Base Sasuke has more chakra than Base Naruto....

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Never go full retard just give sasuke everything while you at it cuz u know u desperate when u want your fav to have everything
 

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Even Base Naruto without rikodou chakra has more chakra than Sasuke with rikodou chakra

Anyways,Post rikodou Chakra Naruto has Hashirama's cells which boosted his chakra and his own huge chakra reserves + Rikodou half chakra.

While sasuke only has Half Rikodou chakra + his Fodder level Chakra.So whose Chakra pool is bigger in base?
 

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some retard mind again. no surprise at all.

let me remind you this one to shut ur mouth again.
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Even Base Naruto without rikodou chakra has more chakra than Sasuke with rikodou chakra

Anyways,Post rikodou Chakra Naruto has Hashirama's cells which boosted his chakra and his own huge chakra reserves + Rikodou half chakra.

While sasuke only has Half Rikodou chakra + his Fodder level Chakra.So whose Chakra pool is bigger in base?
bold. never go full retard son, never go full retard

and sasuke got some of hashiramas cells as well dumbass
 

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The only reason uchihas are able to create and maintain susanoo is because their bodies are made for and used to it. That is shown in how quickly reserves will be drained from using the sharingan if they aren't an uchiha
 

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Even Base Naruto without rikodou chakra has more chakra than Sasuke with rikodou chakra

Anyways,Post rikodou Chakra Naruto has Hashirama's cells which boosted his chakra and his own huge chakra reserves + Rikodou half chakra.

While sasuke only has Half Rikodou chakra + his Fodder level Chakra.So whose Chakra pool is bigger in base?
Sasuke have Hashirama's chakra and DNA too so what are you talking about?
 

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Using Susanoo as a proof is not right. Susanoo was a user chakra manifestation that depends on user chakra power/potency and not size. EMS Sasuke have greater chakra power than MS Sasuke thus can created full body Susanoo.

The only method to compare their chakra reserve is by creating Shadow clones. Remember Senju Hashirama and Tobirama sure got high chakra reserve bcus they are Senju but Tobirama can only created few clones compared to Hashirama while maintaining Red Sun barrier.
 
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Barring Sage chakra and Bijuu upgrades: Naruto's base chakra was never special. The seal was designed to let Kurama's chakra leak and naturally mix with his - a fact repeated twice in the manga by Jiraiya and the frog. So, if any fans here assume that his base chakra is all that, then they are fooling themselves.

Naruto's base reserves are nowhere near the likes of Karin, Nagato, Kisame, Hashirama and Tobirama etc. No where near them. There is nothing in the manga to counter the statement that Sasuke doesn't possess more chakra, when Uchihas were known to have large reserves. Obito puts it quite explicitly.

Itachi, someone with poor stamina compared to the rest, after crow clones (that use up mostly half the chakra of the user) used Amaterasu twice, Tsukuyomi, Katon techs and maintained V4 Susano'o long enough to fight, decapitate snake heads and seal Orochimaru and still bid farewell to his brother. When we all know how incrediably taxing Amaterasu, Tsukuomi and Susano'o are at MS level.

This Naruto possessing far more base reserves than Sasuke is never backed by the manga. A fan perpetuated nonsense.

Yes, the manga does state that seal was designed to let Kurama's chakra leak and naturally mix with his. But the manga also tell us the amount of chakra he gained from Kurama. The seal toad stated Naruto gains a tiny bit - - A tiny bit over years still only equals to a tiny bit. Jiraiya nor the frog has ever credited Kurama for Naruto's huge amount chakra. The frog stated Naruto only gains a tiny bit. The reason the 4th designed the seal that way was to allow Naruto's body to get use to using the Kurama's chakra, not to increase his base chakra. If Naruto's needs more chakra he can access Kurama's.

You claim Naruto's base chakra was never special, yet the manga proves he wrong. Part 1 Naruto, who chakra control skills sucked, was able to create 1000 shadow clones using his base chakra.

Part 2 Naruto during his wind training created a shadow clone for every single leave in this tree - There are more than 10,000 leaves in that tree. Naruto conducted that training for hours.

In later parts of his training Kakashi had training train for a full day with 200 clones all trying to create wind rasengan - - That means they would create a rasengan and then try to manipulate the wind to chakra. So when they failed they would have to start over. The only reason Naruto was limit to 200 clones was because of the chakra control difficulty level.

We have never seen Sasuke do anything close to that with his base charka. The uchiha clan was known for having powerful chakra, not large amounts of chakra. That's why Itachi was able to perform all those jutsu.

You claim the manga doesn't support Naruto having more base chakra than Sasuke, yet you haven't provided any evidence supporting Sasuke have more base charka than Naruto. In reality there is plenty to support Naruto having more base chakra.
 
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Sasuke can dimension hop multiple times without feeling tired. (Boruto Movie) He definitely has more chakra than Base Naruto w/o any enhancements.
 

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Sasuke can dimension hop multiple times without feeling tired. (Boruto Movie) He definitely has more chakra than Base Naruto w/o any enhancements.

No proof whatsoever Naruto couldn't do the same if he had a rinnegan. Ask yourself this, could Sasuke use multishadow clones with his base chakra when he was onlly 13 years old? Bear in mind he could only create 2 chidoris a day at that point.
 

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No proof whatsoever Naruto couldn't do the same if he had a rinnegan. Ask yourself this, could Sasuke use multishadow clones with his base chakra when he was onlly 13 years old? Bear in mind he could only create 2 chidoris a day at that point.

Irrelevant question to ask considering this isn't Sasuke at 13 years old vs. Naruto at 13 yrs old. This is Current Sasuke and Current Naruto, and Sasuke's chakra feats surpass Base Naruto's, namely him being able to create a chakra construct that is the same exact size as Naruto's Avatar.
 

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The question is can sasuke create 1000 thousand shadows clones just using his base chakra and then carry on like its nothing
 

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Irrelevant question to ask considering this isn't Sasuke at 13 years old vs. Naruto at 13 yrs old. This is Current Sasuke and Current Naruto, and Sasuke's chakra feats surpass Base Naruto's, namely him being able to create a chakra construct that is the same exact size as Naruto's Avatar.

Susano is a different kind of jutsu. Ashura avatar is a pure chakra construct. An exhausted, Aids infected Itachi could form a v3 susano. I see no reason why Naruto wouldn't be able to form PS if he had EMS. Even Kakashi was able to do it. Also I used their kid versions because chakra quantity increases naturally with age. If Naruto had more chakra as a kid, he has more chakra as an adult
 

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Please no Narutards will begin calling us Sasuke fans illogical due to this thread...
 

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Susano is a different kind of jutsu. Ashura avatar is a pure chakra construct. An exhausted, Aids infected Itachi could form a v3 susano. I see no reason why Naruto wouldn't be able to form PS if he had EMS. Even Kakashi was able to do it. Also I used their kid versions because chakra quantity increases naturally with age. If Naruto had more chakra as a kid, he has more chakra as an adult

No, it's not. They are both made of pure chakra. When it comes to composition they are exactly the same. Kurama Avatar is a pure chakra construct. Susanoo is a pure chakra construct. V3 Susanoo and Perfect Susanoo for one, are worlds and worlds apart when it comes to chakra cost. Second of all, the disease affected his stamina, not his chakra. If he can make a Susanoo then he has a lot of chakra. Kakashi only made PS after getting Obito's power and Rikudo's power.

Bold is bad logic. Yes, chakra quantity increases naturally. Doesn't mean that Sasuke and Naruto's chakra quantity has the same growth rate and peak.
 

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No, it's not. They are both made of pure chakra. When it comes to composition they are exactly the same. Kurama Avatar is a pure chakra construct. Susanoo is a pure chakra construct. V3 Susanoo and Perfect Susanoo for one, are worlds and worlds apart when it comes to chakra cost. Second of all, the disease affected his stamina, not his chakra. If he can make a Susanoo then he has a lot of chakra. Kakashi only made PS after getting Obito's power and Rikudo's power.

Bold is bad logic. Yes, chakra quantity increases naturally. Doesn't mean that Sasuke and Naruto's chakra quantity has the same growth rate and peak.
Can Naruto form a chakra cloak the size of a v3 susano? No. Does that mean a sick Itachi has more chakra? Of course not. It's not possible to form a chakra construct like that without biju chakra. Susano is a sharingan jutsu. Give Naruto a sharingan and he'll use PS with his base chakra no problem. Naruto had about 3-4 times more chakra than Sasuke to begin with. There's literally no proof whatsoever that Sasuke's chakra quantity skyrocketted and surpassed Naruto's. He's the yin side of the coin. His specialty lies in chakra quality
 
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Yes, the manga does state that seal was designed to let Kurama's chakra leak and naturally mix with his. But the manga also tell us the amount of chakra he gained from Kurama. The seal toad stated Naruto gains a tiny bit - - A tiny bit over years still only equals to a tiny bit. Jiraiya nor the frog has ever credited Kurama for Naruto's huge amount chakra. The frog stated Naruto only gains a tiny bit. The reason the 4th designed the seal that way was to allow Naruto's body to get use to using the Kurama's chakra, not to increase his base chakra. If Naruto's needs more chakra he can access Kurama's.

You claim Naruto's base chakra was never special, yet the manga proves he wrong. Part 1 Naruto, who chakra control skills sucked, was able to create 1000 shadow clones using his base chakra.

Part 2 Naruto during his wind training created a shadow clone for every single leave in this tree - There are more than 10,000 leaves in that tree. Naruto conducted that training for hours.

In later parts of his training Kakashi had training train for a full day with 200 clones all trying to create wind rasengan - - That means they would create a rasengan and then try to manipulate the wind to chakra. So when they failed they would have to start over. The only reason Naruto was limit to 200 clones was because of the chakra control difficulty level.

We have never seen Sasuke do anything close to that with his base charka. The uchiha clan was known for having powerful chakra, not large amounts of chakra. That's why Itachi was able to perform all those jutsu.

You claim the manga doesn't support Naruto having more base chakra than Sasuke, yet you haven't provided any evidence supporting Sasuke have more base charka than Naruto. In reality there is plenty to support Naruto having more base chakra.

Those clones were made with base chakra, when Yamato was brought it specifically to make sure Naruto didn't end up overusing Kurama's chakra - thus, keeping it suppressed?

Nowhere in the manga is it claimed that Uchihas don't have large reserves. In fact, the manga makes it clear that they do:

Databook III:

Uchiha symbol
Caption: The Uchiha clan of the Sharingan

Text: Sole opposition to the proudly unrivaled Senju clan, they possessed Sharingan and massive chakra pools. The Mangekyou Sharingan of their chief - Uchiha Madara - would leave shinobi on the battlefield in tremor.

Manga:

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Uzumakis were only known for longitivity. Nowhere in the manga is it caimed that they had large reserves. In fact, Naruto isn't even a pure Uzumaki, as proven by his fatal reaction to Kurama extraction, when Kushina was actually killed and would have survived longer. Not to mention Kishi's direct slap in the face of all those 'Naruto has Uzumaki traits' nonsense:

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I have no idea where this 'Uchihas don't have large reserves' bullshit even springs from, when the author has disagreed explicitly. Not to mention that fact that Kakashi has pointed it out more than once that the reasons behind Naruto's good stamina and chakra is Kyuubi.

That isn't proof enough for you? But okay, man.
 
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Those clones were made with base chakra, when Yamato was brought it specifically to make sure Naruto didn't end up overusing Kurama's chakra - thus, keeping it suppressed?

No where in the manga is it claimed that Uchiha don't have large reserves. In fact, the manga makes it clear that they do. Not to mention that fact that Kakashi has pointed it out more than once that the reasons behind Naruto's good stamina and chakra is Kyuubi.

But okay, man.

Actually a jinchuriki's chakra normally keeps the bijuu's in check. Naruto's training method was chakra intensive. Yamato was there incase he uses too much of his own chakra. If that happens Kurama's chakra will be free to take over. That's why Yamato was needed. At that point in the story Naruto had already made up his mind to rely on kurama. He wouldn't and didnt use kurama's chakra
 
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