How often do police shoot white people to death? I find it strange that you would find every way possible to belittle the importance of your own race. Sounds like self hate to me. You're really not getting it and I don't know what will make you get it. If someone watches you get your ass beat everyday by their son and don't do shit about it after you begged them for lord knows how long, would you not try to get justice? Fix your mind man. It's sick. I don't know what's with you but we need Justice. You can kick back and thing life is jolly but the fact of the matter is when you walk in an expensive store, they're going to follow you. When you walk near the police, they'll profile you. Not all officers but a lot will. You can kee thinking life is jolly until an officer beats your ass because you grabbed an id that he told you to grab
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Apparently cops shoot white people alot according to the sources I provided you. But I guess they probably don't count to you since they're white.I'm not belittling the importance of my race or internalizing racism like you claim, but I guess to you I'd better turn in my Black Person license.
You've tricked yourself into thinking you're oppressed when you're not .I'm not kicking back and thinking life is jolly dude, if that was the case why did I just point out legitimate problems in the black community and offer far better solutions than "Justice or Else"?
I have yet to see the cops follow me into a store or follow me around town. What do mean by "grab an id" he told me to grab? If a officer is telling me to steal shit I'm probably reporting him, and if the law refuses to do something about it, I'll alert my fellow citizens to the fact that we're living in a society where cops will try and tell you to do bad shit but not get in trouble for it and urge those higher than them to fix this.
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Lol they didn't spread Islam through bloodshed. Yes they had a powerful army but that's not how they spreaded Islam.
Whatever man. This is like the tenth time I told you, but if you want to be lost in an abyss of ignorance that you're forcing yourself in, I no longer care. You can't say I didn't tell you
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Tenth you've told me what? I'm ignorant? Thats like the mentally handicapped kid calling the AP class a bunch of retards. But go ahead, ignore the arguments I just made and the ideas I brought up. You still never answered my question to what its called when a cop shoots a person of another race and what other reason would Lincoln have to go to war than to preserve the Union. But thats cool
You're clearly oppressed regardless of the facts and the evidence of the world we're living in at the moment.
Neither did the Holy Roman Empire then ... They just had big armies and wanted to defend their borders.
Which is what even the Christians did .... busted up others beliefs and then spread their Christianity. XD
Then Christians were persecuted extremely too ... Just look at Jesus. XD Oh Wait Jesus was the guy who had an army to fight people who wanted to defend their own faith.
Yeah of course they spread though example and peace ... Peaceful examples like the Shia Sunni Massacres and Battle of Karbala, and they was just with in the muslims. I am sure Non muslims got better treatment.
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Yeah 171 white men of 254,986,125, compared to 100 black men of 40,977,635. Really bruh? There is a definite problem of black men being murdered by the police. That isn't to say other races don't also get murdered by police officers, because they do. However we're specifically talking about the rise in mistreatment of black individuals in the US.
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I agree theres a problem of black men being killed by cops but thats true all across the board for every race. To say its limited to one race is ingenious and its a discussion we as a nation should be having about how the police operate and what we can do to stop or reduce these violent murders carried out by them.
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These are men who are supposed to be the arbiters of the law and protect us,yet they've become more a gang and I think its time we've stood as a nation and addressed this problem.
That isn't to say there isn't a problem in the prison and justice system which has shifted towards being for profit.
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We have 25% of the world's incarcerated population yet we only have 5% of the total population in the world.
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So the U.S managed to gain about 25% of the world's total incarcerated population off a minority that's only 12% of the total U.S population which makes up half of that 25%. Most of the crimes they're arrested for are drug related and prison in America is not working as a rehabilitation center like it should be, seeing as two-thirds of prisoners are likely to reoffend.
African Americans serve virtually as much time in prison for a drug offense (58.7 months) as whites do for a violent offense (61.7 months).
5 times as many Whites are using drugs as African Americans, yet African Americans are sent to prison for drug offenses at 10 times the rate of Whites.
Why? Because of these "Get tough on drugs" and "War on drug" policies we have, combined with a for profit prison system, have allowed for a justice system which is clearly unfair and should be fixed. Economic and social isolation have also contributed to this as well.
Why are prisons for profit? Because large businesses are allowed to influence our politicians and get them to pass laws which largely don't benefit us. This case is one that afflicts a particular portion of society
If we adapt a "We The People" type of model, I think we’ll be successful in our mission to bring about change.
Thats why they're giving drug offenders time in the double digits.
We need a movement that will clearly express these problems to the American public. Not one that has a leader that shouts crazy shit, then declares we have a enemy to fight, then says we need to separate like that'll be the end to everything.
The Justice or Else movement doesn't look like its addressing that problem or aiming to fix it. Why they think "separating" or this "or else", or trying to hit the American economy will magically fix these complex issues is beyond me.
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Hand up don't shoot! Amirite?
What a load of garbage that is/was
What have I told you people repeatedly? Power corrupts. Find me a group where that isn't the case.
Wow. You're racist
Showing your ignorant colors again. The title is obviously JUSTICE OR ELSE. The first key word is Justice. We're saying if we do not receive Justice than the or else happens. Yet you're so scared and focused on the or else you forgot about what will cause the or else.
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I maintain that all people are racist.
If the cops need to be brought to justice, why is the only cop who was being blatantly biased getting charged (Charleston)?
Don't attack cops, don't get killed
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"My name is Slim and I like to ignore or forget the details of events so I can and try and make a shitty argument!"
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Details of what event? The one in Ferguson when the kid got capped for rushing a cop?
What you morons fail to see is cops can't tell what you're thinking. Should he be charged for using lethal force in a scenario where he thought his life was in danger?
The garner case is different. What happens if Garner says 'i can't breathe', the officer lets him go and he attacks the cop?
You people don't understand the nature of the job.
What's ****ing ironic is that we are on a site about a comic in which police hatred happened and wasn't productive
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Attack an officer with 3 others there? Its to my understanding that the cop wasn't rushed. Theres a reoccurring theme in these incidents. The crimes being committed aren't ones you usually get killed over. The cop isn't Judge Dredd. The officer's job is to bring criminals in so that judgement can be passed upon them by their peers in a court of law.
Of course these officers should be charged for using lethal force. What sense does it make to kill an UNARMED suspect?
How is it a load of garbage? I agree marching doesn't accomplish much, but that's why I like Justice or else. There's some shit that will be done rather than just walking back and forth on a street while the privileged mock you.
Or else doesn't mean there will be violence. That's just how you interpret it.
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If "or Else" isn't violence, and its this economic boycott which seems like it'll be largely ineffective and this separating, its still a crazy notion that it'll fix any problems or lead to fixing any problem.
Thank You!!! Someone gets it!
For the people continuing to force themselves into ingorance, I said justice for black, brown, red, yellow, and poor white. Number 2 on the Nation Of Islams Muslim Program is " We want justice. Equal justice under the law. We want justice applied equally to all, regardless of creed or class or color."
It says regardless of creed or class or color. For those saying its racist and excluding justice for other people and its not only black people participating in Justice Or Else
Why wouldnt it fix the problem? If the governemnt wont recognize that we need justice then theyll be forced to recognized. This is simple logic. If someone turns a blind eye to you, you have to make them see you
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Are you seeing a magical thread between companies selling their products ,a vast majority of which are indifferent because their goal is to sell as many units as possible, not buying them will fix a problem?
The ones you should be aiming for aren't consumer grade businesses. There the ones that own prisons, oil companies, ones that actively push for laws that don't benefit the American public. The ones that push for harsh drug prohibition in America.
Boycotting Apple and Microsoft and etc etc won't really achieve much.
So your plan to get recognized is to rally against the wrong people with the wrong method? You seem to forget that we have the most powerful form of spreading information too. The internet.
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