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well it was mostly Jupiter that did the work. Its kinda annoying that Erza pulls new armour out for every situation though XD

Water sword and Morningstar seemed way to convenient -.-

I quite like Erza as a character but she has way too much plot armour (literally) in her fights
I completely agree.
I would have rather preferred if someone else would have jumped in and helped her.
It was also a great chance for Hiro to continue Laxus vs Ajeel from where Hiro left it off.
 

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She didn't mix shit lol it's completely a new armor designed and made for this fight only.
Wind armour is new, water armour was already there, its been shown in the anime, morning star was already introduced too, so yeah she mixed her sets of armour which she has already shown to do in anime original fight against 100 monsters
 

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Wind armour is new, water armour was already there, its been shown in the anime, morning star was already introduced too, so yeah she mixed her sets of armour which she has already shown to do in anime original fight against 100 monsters
forgot about it but its true, nothing to complain about this chap then lol

I completely agree.
I would have rather preferred if someone else would have jumped in and helped her.
It was also a great chance for Hiro to continue Laxus vs Ajeel from where Hiro left it off.
it wouldnt be a fight, Laxus would one shot him as stated by august :coffee:
 

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Erza have an armor for everything. I can't stand her
♥ Erza is Boss, i love her. ♥

Erza defeated ajeel or to be accurate, Bisca quickscooped the shit out of him with that giant ass cannon. Anyway Ajeel was few inches away from killing erza but then he got shot with the big ass cannon from phantom lord and then erza hit him one last time with her most OP armor and GG Ajeel, smh.

And yeah, Erza apparently has a new armor that gives her a water sword, like literary she got an armor for everything.
Well, it was said long ago that she has over 100 armors. It's common sense to think & know they're all different, & provide her great diversity.

She's prepared for all types of situations. Smart.

Just like Hokage 06 said, I can't stand her.
She is sooo plot written. She shouldn't stand a chance against a spriggan, if each of them is equal to the strongest of the 11 wizard saints.lmaooo

Erza>Mira
 
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Troll tail is back with even more trolls this time!!!!!! Jupiter hitting a guy whose body is of sand and springann got defeated by a girl who played Halloween this whole series!!!!! Let's take a moment of silence for the author for his amazing work.
 
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lol @ some people in here. Not getting what's going on and still talking bs.

Nice chapter! One of the few fights of Erza without random power up and because she's Erza thing.
We saw how strong a Spriggan can be the last chapters. Erza wouldn't have won if it weren't for Natsus distraction to land a nice hit on Ajeel and for his stupidity and arrogance. He showed what he can do in this chapter and yet he himself was his own defeat. Nice play of the Jupitar gun and giving Erza the chance for the final blow.
 
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Congratulations. This is what I call a bunch of whiners who are whining for the sake of whining and in their hurry to whine as much as possible showed how ignorant and completely oblivious they actually are and don't even realize it.

Erza's magic is based on storing weapons in a magical armory that she can access at any time. With other words this magic is as basic as they come, there is nothing special about it. However if she would just use regular weapons, that wouldn't make her much different from a regular soldier. The biggest advantage of her magic is that she can store a large variety of weapons and armors which she then can summon for specific situations. There is nothing hax of special about it, this is an ability as simple as they come, but highly efficient. That's the entire point of her magic and most of her weapons are all what you could expect. She used fire, water, lighting, speed, power etc. types before whenever it was needed. Using an armour or weapon that gives you an advantage over the magic of your opponent, that's the strongest point of her magic and there is nothing OP or hax about it. That's just you finding petty excuses to whine again.

The Morning Star armour she used before, nothing new. Not sure whether she used the water sword, but she used water equipment before and Lucy also has some kind of water whip, so nothing new there either. Wind weapon? Not sure if she used it before, but if you have fire, water etc. based weapons, logically there will be wind-based ones too, so nothing there either. It would have been more illogical if she didn't have it.

And still you people are whining. Erza took down Azir? It was a team effort. Erza was about to die, but then used a simple, but efficient tactic to let Bisca know where she was, Bisca then hit Azir with a powerful magic canon. Erza then took advantage of the situation to finish the job. What? The Spriggans were supposed to be as strong as the Wizard Saints? Laxus took down a Wizard Saint. And it was already implied that not all Spriggans are completely equal. And it was also shown that Makarov was highly underestimating the current power of some of the FT wizards. And did you expect that none of the Spriggans would be beaten or something? You people aren't even aware that your comments are far more ridiculous, illogical and stupid than you make this chapter out to be. This is also this typical attitude of VS threads where people only think there is some kind of universal ranking of all characters in existence and that a character that is ranked lower can never beat one that is ranked higher. Get a reality check, that's not how it works.

Erza used water and wind type based weapons. That sand is weak to water, is something that is used in many series. She intentionally used weapons she knew would be advantageous against Azir. That's how her magic works, it's called being prepared and fighting intelligent. Agreed her Nakagami armour can be considered hax, but that's pretty much the only one and in this chapter she only used it to deal the final blow after applying a simple, but effective tactic together with Bisca.

Do you how some of you people actually sound? "Oh no, Erza used a water weapon, how convenient! And this for a mage whose magic is centered around using a large variety of magical weapons and armors! I'm so in shock about this revelation that I have to whine as much as possible! And oh no she beat one of twelve powerful evil characters! How is that possible! I was convinced that all the heroes would die and all the villains would be victorious! This makes no sense! And how could she have done that all alone, the fact that she received major help from another character I'm going to completely ignore!"

Every time I think people's comments can sink any lower, somehow some of you succeed in reaching a new level. The irony it is that you are whining about how bad the chapter is while your own comments are even less worth. Whining for the sake of whining, being oblivious to the fact that you're producing nonsensical BS. Then just shut up.
 
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This fight was a lot better than people think,
1st it was a teamwork, and that too a good one
2nd a lot better than erza's fight against kyouka or minerva
3rd hiro maintained the superiority of spriggans, most of the erza fights end with the opponent muttering 'she's too strong or stay away from me' in this fight erza clearly accepts the fact that azir was superior to her and needed bisca's help.I wont say this was the best fight or something like that but hating it just for the sake of hating is just typical haters
 

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Congratulations. This is what I call a bunch of whiners who are whining for the sake of whining and in their hurry to whine as much as possible showed how ignorant and completely oblivious they actually are and don't even realize it.

Erza's magic is based on storing weapons in a magical armory that she can access at any time. With other words this magic is as basic as they come, there is nothing special about it. However if she would just use regular weapons, that wouldn't make her much different from a regular soldier. The biggest advantage of her magic is that she can store a large variety of weapons and armors which she then can summon for specific situations. There is nothing hax of special about it, this is an ability as simple as they come, but highly efficient. That's the entire point of her magic and most of her weapons are all what you could expect. She used fire, water, lighting, speed, power etc. types before whenever it was needed. Using an armour or weapon that gives you an advantage over the magic of your opponent, that's the strongest point of her magic and there is nothing OP or hax about it. That's just you finding petty excuses to whine again.

The Morning Star armour she used before, nothing new. Not sure whether she used the water sword, but she used water equipment before and Lucy also has some kind of water whip, so nothing new there either. Wind weapon? Not sure if she used it before, but if you have fire, water etc. based weapons, logically there will be wind-based ones too, so nothing there either. It would have been more illogical if she didn't have it.

And still you people are whining. Erza took down Azir? It was a team effort. Erza was about to die, but then used a simple, but efficient tactic to let Bisca know where she was, Bisca then hit Azir with a powerful magic canon. Erza then took advantage of the situation to finish the job. What? The Spriggans were supposed to be as strong as the Wizard Saints? Laxus took down a Wizard Saint. And it was already implied that not all Spriggans are completely equal. And it was also shown that Makarov was highly underestimating the current power of some of the FT wizards. And did you expect that none of the Spriggans would be beaten or something? You people aren't even aware that your comments are far more ridiculous, illogical and stupid than you make this chapter out to be. This is also this typical attitude of VS threads where people only think there is some kind of universal ranking of all characters in existence and that a character that is ranked lower can never beat one that is ranked higher. Get a reality check, that's not how it works.

Erza used water and wind type based weapons. That sand is weak to water, is something that is used in many series. She intentionally used weapons she knew would be advantageous against Azir. That's how her magic works, it's called being prepared and fighting intelligent. Agreed her Nakagami armour can be considered hax, but that's pretty much the only one and in this chapter she only used it to deal the final blow after applying a simple, but effective tactic together with Bisca.

Do you how some of you people actually sound? "Oh no, Erza used a water weapon, how convenient! And this for a mage whose magic is centered around using a large variety of magical weapons and armors! I'm so in shock about this revelation that I have to whine as much as possible! And oh no she beat one of twelve powerful evil characters! How is that possible! I was convinced that all the heroes would die and all the villains would be victorious! This makes no sense! And how could she have done that all alone, the fact that she received major help from another character I'm going to completely ignore!"

Every time I think people's comments can sink any lower, somehow some of you succeed in reaching a new level. The irony it is that you are whining about how bad the chapter is while your own comments are even less worth. Whining for the sake of whining, being oblivious to the fact that you're producing nonsensical BS. Then just shut up.
I see the damage control is strong with this one.
People are ignorant, because Erza's fights always have the same pattern.
-Trouble
-Friendship
-Victory
Erza vs Kyoka is a good example

And we were expecting that Ajeel's defeat would have been better than that. Laxus vs Ajeel was kinda shown and people were hoping to see some new stuff but we got the same old Erza Crap. And what is this kind of base where an Admin takes position to the criticism of others? Calling it ignorant/stupid/Bs. As criticism concerning "Literatur" is always subjective.

Acting all cool because you are the admin and believing that your opinion might be better than others, isn't automatically the right to be so rude towards others.

Someone else would have gotten an infraction for that kind of post.

Besides people never doubted on Erza's victory. They were disappointed.
 
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I see the damage control is strong with this one.
People are ignorant, because Erza's fights always have the same pattern.
-Trouble
-Friendship
-Victory
Erza vs Kyoka is a good example

And we were expecting that Ajeel's defeat would have been better than that. Laxus vs Ajeel was kinda shown and people were hoping to see some new stuff but we got the same old Erza Crap. And what is this kind of base where an Admin takes position to the criticism of others? Calling it ignorant/stupid/Bs. As criticism concerning "Literatur" is always subjective.

Acting all cool because you are the admin and believing that your opinion might be better than others, isn't automatically the right to be so rude towards others.

Someone else would have gotten an infraction for that kind of post.

Besides people never doubted on Erza's victory. They were disappointed.
All I'm saying is that erza should be half dead or not able to move after defeating ajeel
 

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Okay I'm not gonna fake her victory was different (for once), honestly would of preferred Wendy do some godly wind attack to save Erza or like clear the storm.

Still can't say I enjoyed it or had some type of excitement, why? Cause like Majin stated it's the same get wrecked, nakama speech, gg. You can argue that with almost every ft fight, but when it comes to Erza's battles, you gotta take a moment to side eye her. Shit at least other characters have lost 1-3 fights but it's like it kills hiro to let Erza lose.
 

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An okay chapter.

Erza defeated Ajer? Okay, she defeated with help from Bisca. Main problem is that Mashima overhyped Spriggans. I was talking that Spriggans should be portrayed to be as strong as Saints of Ishgars (with some of them being on level of Ishgar Gods) and we could have Iber and August in different league. But Mashima agains overyhuped enemy and make them above Ishgar God level. All that Ajeel is stronger than God Serena, Ajeel can take whole Fiore etc was pretty much BS.

Makarov, Gildarts, Laxus, Erza, Gray, Natsu (with possibility of Mira and Gajeel) should be capable of taking on Spriggan alone or with some help like Erza received.
 

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I see the damage control is strong with this one.
People are ignorant, because Erza's fights always have the same pattern.
-Trouble
-Friendship
-Victory
Erza vs Kyoka is a good example

And we were expecting that Ajeel's defeat would have been better than that. Laxus vs Ajeel was kinda shown and people were hoping to see some new stuff but we got the same old Erza Crap. And what is this kind of base where an Admin takes position to the criticism of others? Calling it ignorant/stupid/Bs. As criticism concerning "Literatur" is always subjective.

Acting all cool because you are the admin and believing that your opinion might be better than others, isn't automatically the right to be so rude towards others.

Someone else would have gotten an infraction for that kind of post.

Besides people never doubted on Erza's victory. They were disappointed.
1st of all, this wasnt your regular patterned erza fight
If you were expecting azir to be defeated by laxus, then yeah you must be dissapointed, but thats a different issue, erza had already started fighting azir like 2 chapter before, and Laxus is saved for a stronger opponent, I dont wanna see Laxus fighting a mid tier opponent, he is the strongest from FT right now.And this was not the same erza fight like I said
As for Caliburn's post ,there is a reason he posts like that, its bcoz FT section was full of trolls and haters during the gmg and tartarus arc, loads of spam and insults happened, so he is strict towards haters who whine for absolutely no reason.I think thats probably the reason
 

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I don't understand why people can't accept the fact that Azir lost.

1st, its not true that Erza won the match all by herself.
She got help from Lucy who knocked off Brandish' assistant. That guy who has the ability to null magic within his range that's why Erza was able to use requip again.
Natsu created an opening for her when he threw Azir's assistant giving Erza a chance to land a serious hit on him
Bisca used the light that Erza created to locate the enemy and fired Jupiter and landed a hit on Azir who "had already been hit by Erza's sword" not to mention that "Azir was maintaining a spell that was covering the whole city" and I can only assume that a spell of that magnitude must've required so much energy and making him unable to focus sand on a certain spot making him unable to block Jupiter just like how he did previously.

2nd, its not true that Erza pulls out random armours. We've already seen her use elemental armours before. Just watch 1vs 100 and you would see it there she was making combinations as well. Nakagami was not new. Water armour wasn't new so I don't find it too surprising if she's got elemental swords as well.

3rd, erza admitted Azir was superior than her.

4th, it only makes sense for me why Laxus did not fight Azir. I mean we still have how many spriggans left? And to send out a fairy of Laxus caliber during this early stage of the war isn't really a wise move for me. August even mentioned before that they would've already lost him (Azir) if that Laxus-Azir fight had continued.

Just my opinion
 

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Wind armour is new, water armour was already there, its been shown in the anime, morning star was already introduced too, so yeah she mixed her sets of armour which she has already shown to do in anime original fight against 100 monsters
You cannot mix armor nor swords, that concept was not hinted nor stated to be existing, erza did have a water armor but it didn't look the same in anyway , it's clearly obvious that it's a new armor not a combo. What you're currently doing is just merely forcing poorly made theory in place where it clearly won't fit.
♥ Erza is Boss, i love her. ♥



Well, it was said long ago that she has over 100 armors. It's common sense to think & know they're all different, & provide her great diversity.

She's prepared for all types of situations. Smart.
This is irrelevant. We are complaining about the fact that her armors are always convenient for all kinds of situations, she can basically deal with every substance by having an armor for it exclusively and what's even more funny is that most of them are rarely even seen again, this is about poor writing and cliche event progession, not whether it is consistent or not
 

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It really is hard to accept that Ajeel was defeated that easily. These two pages are all I need to explain how terrible his defeat is. [ ] [ ]

 
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Congratulations. This is what I call a bunch of whiners who are whining for the sake of whining and in their hurry to whine as much as possible showed how ignorant and completely oblivious they actually are and don't even realize it.

Erza's magic is based on storing weapons in a magical armory that she can access at any time. With other words this magic is as basic as they come, there is nothing special about it. However if she would just use regular weapons, that wouldn't make her much different from a regular soldier. The biggest advantage of her magic is that she can store a large variety of weapons and armors which she then can summon for specific situations. There is nothing hax of special about it, this is an ability as simple as they come, but highly efficient. That's the entire point of her magic and most of her weapons are all what you could expect. She used fire, water, lighting, speed, power etc. types before whenever it was needed. Using an armour or weapon that gives you an advantage over the magic of your opponent, that's the strongest point of her magic and there is nothing OP or hax about it. That's just you finding petty excuses to whine again.

The Morning Star armour she used before, nothing new. Not sure whether she used the water sword, but she used water equipment before and Lucy also has some kind of water whip, so nothing new there either. Wind weapon? Not sure if she used it before, but if you have fire, water etc. based weapons, logically there will be wind-based ones too, so nothing there either. It would have been more illogical if she didn't have it.

And still you people are whining. Erza took down Azir? It was a team effort. Erza was about to die, but then used a simple, but efficient tactic to let Bisca know where she was, Bisca then hit Azir with a powerful magic canon. Erza then took advantage of the situation to finish the job. What? The Spriggans were supposed to be as strong as the Wizard Saints? Laxus took down a Wizard Saint. And it was already implied that not all Spriggans are completely equal. And it was also shown that Makarov was highly underestimating the current power of some of the FT wizards. And did you expect that none of the Spriggans would be beaten or something? You people aren't even aware that your comments are far more ridiculous, illogical and stupid than you make this chapter out to be. This is also this typical attitude of VS threads where people only think there is some kind of universal ranking of all characters in existence and that a character that is ranked lower can never beat one that is ranked higher. Get a reality check, that's not how it works.

Erza used water and wind type based weapons. That sand is weak to water, is something that is used in many series. She intentionally used weapons she knew would be advantageous against Azir. That's how her magic works, it's called being prepared and fighting intelligent. Agreed her Nakagami armour can be considered hax, but that's pretty much the only one and in this chapter she only used it to deal the final blow after applying a simple, but effective tactic together with Bisca.

Do you how some of you people actually sound? "Oh no, Erza used a water weapon, how convenient! And this for a mage whose magic is centered around using a large variety of magical weapons and armors! I'm so in shock about this revelation that I have to whine as much as possible! And oh no she beat one of twelve powerful evil characters! How is that possible! I was convinced that all the heroes would die and all the villains would be victorious! This makes no sense! And how could she have done that all alone, the fact that she received major help from another character I'm going to completely ignore!"

Every time I think people's comments can sink any lower, somehow some of you succeed in reaching a new level. The irony it is that you are whining about how bad the chapter is while your own comments are even less worth. Whining for the sake of whining, being oblivious to the fact that you're producing nonsensical BS. .
Or maybe, just maybe You need to learn how to accept opinions and criticism, forums are made to share point veiws whether they're accurate, I/logical, offensive or even "non-sensical", they all have the absolute right to be stated and shared if they aren't against the rules. If you haven't noticed, there's this very cool word on the title called "discussion". It is generally accepted that having protagonists in a constantly situation-advantageous state against antagonists is a sign of bad story writing, especially when it comes to fighting manga, we simply noted how erza has to always have a new armor that filps the obvious outcome to her advantage unrealistically in matter of minutes.



Smh whining about the so called"whiners" is even more pity that whining about the manga itself since what's you're currently whining about is the most worthless thing someone can bother thinking about aka an opinion.
 

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You cannot mix armor nor swords, that concept was not hinted nor stated to be existing, erza did have a water armor but it didn't look the same in anyway , it's clearly obvious that it's a new armor not a combo. What you're currently doing is just merely forcing poorly made theory in place where it clearly won't fit.


This is irrelevant. We are complaining about the fact that her armors are always convenient for all kinds of situations, she can basically deal with every substance by having an armor for it exclusively and what's even more funny is that most of them are rarely even seen again, this is about poor writing and cliche event progession, not whether it is consistent or not
Its shown in anime, if you are ignorant enough to not consider the anime, then its your problem, plus erza can summon different kind of swords in both her heaven wheel armor as well as red pants, there is nothing suggesting that she can't mix her armors.
Even if its a new armor, its basic elemental armor, she had already used element based armors before.Stop acting so butthurt
 
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