[Discussion] Is Christianity Moral...?

[Multiply]

You are immoral
stop posting things like this

How is posting this immoral?

 

[ComplexCity]

The Bible is probably one of the most evil texts in history imo. I think it's worse than Mein Kampf and makes Hitler look like a saint.

Just because you're ignorant to it, doesn't make it evil



OT: It's where morality originated

 

[Multiply]

Just because you're ignorant to it, doesn't make it evil



OT: It's where morality originated

Yeah because there were no morals before the bible. You're tripping.

 

[Phact]

How is posting this immoral?

You are making fun of Christians and asking if Christianity is immoral

 

[ComplexCity]

Yeah because there were no morals before the bible. You're tripping.

Oh didn't notice this was Inanimated.



So where did these so called morals originate if not the bible?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

a quote of man, you even say yourself man decided which ones were accruate.

Staw man much? I quoted someone online who has done their research. Not something he pulled out of his ass. As he is outright quoting first hand content to make his point.

they did not pick 4 for accuracy they picked the 4 that best suited there agenda,

The 4 gospels are actually first hand writing lol? How the heck are they going suited their agenda thats not going to support their agenda you speak of.

a council of MAN decided which of gods words are most accurate? do you see the contradiction lol?

How the heck is this a contradiction. They picked first hand content. Do you know what first-hand means? You can't discredit first hand content. Otherwise you need to go back to History class. Or dont listen to History at all, since you could argue all of it is a lie. But sources was as crucial then as it is now.

the proof is the 40 plus ignored gospels, and the hundreds of languages the bible comes it, and ever hear of a king james bible? why do you think that is famous? its because the king controversially shaped it to his views under the guise of being the a better english translated bible.

They were ignored BECAUSE they HAVE NO Creditably, yet alone first nor second hand content. The only thing king james did was start his own translation. He did not temper with orignal content. This isnt Islam were they dont even know they even have second hand or third hand and just accept it to what it is.

and you did not address proving which of the 40 gospels are accurate, a council of rich men did hundreds of years ago,

Scriptures showed their content was first hand. So they did the right thing picking first hand sources.

not a single god among them, and they picked the gospels that brought the most converters its a fact that Christianity even adopted pagan rituals like Christmas so that more pagans would convert, that is twisting gods words.

Wrong: first hand content means they pick the letters that were with Jesus personally. Wrote and heard what they saw and experience. They literally only picked Jesus's disciples for the content of the Bible Lol.

Who cares if they adopted Christmas? And how is it twisting God's words? It will be twisting if they practice the actually pagan ritual itself and not make it out of celebrating God himself. Just like if you were to take rap and make it into Christian rap. Same concept.

the message of jesus was overlooked, he simply wanted to show we can love and live in peace, but humans maade it about who he was, if hes god, what the jews think, what the Christians think, there was so much hearsay and conflict over it, it was a struggle for power, because these people who have been using gods name for power all of a sudden have a threat to their security and that threat was "gods son" appearing, they didnt wanna lose there power, they didnt care about his message, they only cared about keeping what they had so yea, alot of Christians missed the point of loveing and living in peace.

Your research is piss poor, sorry. First hand content shows that Jesus was claiming to be God and tried to prove it. First hand content shows that Jews didnt think Jesus was, and thought was blasphemous. Which is why they put him to trial for death. No one had power during Jesus time, but Rome. Your @Bold is generalizing fallacy and not worth a reply.

if you still cant seem to grasp the concept that man has been dishonest and greedy and twisted the message of love Jesus brought us, than i suggest you re read the first post i made on this thread, and than the second, third ect. repeat.

The only thing I grasp is that you have done poor research on this.

because i cant make my perspective much clearer than i have, not untill your willing to do some further research on your own. its clear you dont care enough to find out the real story of how the gospels were picked, or about all the man and women executed or exiled for there versions of the gospel. or about the ridiculously large group of people who have died in the name of god, but god didnt tell them to die for him. the pope and his cardinals, and the writers of the gospels told those people to die for him. The words of god was opinionated, than manipulated, thn translated, and than manipulated again.

@Bold: Irony tbh. All you have done was pull crap out of your arse. Not once did you provide or quote proof to present your case.

its quite simple, you cant prove those words are straight from gods mouth and you
cant prove which of these words from century's of popes are real, but i can prove that the love jesus spoke of is real.

heres another way to explain it

Did god really speak to us? no way to know for sure.

Does love exist? Yes it does.

need another? well I have faith you can articulate that one your self

That makes no sense.

 

[ComplexCity]

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Question, you don't believe in the lost books. So why are they referred to in the bible? Curious

 

[Multiply]

You are making fun of Christians and asking if Christianity is immoral

When did I make fun of Christianity or Christians...?

Oh didn't notice this was Inanimated.



So where did these so called morals originate if not the bible?

Morals are a social construct and they vary. What do you think occurred in the world before Christianity?

 

[ComplexCity]

Morals are a social construct and they vary. What do you think occurred in the world before Christianity?

I asked for the origin, when did we gain the intelligence to say what is right and wrong? This statement is also flawed, by this logic, the morality that the Jihad follow is ok right?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

When did I make fun of Christianity or Christians...?



Morals are a social construct and they vary. What do you think occurred in the world before Christianity?

My response to you was post #30

Question, you don't believe in the lost books. So why are they referred to in the bible? Curious

Can you prove it?

 

[ComplexCity]

My response to you was post #30



Can you prove it?

Prove what? How they are linked to the bible? How it says in the bible that all scripture in the books are of God? Or how the bible refers to one of the lost books? I just asked why you don't believe them

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Prove what? How they are linked to the bible? How it says in the bible that all scripture in the books are of God? Or how the bible refers to one of the lost books? I just asked why you don't believe them

I miss took your point, as I thought, you assumed I thought they took stuff out of the bible.

Anyway, Im sure your referring to the book of jasher and stuff from the old testament? Or do you have reference done in the New Testament?

 

[ethris]

Staw man much? I quoted someone online who has done their research. Not something he pulled out of his ass. As he is outright quoting first hand content to make his point.



The 4 gospels are actually first hand writing lol? How the heck are they going suited their agenda thats not going to support their agenda you speak of.



How the heck is this a contradiction. They picked first hand content. Do you know what first-hand means? You can't discredit first hand content. Otherwise you need to go back to History class. Or dont listen to History at all, since you could argue all of it is a lie. But sources was as crucial then as it is now.



They were ignored BECAUSE they HAVE NO Creditably, yet alone first nor second hand content. The only thing king james did was start his own translation. He did not temper with orignal content. This isnt Islam were they dont even know they even have second hand or third hand and just accept it to what it is.





Scriptures showed their content was first hand. So they did the right thing picking first hand sources.




Wrong: first hand content means they pick the letters that were with Jesus personally. Wrote and heard what they saw and experience. They literally only picked Jesus's disciples for the content of the Bible Lol.

Who cares if they adopted Christmas? And how is it twisting God's words? It will be twisting if they practice the actually pagan ritual itself and not make it out of celebrating God himself. Just like if you were to take rap and make it into Christian rap. Same concept.



Your research is piss poor, sorry. First hand content shows that Jesus was claiming to be God and tried to prove it. First hand content shows that Jews didnt think Jesus was, and thought was blasphemous. Which is why they put him to trial for death. No one had power during Jesus time, but Rome. Your @Bold is generalizing fallacy and not worth a reply.



The only thing I grasp is that you have done poor research on this.




@Bold: Irony tbh. All you have done was pull crap out of your arse. Not once did you provide or quote proof to present your case.




That makes no sense.

if you still cant seem to grasp the concept that man has been dishonest and greedy and twisted the message of love Jesus brought us, than i suggest you re read the first post i made on this thread, and than the second, third ect. repeat.

 

[ComplexCity]

I miss took your point, as I thought, you assumed I thought they took stuff out of the bible.

Anyway, Im sure your referring to the book of jasher and stuff from the old testament? Or do you have reference done in the New Testament?

Not from the NT, I haven't studied that far yet, but I'm pretty sure there is

But I know there's the book of Jasher, the Book of Enoch, the Dead Sea Scrolls, The Apocrypha. Still waiting for your answer as well

if you still cant seem to grasp the concept that man has been dishonest and greedy and twisted the message of love Jesus brought us, than i suggest you re read the first post i made on this thread, and than the second, third ect. repeat.

Not to be a bum on your parade, but he's kinda right, what I've seen you posting is society's perception on what Christianity should be. What your saying isn't wrong but it isn't right either

 

[Multiply]

I asked for the origin, when did we gain the intelligence to say what is right and wrong? This statement is also flawed, by this logic, the morality that the Jihad follow is ok right?

How are you going to ask such a stupid question? Of course I can't tell you the literal date and time that morals were created and I can't tell you when someone said something is right and something was wrong. However, it's extremely obvious that morality predates the Christian religion.

What of the civilizations that predate Judaism and Christianity?

 

[ComplexCity]

How are you going to ask such a stupid question? Of course I can't tell you the literal date and time that morals were created and I can't tell you when someone said something is right and something was wrong. However, it's extremely obvious that morality predates the Christian religion.

What of the civilizations that predate Judaism and Christianity?

What part of my question is stupid? I didn't ask you to be specific, I just asked for the origin, why is that so hard for you answer? I also asked you in what part in the evolutionary cycle were we intelligible to distinguish right from wrong?


And again, I also ask. Based off your answer, who are we to say the morality of the Jihad is wrong?



To also answer your question, I'm pretty sure Noah and Moses existed before these tribes, but then again what's the point in even bringing that up when you'll just shoot it down anyway? I tend not to bring such points (religious) into discussions on NB anymore as they will just be ignored.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Not from the NT, I haven't studied that far yet, but I'm pretty sure there is.

But I know there's the book of Jasher, the Book of Enoch, the Dead Sea Scrolls, The Apocrypha. Still waiting for your answer as well

I feel like this website: Explains it best:

You must be registered for see links

, which goes for the other lost books.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

if you still cant seem to grasp the concept that man has been dishonest and greedy and twisted the message of love Jesus brought us, than i suggest you re read the first post i made on this thread, and than the second, third ect. repeat.

Ill grasp it when you can prove it. Otherwise dont waste my time, thinking you had an educated answer.

 

[ComplexCity]

I feel like this website: Explains it best:

You must be registered for see links

, which goes for the other lost books.

Doesn't really give me a clear view on your opinion Also



2 Timothy 3:16King James Version (KJV)

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:


Romans 15:4King James Version (KJV)

4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.


Can you explain these two verses for me as well?

 

[ethris]

Not from the NT, I haven't studied that far yet, but I'm pretty sure there is

But I know there's the book of Jasher, the Book of Enoch, the Dead Sea Scrolls, The Apocrypha. Still waiting for your answer as well




Not to be a bum on your parade, but he's kinda right, what I've seen you posting is society's perception on what Christianity should be. What your saying isn't wrong but it isn't right either

I was just answering a guys follow up question when the dude jumped in out of no where lol ive answered enough but if you did read what i was saying

youd see that i wasnt even talking about people being right or wrong, i was talking about the fact that jesus christ had a meaning of living like he did, threw love and peace/ im not even a christian lol. but the meaning of that story was indeed moral. and jesus never claimed to be a king or god thats a fact. but all the people of that time, who had power in gods name, were threatened, and it made the moral of the story, love and peace, be overlooked. but e seems to be confused about who jesus and god are. they are differnt. and Kings have been made into kings threw the pope, the pope got that right from god apparently.and i cant prove that the pope had the right to speak for god, the only ones who can confirm it are also men. not god. but this love, which is the moral of the story of jesus, that i can understand and prove, because everyone experiences love atleast once. i wonder what it is you guys even think im disagreeing or agreeing with, becaue my answers werent about that lol. its clear christianity has swayed from the message other wise divorce wouldnt be a thing

eventually it seemed to be about if the 4 gospels chosen were accurate, but maybe he fails to realize its not about those 4 being accurate, its about why the other 40 are being considered not accurate, man chose which to believe, and if they were willing to exile and execute certain gospel writers, and willing to accept pagan traditions to bring in converters than why should i trust that man got the bible right? or the gospels or the commandments? all i can trust is the moral of the story, which is to be peaceful and love eachother. its really kinda simple,

but i do believe the story of jesus is about love, religion is about worship and Christianity has been manipulated for power, those things are facts.

and the rest of what im saying cant be wrong cause its not like that, either way i never claimed my word was cannon ...like so many of the christian leaders have, which is another fact.

retorts like who cares dont motivate me to reply to him