has been reading this manga at least for an extended amount of time knows that hype means shit in this manga u can be hyped like hell but in the end the villain never gets a good fight, either it gets defeated via pure bullshit or nakama power up its just how it is, give the manga 1k more chapters and u will still have the same result.

The fights in FT arent mean to take them seriously they are full of PIS which is why u dont whine about it every week because u should already know what's going to happen, fake hype is one of Mashimas "strongest" points.

OT: 3/5 chapter.

 

[Wizard_Impressive]

Okay erza pulls out a wind armor but is using a water sword
Fine il accept she's had the sword since tenrou but it's just annoying every fight she wins with a armor pulled out of nowhere like agains Minerva she pulls out an armor said that's said to be the strongest and can bend magic like wtf they might as well make erza fight all the spriggan 12 cos hiro will just make her win
Second of all this ***** blocked Jupiter with 1 arm when he barely saw it coming now he gets a clear look at it but he can't block it!?
So if all the spriggans are as strong as no 1 wizard saint that means erza is the strongest in ishgar if that's the case then all they really need is Laxus and gildarts and probably the no 2 and 3 wizard saints for ishgar to win this DAMM war
I hope all the fights aren't like this

 

[Venomous Cobra]

No, Ft fillers are not fillers, they are Canon, mashima is involved in anime and he supervises it
Zentopia arc was mentioned in manga
Angel's magic from keys of starry arc was retained in manga, kinana as a character itself is proof that ft fillers are Canon
But then again, I don't expect you to know all this stuff so you are welcome for the info

You do know that most authors also take some involvement in anime all the time right>?It;'s not only mashima that does it/ Take naruto for example, Some filler characters and events were designed by kishi, yet they're not considered canon as he didn't actually do their story. Plus if you can provide any hints in the manga that part happened just like zentopia happened, I can take you word, but one thing does not make the entire anime canon lml, look at the latest episode for example, laxus comes to save gajeel instead of gray, do you honestly expect anyone to take you and the anime seriously with such BS??>LMAO Nah.

Funny thing Zentopia wasn't even over in the anime when the manga said the "events that happened", goes to show you how much of a BS the studio is making.

Again back to point 1, do you have any manga evidence that events in the fight were made by mahsima and not the studio?

 

[milkydean]

You do know that most authors also take some involvement in anime all the time right>?It;'s not only mashima that does it/ Take naruto for example, Some filler characters and events were designed by kishi, yet they're not considered canon as he didn't actually do their story. Plus if you can provide any hints in the manga that part happened just like zentopia happened, I can take you word, but one thing does not make the entire anime canon lml, look at the latest episode for example, laxus comes to save gajeel instead of gray, do you honestly expect anyone to take you and the anime seriously with such BS??>LMAO Nah.

Funny thing Zentopia wasn't even over in the anime when the manga said the "events that happened", goes to show you how much of a BS the studio is making.

Again back to point 1, do you have any manga evidence that events in the fight were made by mahsima and not the studio?

The fight happened in manga, the anime extended it, plus your complaining dont make sense at all.You are complaining that zentopia arc was not over in anime yet was mentioned in manga?I dont understand what the problem here is, you do know that anime and manga go with a different pacing right?Its just like complaining that mira took over sayla yet the anime has not finished the tartarus arc.Thats stupid
Laxus 's part was already in mashima's original draft, and why is it BS?just bcoz you say so?Laxus part was well done in anime
Mashima supervises the episodes ,so yeah the fight was canon
Plus like I said before, she can summon different swords with her red pants outfits as well as heaven wheel armour,I dont see why see cant do it with any other sets of armor

 

[jhamz]

It really is hard to accept that Ajeel was defeated that easily. These two pages are all I need to explain how terrible his defeat is. [

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Azir was sustaining a spell that was covering the whole city and his sand was all over and it only makes sense if he was not able to focus sand on a certain spot making him unable to block jupiter again. When he first block jupiter, he was it his best condition. I mean he hasn't been sliced yet by Erza at that time. I think that explains it. But I maybe wrong.

 

[Relostar Devil]

Azir was sustaining a spell that was covering the whole city and his sand was all over and it only makes sense if he was not able to focus sand on a certain spot making him unable to block jupiter again. When he first block jupiter, he was it his best condition. I mean he hasn't been sliced yet by Erza at that time. I think that explains it. But I maybe wrong.

What the hell are you talking about, his whole body is made of sand he himself said so. Can't you see the loophole of this big magnitude

 

[Venomous Cobra]

The fight happened in manga, the anime extended it,

Still filler materiel that is not made by the author unless you can bring facts

plus your complaining dont make sense at all.You are complaining that zentopia arc was not over in anime yet was mentioned in manga?I dont understand what the problem here is, you do know that anime and manga go with a different pacing right?Its just like complaining that mira took over sayla yet the anime has not finished the tartarus arc.Thats stupid

Trators arc was completely drawn by mahsima, zentopia was only mentioned, that's the difference. smh so slow.

Laxus 's part was already in mashima's original draft, and why is it BS?just bcoz you say so?Laxus part was well done in anime

It being well done is just your opinion, that fact that is there and plain is that the anime didn;t follow the manga and it restored to some silly asspull of laxus being mobile during an accident that he wasn't suppose to be conscious in
Mashima supervises the episodes ,so yeah the fight was canon

Plus like I said before, she can summon different swords with her red pants outfits as well as heaven wheel armour,I dont see why see cant do it with any other sets of armor

Let's see

-The designis not the same
-The weapon is not the same as sea empress

smh even the ability is bit different as sea empress allows you to use water attacks and nullifies them, while this one was clearly nothing but a focused water sword