Kakashi vs Itachi

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Damn this guy is retarded. He just ****ing proved it. Did you even bother to read the damn post?

What did he prove?

Ama spawning on target?

WE ALL KNOW THAT.

Did he prove ama is instant? Nope.

Did he explain why ay dodged it?

Nope.

Yet his word is bond. Lmfao.
 

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in·di·ca·tion
ˌindəˈkāSH(ə)n/
noun
a sign or piece of information that indicates something.

And there's no sign or piece of information that indicated the speed of Amaterasu can be controlled.

Not that it matters because I conceded that Amaterasu isn't a projectile.

-Understands (I hope) that spawning it directly on Sasuke would be stupid.
-Understands Itachi's purpose was to weaken Sasuke completely so he could be freed of Orochimaru.
-Sees how Amaterasu traveled in that chapter.
-Still claims there's no indication.

Not necessarily. Amaterasu spawning on Sasuke isn't stupid when taking into consideration that Itachi knew that Sasuke had Orochimaru's abilities meaning that he had already intended on Sasuke to use Oral Rebirth to consume a lot of chakra and it's certainly been implied that Itachi's ability to predict events in advance and react accordingly is superb. Amaterasu usage on Sasuke still would've played in perfectly with Itachi's intentions of weakening Sasuke.

The possibilty of Itachi's lack of focus on Sasuke could've stemmed from Itachi's vision's deterioration as Kakashi's ability to focus on Juubidara's Gudodama also diminished when his vision was deteriorating.

I don't even know why I replied to your post in the first place. Forget how dumb ya'll get when Itachi is being discussed. :lol

I don't know why either because I already conceded.

Your scan.

-assumes Itachi must be looking at Sasuke even though not focusing directly on him the whole time is just as possible.

Your proof
We're still looking

Way to dumb things down and put words in my mouth. My point was that Itachi's vision was directed at Sasuke as the panels indicated it. There was no indication that his focus was shifted away from Sasuke for even a moment. I already explained why a possiblity of why Amaterasu didn't spawn on Sasuke as easy as it should have is because of Itachi's vision deteriorating.
 

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The possibilty of Itachi's lack of focus on Sasuke could've stemmed from Itachi's vision's deterioration as Kakashi's ability to focus on Juubidara's Gudodama also diminished when his vision was deteriorating.

I don't know why either because I already conceded.

Way to dumb things down and put words in my mouth. My point was that Itachi's vision was directed at Sasuke as the panels indicated it. There was no indication that his focus was shifted away from Sasuke for even a moment. I already explained why a possiblity of why Amaterasu didn't spawn on Sasuke as easy as it should have is because of Itachi's vision deteriorating.

This is so funny. This guy is actually making a case for focus being poor from Sharingan because of the failing sight, but clicked like for Benji's absurd post, when I made the exact same case?

Oh dear!
 

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This is so funny. This guy us actually making a case for focus being poor from Sharingan because of the failing sight, but clicked like for Benji's absurd post, when I made the exact same case?

Oh dear!

And yet no argument was made to refute my perspective.

I also liked your post, so it honestly had very little to do with Benji using a similar argument and more to do with the good points that both your bring up.
 

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And yet no argument was made to refute my perspective.

I also liked your post, so it honestly had very little to do with Benji using a similar argument and more to do with the good points that both your bring up.

Hey, you were not having an argument with me. I actually agree with this stance, as it IS explicitly shown that poor eyesight leads the focus astray. Kakashi getting an arm instead of a head would be one such example, along with Sasuke knocking a glass over - an incident that shows that his focus was poor, leading to Ae getting away.

You didn't have to. I just found it strange that Benji's absurdity is even worth indulging.
 

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Hey, you were not having an argument with me. I actually agree with this stance, as it IS explicitly shown that poor eyesight leads the focus astray. Kakashi getting an arm instead of a head would be one such example, along with Sasuke knocking a glass over - an incident that shows that his focus was poor, leading to Ae getting away.

You didn't have to. I just found it strange that Benji's absurdity is even worth indulging.

Oh, sorry if I misunderstood then.

I'm just intrigued by your guys's arguments.
 

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Not that it matters because I conceded that Amaterasu isn't a projectile.
Didn't refresh before I replied so I missed your concession.



Not necessarily. Amaterasu spawning on Sasuke isn't stupid when taking into consideration that Itachi knew that Sasuke had Orochimaru's abilities meaning that he had already intended on Sasuke to use Oral Rebirth to consume a lot of chakra and it's certainly been implied that Itachi's ability to predict events in advance and react accordingly is superb. Amaterasu usage on Sasuke still would've played in perfectly with Itachi's intentions of weakening Sasuke.

The possibilty of Itachi's lack of focus on Sasuke could've stemmed from Itachi's vision's deterioration as Kakashi's ability to focus on Juubidara's Gudodama also diminished when his vision was deteriorating.
I can agree with this.
 

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Didn't refresh before I replied so I missed your concession.




I can agree with this.

You're good. Didn't mean to come off as angry or pushy, but I can see how I did.
 
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Ima give number 2 to Kakashi also since MS techs will royally mess Itachi up, regardless of sickness. We seen it with Sasuke. He'll have a few moments where he falters/goes blind/collapses to his knees and he's done.

3 throws me off a bit since well...is it Kakashi & Itachi just as they got their 3T or the latest they were alive with 3T.

Just did a few quick simulations in my head & only read page 1. Sorry if it's wrong. Don't start flinging shit at the walls.

Edit: Feel like I have to mention that I didn't bring in tsukuyomi into the equation as much as I usually would because as far as I know from various threads.

It takes 3T with hatred and good skill/xp or MS to counter it. Either that or Itachi let Sasuke out of tsukuyomi and he's an excellent actor at faking fatigue.
 
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Let's clear this once and for all. Amaterasu is instant. You can dodge it only by making your opponent lose his focus on you like A did. Kamui isn't instant but vert fast. Finally Amaterasu is a short range jutsu only and Kamui is all range. :)
 
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Kakashi 100% takes number 1

Ima give number 2 to Kakashi also since MS techs will royally mess Itachi up, regardless of sickness. We seen it with Sasuke. He'll have a few moments where he falters/goes blind/collapses to his knees and he's done.

3 throws me off a bit since well...is it Kakashi & Itachi just as they got their 3T or the latest they were alive with 3T.

Just did a few quick simulations in my head & only read page 1. Sorry if it's wrong. Don't start flinging shit at the walls.

Edit: Feel like I have to mention that I didn't bring in tsukuyomi into the equation as much as I usually would because as far as I know from various threads.

It takes 3T with hatred and good skill/xp or MS to counter it. Either that or Itachi let Sasuke out of tsukuyomi and he's an excellent actor at faking fatigue.

It's funny how Kakashi can bear and handle the ms better than full blooded uchiha by the war arc lol
 

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Amaterasu is NOT a projectile. It follows the line of sight AFTER it appears. Itachi warned Sasuke with clapping and he had a defense, unless you've forgotten.

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I wonder how the hell Amaterasu hit that Samurai if it weren't a Projectile? :lmao:
 
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