Sasuke´s Rinnegan!!

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Then why you think they always want the two eye . why he has only one is body and stamina can't maintain it power . senju DNA needed
Those who possess the regular Rinnegan need two eyes to access the full power by completing the pair. Sasuke possesses the Tomoe Rinnegan which in itself is a pair just like Rinne Sharingan, and it is equivalent in power to the dual variant.

It's just wrong that people are will to speculate that sasuke can use the same thing as nagato, while using the term
"All rinnegan users can use six path techniques," however when push comes to shove, those same people will turn against their words and say people like Momkniski or Obito can't use six path techniques.

Worse part, there's nothing in the manga to back up this claim.
- Momoshiki's Rinnegan is a totally different thing. The general Rinnegan logic doesn't apply to Momoshiki's Rinnegan.
- Obito only has one eye (so he's lacking the pair), therefore he cannot use Six Paths techniques, at least not to their full extent unless he attains both eyes.

The only people who can be compared here are Sasuke, Madara and Nagato. Sasuke has a Tomoe Rinnegan which is basically equal to dual regular Rinnegan. And all of them can use all Six Paths techniques, they just have to be proficient in the usage of Rinnegan and the power of their chakra decides how powerful the technique will be.

You gradually adapt to the usage of Six Paths techniques, and as time passes and your experience with the dojutsu increases, you can use more and more techniques. That's the reason Nagato was able to use all techniques, whereas Sasuke and Madara didn't showcase the same number of techniques as him. But current Sasuke can probably use all techniques with unparalleled magnitude.
 

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- Momoshiki's Rinnegan is a totally different thing. The general Rinnegan logic doesn't apply to Momoshiki's Rinnegan.
- Obito only has one eye (so he's lacking the pair), therefore he cannot use Six Paths techniques, at least not to their full extent unless he attains both eyes.
1. It doesn't work like that, you(actually vs. section) don't make up what rinnegan can do what ability/path.
2. Sasuke has one eye too. And if Obito can't use the rinnegan, that means MS Obito can absorb chakra, summon gedo, use animal path, and use human path. Since he has one rinnegan and can't use it but Sasuke can for some unknown reason.


The only people who can be compared here are Sasuke, Madara and Nagato. Sasuke has a Tomoe Rinnegan which is basically equal to dual regular Rinnegan. And all of them can use all Six Paths techniques, they just have to be proficient in the usage of Rinnegan and the power of their chakra decides how powerful the technique will be.
I need a manga scan for this statement.
You gradually adapt to the usage of Six Paths techniques, and as time passes and your experience with the dojutsu increases, you can use more and more techniques. That's the reason Nagato was able to use all techniques, whereas Sasuke and Madara didn't showcase the same number of techniques as him. But current Sasuke can probably use all techniques with unparalleled magnitude.
No, he can't. He has his own different rinnegan abilities.
 
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1. It doesn't work like that, you(actually vs. section) don't make up what rinnegan can do what ability/path.
Dude, it doesn't take a whole lot to determine that Momoshiki's Rinnegan is not the general Rinnegan we're talking about.

1. It's red in color with a completely different functionality i.e. it's a different dojutsu only called the Rinnegan. The color itself tells this is a different dojutsu.
2. Plus, it is on the palm, serves a different function limited only to absorption and release. Ever seen Rinnegan on the palms?

2. Sasuke has one eye too. And if Obito can't use the rinnegan, that means MS Obito can absorb chakra, summon gedo, use animal path, and use human path. Since he has one rinnegan and can't use it but Sasuke can for some unknown reason.
Sasuke's one eye is different from Obito's one eye. It is a pair on its own.

I need a manga scan for this statement.
Manga proof: Sasuke can create CT on Madara's level with his Rinnegan for which Madara needed the other pair.
Common sense: Why do you think tomoes exist on his eyes if they are same as regular single Rinnegan?

No, he can't. He has his own different rinnegan abilities.
Yes, he can. All Rinnegan user have access to Six Paths techniques. The amount of unique abilities they have can be different in the ability and quantity of powers. Sasuke has two unique abilities Rinnegan Genjutsu and Amenotejikara, whereas Madara has Limbo. All of them have Six Paths techniques though.
 

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so far no..

only Madara Rinnegan used by him obito and nagato shown similar feats such as 6path ability

Sasuke Rinnegan can do Ameno only, his hand is prime example. We still dont know Hagromo Rinnegan ability is so far is COAT.
 

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Six Paths techniques is the basic Rinnegan jutsu that all users of the eye get. Those who are true owners of the eye get extra powers (like Rinbo and Amenotejikara) and amps to their jutsu.

Sasuke already demonstrated Deva and Petra. One of the Six Paths means you have them all.


It's just wrong that people are will to speculate that sasuke can use the same thing as nagato, while using the term
"All rinnegan users can use six path techniques," however when push comes to shove, those same people will turn against their words and say people like Momkniski or Obito can't use six path techniques.

Worse part, there's nothing in the manga to back up this claim.
There's no speculation, he was shown to be able to use Deva and Petra in the manga, two of the Six Paths. As the original owner of the eye, all of its base powers are granted to him, along with extra abilities unique only to him (thus why Madara is the only one with Rinbo and Sasuke with Amenotejikara).

Obito could use Human Path......

Someone needs to give the Manga a reread.
 
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Hagoromo gave Sasuke Rinnegan and anyone who thinks Sasuke can't Perform the techs that he wrote on tablet and left is high on methane

He already showed Deva,Preta and Outer path in 1 day so yes he can perform them
 

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He cant do 6 path technique like Madara Rinnegan but he can use Amenojikara and Space traveling with his Rinnegan, apparently similar to those Rinnesharingan from Kaguya.
Than I guess Sasuke didn't use Deva, Outer and Petra, wait.....

Six Paths techniques are the basic Rinnegan jutsu, all Rinnegan users have them.
 

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Than I guess Sasuke didn't use Deva, Outer and Petra, wait.....

Six Paths techniques are the basic Rinnegan jutsu, all Rinnegan users have them.
Sasuke no feats even at his strongest form means no. Rinnesharingan has no Rinnegan power characteristics it just kaguya own power and doujutsu. Sasuke do have some kaguya character with his tomoe rinnegan and feats.
 

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Dude, it doesn't take a whole lot to determine that Momoshiki's Rinnegan is not the general Rinnegan we're talking about.

1. It's red in color with a completely different functionality i.e. it's a different dojutsu only called the Rinnegan. The color itself tells this is a different dojutsu.
2. Plus, it is on the palm, serves a different function limited only to absorption and release. Ever seen Rinnegan on the palms?
But it's still a rinnegan. Madara is the only one with a regular Rinnegan like Hagoromoo. Momo has a red one and Sasuke has a one eyed tomoe one. And so fair, every person has shown different use of the eyes than the other person.


Sasuke's one eye is different from Obito's one eye. It is a pair on its own.
He awakened his new ocular powers with a sharingan on the right eye. And manga stated that the eyes show their true power when the original owner has both eyes. Nagato may have both eyes, but he is not the original owner. It's still different than Madara's set of techniques (which i listed in a thread before).

And that still doesn't explain Obito's case either.



Manga proof: Sasuke can create CT on Madara's level with his Rinnegan for which Madara needed the other pair.
Common sense: Why do you think tomoes exist on his eyes if they are same as regular single Rinnegan?
Madara's was undoubtedly bigger than Sasuke's. He was juubi jinchuuriki after all and he called them rain drops to his actual full potential. The tomoes represent the full power of his left eye. And we still can't jump to conclusions on what needs what.
Especially whe Madara said he can utilize full power with just one eye:
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Yes, he can. All Rinnegan user have access to Six Paths techniques. The amount of unique abilities they have can be different in the ability and quantity of powers. Sasuke has two unique abilities Rinnegan Genjutsu and Amenotejikara, whereas Madara has Limbo. All of them have Six Paths techniques though.
The manga never stated that Madara or Sasuke has Nagato's six path of pain's techniques.

That's how they differ.

Sasuke can't summon dead animals like pain or even summon dead humans like nagato too:
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So how can people say that they're the same?



There's no speculation, he was shown to be able to use Deva and Petra in the manga, two of the Six Paths. As the original owner of the eye, all of its base powers are granted to him, along with extra abilities unique only to him (thus why Madara is the only one with Rinbo and Sasuke with Amenotejikara).

Obito could use Human Path......

Someone needs to give the Manga a reread.
It's all speculation. He never used shrina tensei or bansho tenin.

As the original owner of his eyes=/= Using a non original owners techniques (nagato).
Every rinnegan user has their own unique doujustu techniques.

Obito never showed his human path.....

I don't need to re-read it, I've done it countless times.

If you wanna prove me wrong, you need to prove it with a manga scan.
 
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Those who possess the regular Rinnegan need two eyes to access the full power by completing the pair. Sasuke possesses the Tomoe Rinnegan which in itself is a pair just like Rinne Sharingan, and it is equivalent in power to the dual variant.



- Momoshiki's Rinnegan is a totally different thing. The general Rinnegan logic doesn't apply to Momoshiki's Rinnegan.
- Obito only has one eye (so he's lacking the pair), therefore he cannot use Six Paths techniques, at least not to their full extent unless he attains both eyes.

The only people who can be compared here are Sasuke, Madara and Nagato. Sasuke has a Tomoe Rinnegan which is basically equal to dual regular Rinnegan. And all of them can use all Six Paths techniques, they just have to be proficient in the usage of Rinnegan and the power of their chakra decides how powerful the technique will be.

You gradually adapt to the usage of Six Paths techniques, and as time passes and your experience with the dojutsu increases, you can use more and more techniques. That's the reason Nagato was able to use all techniques, whereas Sasuke and Madara didn't showcase the same number of techniques as him. But current Sasuke can probably use all techniques with unparalleled magnitude.
Sasuke don't have the all the path if he had he would be able to levitate and gravity controls
 

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Sasuke no feats even at his strongest form means no. Rinnesharingan has no Rinnegan power characteristics it just kaguya own power and doujutsu. Sasuke do have some kaguya character with his tomoe rinnegan and feats.
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Sasuke used Deva path, Petra and ****ing Outer Path in the Manga, that's three of the Six Paths. His eyes are a Rinnegan, Manga calls it a Rinnegan.
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Databook calls it a ****ING RINNEGAN! It is not Rinnesharingan, which only Kaguya has.

Sasuke's Rinnegan having Tomoe means nothing, Hagoromo has a Six Tomoe Rinnegan hovering behind him here.
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Hagoromo has Six Tomoe below him on the floor here.
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A representation of his power shows Six Tomoe.
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Guess what, Kaguya could use Rinnegan Genjutsu. And Sasuke was stated to be able to counter it only because he had a Rinnegan.


What were you saying again?
 
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But it's still a rinnegan. Madara is the only one with a regular Rinnegan like Hagoromoo. Momo has a red one and Sasuke has a one eyed tomoe one. And so fair, every person has shown different use of the eyes than the other person.
Momoshiki's Rinnegan being different in color clearly implies that it's a different dojutsu.

But Sasuke's Rinnegan is the same Rinnegan as Madara's. Only it's visual representation is different since it is in only one eye, so it is differentiated by the tomoes. The full power in regular Rinnegan is shown by having two eyes, whereas the full power in Tomoe Rinnegan is shown by having the tomoes in the Rinnegan. Therefore, the tomoes basically depicts that the Rinnegan is equivalent to dual eye. But they're the same dojutsus (only visually different).

He awakened his new ocular powers with a sharingan on the right eye. And manga stated that the eyes show their true power when the original owner has both eyes. Nagato may have both eyes, but he is not the original owner. It's still different than Madara's set of techniques (which i listed in a thread before).
He only has one eye. Just like Kaguya.

And that still doesn't explain Obito's case either.
Obito has the regular Rinnegan, so for it to be at full power, Obito needs both eyes. Sasuke having tomoes is enough because it implies that the user has power equivalent to both eyes.

Madara's was undoubtedly bigger than Sasuke's. He was juubi jinchuuriki after all and he called them rain drops to his actual full potential.
It was the same level technique. Of course, Madara's scale was different due to being Juubi Jin.

The tomoes represent the full power of his left eye.
Exactly. Just like having two eyes represent the full power of Madara's Rinnegan.

And we still can't jump to conclusions on what needs what.
It is a solo eye. It is independent of any other thing.

Especially whe Madara said he can utilize full power with just one eye:
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That wasn't the full "power". He was referring to the full range of abilities. If he could use full power with one Rinnegan, then why was he so desperate to get the other?

The manga never stated that Madara or Sasuke has Nagato's six path of pain's techniques.
The manga clearly stated that ALL Rinnegan users have a range of techniques called Six Paths techniques.

That's how they differ.
Those are the exclusive abilities.

Sasuke can't summon dead animals like pain or even summon dead humans like nagato too:
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He can if he wants to. He just didn't do it because he didn't feel the need.

So how can people say that they're the same?
They're same in the sense that they can utilize Six Paths techniques. All Rinnegans can.

Sasuke don't have the all the path if he had he would be able to levitate and gravity controls
Teen Sasuke didn't have all the Paths because he had a newly awakened Rinnegan, and accessing all Paths requires practice and proficiency with the dojutsu. But Adult Sasuke presumably has all Paths since he has mastered the Rinnegan, he just didn't showcase them, much like Madara.
 

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Momoshiki's Rinnegan being different in color clearly implies that it's a different dojutsu.
It doesn't work that way. And it's not a different doujustu, it's still a rinnegan. It just has a different design than Sasuke's and Madara. And the color its color is purple just like Madara's. It only turns red when being absorbing/repelling.

But Sasuke's Rinnegan is the same Rinnegan as Madara's. Only it's visual representation is different since it is in only one eye, so it is differentiated by the tomoes. The full power in regular Rinnegan is shown by having two eyes, whereas the full power in Tomoe Rinnegan is shown by having the tomoes in the Rinnegan. Therefore, the tomoes basically depicts that the Rinnegan is equivalent to dual eye. But they're the same dojutsus (only visually different).
It's not the same in terms of design, but a rinnegan is a rinnegan regardless. And Momo's was also purple when not being used.
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So like momo's, Sasuke's eyes are going to function a little bit different than Madara's.
We don't know if a dual eye will work in equivalence to a one tomoe eye because it was never stated anywhere in the manga, databook, or anime.

So as for me, I usually look at things through a very literal standpoint. Picking each phrase and word carefully. And it's just recently that I found out that most of the things in our minds are just opinions from other people.



He only has one eye. Just like Kaguya.
Kaguya has a sharingan (or a rinne-sharingan) not a rinnegan. She's a doujustu ahead of the rest and it requires a kekkai mora to have one.

Obito has the regular Rinnegan, so for it to be at full power, Obito needs both eyes. Sasuke having tomoes is enough because it implies that the user has power equivalent to both eyes.
You're implying.

And the manga states that the original owner with both of his eyes. Nagato/Obito are not the original owner.
It also goes back into how is Obito able to use all these techniques such as animal path if he cannot use the rinnegan?

There's no such thing as a half and half thing because the manga/DB claims no such thing.



It was the same level technique. Of course, Madara's scale was different due to being Juubi Jin.
I'm aware. But Madara can still use chibakui tensei even with his one eye.



Exactly. Just like having two eyes represent the full power of Madara's Rinnegan.
Two eyes of the original owner. And if Obito cannot use any rinnegan techniques with one then explain the animal path, absorbing, and the soul snatching that he is able to do?
(No such thing as half and half, because the manga never stated this)



It is a solo eye. It is independent of any other thing.
I'm going by what we know



That wasn't the full "power". He was referring to the full range of abilities. If he could use full power with one Rinnegan, then why was he so desperate to get the other?
Yes, I agree with his "full range of abilities," as he stated with just one eye. But Obito for some reason is claimed by others not to be able to use this.
With Both eyes, not only will he be at full power, he will be able to cast his mugen tsukyomi more efficiently.


The manga clearly stated that ALL Rinnegan users have a range of techniques called Six Paths techniques.

You stated that Momo and Obito can't. And where is the manga page?
Those are the exclusive abilities.
Source?

He can if he wants to. He just didn't do it because he didn't feel the need.
That's a speculation and I know he can't.
Because you're telling me that Sasuke can summon pain and use shared vision with it?

They're same in the sense that they can utilize Six Paths techniques. All Rinnegans can.
Source?
 
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