Manga shows it. CT requires full power of the Rinnegan to be performed i.e. Madara's both eyes, Sasuke's eye with tomoes.
So as for me, I usually look at things through a very literal standpoint. Picking each phrase and word carefully. And it's just recently that I found out that most of the things in our minds are just opinions from other people.
I didn't say "half". It' just that the full power can't be accessed with one eye (Tomoe Rinnegan without tomoes) and it can be accessed with two eyes (Rinnegan with tomoes) as shown by the usage of CT.
I'm aware. But Madara can still use chibakui tensei even with his one eye.
So why didn't he use it before getting the other eye?
There is a reason Madara wanted his other eye so bad. It's because he couldn't utilize the full power of the Rinnegan without it. He could use some Six Paths techniques, some he could use with limitations and some he couldn't use entirely.
Two eyes of the original owner. And if Obito cannot use any rinnegan techniques with one then explain the animal path, absorbing, and the soul snatching that he is able to do?
(No such thing as half and half, because the manga never stated this)
Yes, I agree with his "full range of abilities," as he stated with just one eye. But Obito for some reason is claimed by others not to be able to use this.
Momo's eye is different, so I'm not speaking about that. Obito couldn't use most of the Six Paths techniques entirely or not to their full potential because he had only one eye of a dojutsu that requires both eyes to be at full power.
Presumably he can. But even if he can't, it doesn't disprove my point. Because that has got nothing to do with the usage of Six Paths techniques themselves. Six Paths of Pain is related to chakra and power transmission through chakra receivers and demands the ability to control them properly. It's not a Six Paths technique itself.
He cant do 6 path technique like Madara Rinnegan but he can use Amenojikara and Space traveling with his Rinnegan, apparently similar to those Rinnesharingan from Kaguya.
The ones in bold is the same for Sasuke as well. It's still a rinnegan regardless. Look at Kaguya. She has a sharingan in her forehead, yet she's able to cast a genjustu with it and do every basic thing a sharingan can do.
It has the same design. Different functionality and working. That's what makes it different.
So you're telling me that it's rinnegan changed into a rinnegan like Madara, after he absorbed Kinishiki? Therefore, he can use nagato's six path of pein techniques?
Momo's eyes are different. Sasuke's Rinnegan is the exact same Rinnegan as Madara's, just visually different due to it's one eye form.
People say that Obito/Momo cannot use the six path techniques, yet Sasuke, Madara, and Nagato can.
I didn't say "half". It' just that the full power can't be accessed with one eye (Tomoe Rinnegan without tomoes) and it can be accessed with two eyes (Rinnegan with tomoes) as shown by the usage of CT.
CT has nothing to do with being able to use full power.
Nagato cannot access full power of the rinnegan because he's not the original user either. Yet look at what he was able to do. People are hopping off his feats.
So why didn't he use it before getting the other eye?
There is a reason Madara wanted his other eye so bad. It's because he couldn't utilize the full power of the Rinnegan without it. He could use some Six Paths techniques, some he could use with limitations and some he couldn't use entirely.
Using the same eyes as the Sage of Six Paths, Nagato was able to summon animals that had copies (コピー) of the Rinnegan, with which he could share his field of vision. He did this to compensate for his lack of mobility. Obito is also listed as a user of this technique.
He's able to use all these techniques, yet he cannot use the rinnegan because he's the original owner.
What's the point of transplanted the rinnegan then?
(No such thing has half paths usage, that's a fanfiction by the vs. section with no mang proof)
As in how? People on this base say he can't use the rinnegan because he can't control it.
The original owner was said to utilize full power, nobody knows where that line is drawn.
The "efficiently" is debatable. To cast MT, he needs Rinne Sharingan in the first place which is attained by both Rinnegans.
Kaguya requires the rinne sharingan. Obito was able to use it via his god tree.
Momo's eye is different, so I'm not speaking about that. Obito couldn't use most of the Six Paths techniques entirely or not to their full potential because he had only one eye of a dojutsu that requires both eyes to be at full power.
1. Sasuke's eyes is different too. That doesn't mean anything
2. full potential can only be down with the original owner with both eyes. Nagato and Obito are not the original owner. And there is no such thing as half and half path capability. It's a fanfiction that was never shown in the manga.
It's about Limbo and Ameno which don't belong to Six Paths techniques.
Sasuke can not summon pain's dead bodies. He doesn't even have the receivers for it or corpse to use.
Presumably he can. But even if he can't, it doesn't disprove my point. Because that has got nothing to do with the usage of Six Paths techniques themselves. Six Paths of Pain is related to chakra and power transmission through chakra receivers and demands the ability to control them properly. It's not a Six Paths technique itself.
It's an animal path summoning. Which means that it is a six path technique.
Six path technique is subject and varies to a wide range of other justus.
The databook even calls rinne tensei a six path technique.
The ones in bold is the same for Sasuke as well. It's still a rinnegan regardless. Look at Kaguya. She has a sharingan in her forehead, yet she's able to cast a genjustu with it and do every basic thing a sharingan can do.
Momoshiki can do the basic stuff of Rinnegan as well like having all 5 chakra natures, seeing chakra etc. His special power is different. Only limited to absorbing and releasing back ninjutsu. He gained the 6 Paths techniques after absorbing Kinshiki and gaining the purple Rinnegan (because different dojutsu). This also proves that the purple Rinnegan provides all Six Paths techniques.
Sasuke has a different function than Madara's and working. His allows him to jump dimensions and instantly swap objects. Madara can't do that.
Those are the unique techniques aside from the Six Paths techniques. Don't get them mixed up.
So you're telling me that it's rinnegan changed into a rinnegan like Madara, after he absorbed Kinishiki? Therefore, he can use nagato's six path of pein techniques?
Yes. The color of his Rinnegan changed from red to purple after absorbing Kinshiki. And immediately after that, he showcased the Six Paths techniques like BT, chakra rods etc. That's because red Rinnegan =/= purple Rinnegan & purple Rinnegan grants Six Paths techniques as a common power. That's why every Rinnegan user has shown to perform them.
Madara could've performed CT even without Juubi, just the magnitude would be lesser. Just like how Sasuke performed it. Juubi is not a factor here, the powers root from the Rinnegan.
So no it doesn't work that way. Especially when in the movie Momo was able to do the exact same thing.
Sasuke and Madara can because they are purple Rinnegan owners. Nagato can because he has Madara's eyes. Obito can but he'll need to have both eyes to use them at full power since Six Paths techniques will work very limited/won't work with one eye. Momoshiki can but only after absorbing Kinshiki and purple Rinnegan.
CT has nothing to do with being able to use full power.
Being able to use CT implies that the Rinnegan user has access to full power. Because Madara couldn't perform CT with one eye, he only was able to do it after he had both eyes i.e. full Rinnegan power. Sasuke's two eye correspondence is having tomoes on his Rinengan.
Nagato cannot access full power of the rinnegan because he's not the original user either. Yet look at what he was able to do. People are hopping off his feats.
It's about the techniques they can access, not the magnitude of those techniques. Someone who is not the original owner like Nagato has weakened version of all Six Paths techniques, and won't get Rinnegan's exclusive techniques. But someone who has only one eye cannot access some techniques either.
He did not do Animal Path and soul snatching. He did the absorbing one, but we don't know whether it was Rinnegan's Preta Path or something related to Juubi's power. And regardless of whatever it was, I said some techniques can't be used entirely and some have limitations to their usage as observed.
He's able to use all these techniques, yet he cannot use the rinnegan because he's the original owner.
What's the point of transplanted the rinnegan then?
TRANSPLANTED RINNEGAN
He can use some Rinnegan techniques excluding exclusive ones (with one eye limitations and transplantation limitations) if he has one transplanted eye.
He can use all Rinnegan techniques excluding exclusive ones (with transplantation limitations) if he has both transplanted eyes.
AWAKENED RINNEGAN
He can use some Rinnegan techniques including exclusive ones (with one eye limitations) if he has one awakened eye.
He can use all Rinnegan techniques including exclusive ones (with no limitations) if he has both awakened eyes.
(No such thing has half paths usage, that's a fanfiction by the vs. section with no mang proof)
Nagato's techniques = Six Paths techniques (which all purple Rinnegans have) [Proof: Momoshiki gained those after getting purple Rinnegan and Sasuke and Madara have shown their usage]
You've agreed that all purple Rinnegan users can use Six Paths techniques. Now the question remains whether they are the same as Nagato or not? The answer it yes, obviously, because they are called "Six Paths techniques" collectively which means they're together.
As in how? People on this base say he can't use the rinnegan because he can't control it.
The original owner was said to utilize full power, nobody knows where that line is drawn.
Madara also did it using the God Tree but after absorbing that within himself. But it awakens the third eye (Rinne Sharingan) only when the owner has both Rinnegan eyes (or as the manga seemed to imply).
1. Sasuke's eyes is different too. That doesn't mean anything
Sasuke's eyes are only visually different. Plus, they have their own set of exclusive techniques. This has nothing to do with his usage of Six Paths techniques.
Plus, Momo's eyes are different. Absorbing Kinshiki caused them to transform into purple Rinnegan which means they were initially different for this change to occur. Sasuke's eyes will never change from tomoe Rinnegan to dual regular Rinnegan which implies they're not actually different.
2. full potential can only be down with the original owner with both eyes. Nagato and Obito are not the original owner. And there is no such thing as half and half path capability. It's a fanfiction that was never shown in the manga.
Limbo and Ameno are exclusive Rinnegan techniques. Not Six Paths ones. I can't pull up the exact source so I suggest reading the Rinnegan article on Naruto Wiki in which people who are informed on the databook provide the information. It will give you the idea.
Sasuke can not summon pain's dead bodies. He doesn't even have the receivers for it or corpse to use.
6POP is not an Animal Path summoning. It's just the usage of corpses to use Rinnegan Paths by each body by transmitting chakra through chakra receivers for remote control.
Six path technique is subject and varies to a wide range of other justus.
The databook even calls rinne tensei a six path technique.
All the more reason why everybody has their own special rinnegan technique.
Momoshiki can do the basic stuff of Rinnegan as well like having all 5 chakra natures, seeing chakra etc. His special power is different. Only limited to absorbing and releasing back ninjutsu. He gained the 6 Paths techniques after absorbing Kinshiki and gaining the purple Rinnegan (because different dojutsu). This also proves that the purple Rinnegan provides all Six Paths techniques.
Absorbing somebody else does not change your rinnegan. Kinishi has the byukagan. So no, it's not a different doujustu.
And his eyes still turned red after he absorbed Kinishi.
You're not using proof here, you're just typing out your own interpretation.
Those are the unique techniques aside from the Six Paths techniques. Don't get them mixed up.
No, six path techniques are subjective. Any justu that requires six path powers, is a six path justu. The manga never stated that there was a concrete set of six path technique that everybody can use. I've checked thoroughly and nothing of that was ever stated.
Yes. The color of his Rinnegan changed from red to purple after absorbing Kinshiki. And immediately after that, he showcased the Six Paths techniques like BT, chakra rods etc. That's because red Rinnegan =/= purple Rinnegan & purple Rinnegan grants Six Paths techniques as a common power. That's why every Rinnegan user has shown to perform them.
The bold is an inaccurate speculation for the following reasons.
1. The black substance (gudodama/will) that Momoniski was able to use was used before he absorbed Kinishi. He used it when he thrashed the exams. So the same technique he used in the exams was the same thing he threw at naruto to submit naruto.
2. Black rods/will is not a rinnegan capability. The only people who were able to produce their own was Kaguya and Momoniski.
The black rod in the series came from Gedo mazou (kaguya)
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Other people in the series had to sync with kaguya's shell just to have it in their bodies. And Madara/Obito have been producing black rods without the rinnegan being present:
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So someone like Sasuke who has a purple tomoe rinnegan, can't produce any black rods of his own at all because he didn't sync with kaguya.
3. With that rest in mind. That red=/=purple rinnegan theory doesn't work. Because momo constructed his will/gudodama before and after absorbing kinishi. He even still retained his ability to repel and absorb from his eyes after he absorbed kinishi. It was never stated that his rinnegan changed into a different rinnegan in the movie either.
They're the same dojutsu, just VISUALLY different.
So is Momonishki. He still has a rinnegan, nothing more and nothing less.
Madara could've performed CT even without Juubi, just the magnitude would be lesser. Just like how Sasuke performed it. Juubi is not a factor here, the powers root from the Rinnegan.
With that logic, Nagato should be able to use Limbo too.
Sasuke and Madara can because they are purple Rinnegan owners. Nagato can because he has Madara's eyes. Obito can but he'll need to have both eyes to use them at full power since Six Paths techniques will work very limited/won't work with one eye. Momoshiki can but only after absorbing Kinshiki and purple Rinnegan.
Momoshiki RINNEGAN DID NOT CHANGE. You're speculating again. When you make a claim, you prove it with a scene/scans.
Being able to use CT implies that the Rinnegan user has access to full power. Because Madara couldn't perform CT with one eye, he only was able to do it after he had both eyes i.e. full Rinnegan power. Sasuke's two eye correspondence is having tomoes on his Rinengan.
Bold: No it doesn't. Where did you get that from?
Pull a scan to prove this claim
Madara said he can use full power with just one eye. I don't need to post that scan again, you read it for yourself.
It's about the techniques they can access, not the magnitude of those techniques. Someone who is not the original owner like Nagato has weakened version of all Six Paths techniques, and won't get Rinnegan's exclusive techniques. But someone who has only one eye cannot access some techniques either.
His limbo can create one shadow, with a pair it doubled its power to create four. (As the databook stated)
In the end, he was still able to use limbo regardless of one or two eyes. The power that was put into the justu wasn't on the same scale as the one with both eyes.
He did not do Animal Path and soul snatching. He did the absorbing one, but we don't know whether it was Rinnegan's Preta Path or something related to Juubi's power. And regardless of whatever it was, I said some techniques can't be used entirely and some have limitations to their usage as observed.
Databook listed Obito as an animal path user. So DB counters your claim.
Juubi doesn't absorb other people's chakra. And that Obito didn't have the juubi inside of him too. So again, it's a speculation on your part.
TRANSPLANTED RINNEGAN
He can use some Rinnegan techniques excluding exclusive ones (with one eye limitations and transplantation limitations) if he has one transplanted eye.
He can use all Rinnegan techniques excluding exclusive ones (with transplantation limitations) if he has both transplanted eyes.
Stated nowhere. He jut said that he cannot control both eyes because it was too powerful.
AWAKENED RINNEGAN
He can use some Rinnegan techniques including exclusive ones (with one eye limitations) if he has one awakened eye.
He can use all Rinnegan techniques including exclusive ones (with no limitations) if he has both awakened eyes.
Sasuke was said to be given the rinnegan, while Madara awakened his eyes.
And everything else you stated has no references to the manga either.
Nagato's techniques = Six Paths techniques (which all purple Rinnegans have) [Proof: Momoshiki gained those after getting purple Rinnegan and Sasuke and Madara have shown their usage]
Nagato doesn't have limbo and Madara does not have the six path of pein either.
You've agreed that all purple Rinnegan users can use Six Paths techniques. Now the question remains whether they are the same as Nagato or not? The answer it yes, obviously, because they are called "Six Paths techniques" collectively which means they're together.
I don't use purple/red rinnegan logic. It's a rinnegan regardless of what color it is.
Momonishki was still use many techniques similar to nagato, even more so than Sasuke or Madara himself. His doujustu still remained the same too. The movie never stated that it changed in any sort of way.
Madara also did it using the God Tree but after absorbing that within himself. But it awakens the third eye (Rinne Sharingan) only when the owner has both Rinnegan eyes (or as the manga seemed to imply).
God tree infinite tsukyomi has many ways to be cast. So Obito being able to use infinte tsukyomi with one transplanted eye just negate that whole both eyes logic.
Sasuke's eyes are only visually different. Plus, they have their own set of exclusive techniques. This has nothing to do with his usage of Six Paths techniques.
Everyone has their own exclusive six path techniques.
Plus, Momo's eyes are different. Absorbing Kinshiki caused them to transform into purple Rinnegan which means they were initially different for this change to occur. Sasuke's eyes will never change from tomoe Rinnegan to dual regular Rinnegan which implies they're not actually different
Only visually different. It's still functions like any other rinnegan.
Momonishki absorbing Kinishi did nothing to his rinnegan. All he did was gain his ability.
You imply that there is no difference, Kishi sees otherwise.
Limbo and Ameno are exclusive Rinnegan techniques. Not Six Paths ones. I can't pull up the exact source so I suggest reading the Rinnegan article on Naruto Wiki in which people who are informed on the databook provide the information. It will give you the idea.
6POP is not an Animal Path summoning. It's just the usage of corpses to use Rinnegan Paths by each body by transmitting chakra through chakra receivers for remote control.
Six paths of pain is listed as an animal path summoning. Even the naruto wiki that you rely on confirms this.
Animal path summoned it too, so of course it's an animal path summoning.
Rinne Tensei belongs to the Outer Path which is also included in Six Paths techniques.
Naruto wiki should never be suggested as a reference site. They gather their information from opinions in forums and join that together with kishi's work causing many controversial interpretations.
