Orochimaru vs Hidan and Kakuzu

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Manda II was created by Kabuto, it's purely a genetic experiment and nothing else. There's no reason for it to reside at Ryuchi Cave when it's not a naturally born snake of Ryuchi Cave. It is not part of the summoning system of Ryuchi Cave. It belongs, solely, to Kabuto.


The burden of proof...

But kabuto uses his dna to summon it his dna is basically oro... So oro trying to summon manda should get manda 2 as its prob same seals etc...

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Giving it to the Akatsuki. Orochimaru's usual style'll lead him into some big problems in this battle. If the intel was full, I'd be more inclined to give it to him.

 

[Red Slayer]

They cant beat hydra nor Manda.

 

[Draegod]

lol Shadow clones rape Hidan and separate him, While oru solo's Kakuzu. It's a simple Battle really never mind White snkae poison and ritual taking over either body and Oru having a truly imortal body. Never mind Hydra Absolutely destroying them. Never mind Snakes binding Hidan no diff Like Sasuke did CM Juugo (who is by far stronger), never mind Manda moving super fast or simply slightly moving his head. Never mind Great break through blowing them all away, never mind Neither would ever draw blood from him with out getting killed first, Never mind CM killing/Binding Hidan no diff while he is then Bisected or decapitated or simply shot in the head with kusanagi.

lol Oru is simply too much for them it isn't even funny. Then to think oru and snakes would let either party do what they please... lol the jokes are tooo good I tell you!

 

[Zexion~]

Kakuzu can solo this, I'm assuming since TAC actually stated Akatuski win this isn't Zetsu Oro, so that makes this even easier.


Kakuzu can win either though imo.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Kakuzu can solo this, I'm assuming since TAC actually stated Akatuski win this isn't Zetsu Oro, so that makes this even easier.


Kakuzu can win either though imo.

Kakuzu can't handle any version of Orochimaru with access to his hands.

 

[TRE MERCER]

lol ^ this guy seems to think when Hidan does his jutsu, itll affect Orochimaru like it does in other encounters. Hidan's jutsu bypasses any durability any shedding etc. He stabs the heart its as if Orochimaru is just a regular human being at that point.

Not really since Orochimaru Oral rebirth acts as regeneration and renews the entire body of the user so irrelevant.​

No they arent. Manda and Hydra, at best are as tall and long from the hollow trees located in Kakashi battle against them. Which Kakuzu's elements easily covered. Fire needs shed skin to counter. Futton knocks Manda or Hydra, or exposes blood. Raiton penetrated force can either killed by head-shot or leave blood exposed for Hidan.

Not even Manda is wrapped around Katsuya 3 times and we still can't see the end of him.[

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]. Futon knocks Manda and Hydra over lmao stop. Hidan was hit point blank with Kakuzu futon and suffered 0 damaged. Manda or Hydra charges right through his futon without taking any real damage what so ever. Once Manda rush Kakuzu he swallows him up. Make up your mind already is Hidan going to take Orochimaru blood or Hydra/Manda blood?​

Multiple bodies doesnt make himself immune to the curse, as I already stated NOT A COUNTER. @Bold, Ok Lol good to know Oro hurts/kills himself.

Multiple bodies does make you immune to the curse since Kakuzu was caught and his hearts kept fight like nothing happened. Let's assume this is true. Once he cuts Hydra Orochimaru takes him via coming from the ground which you have yet to give a counter to. He isn't killing himself when he has oral rebirth all he has to do is rip Hidan and half. Also you logic is everywhere. So is he going to cut Hydra or Manda or try to cut Orochimaru? You keep claiming he'll cut Hydra or Manda but when i speak of the striking him from underground method you claim he'll be killing himself.​

Which "they" can't. Not when it can be 7 v 2 battle and neither can drop not 1 tiny blood.

7 vs 2 what the hell are you talking about?​

Irrlevent on what Oro can or can't tank. None of these are evidence he survies vital organs being destroyed, and the curse makes it permanent. Oro dies when he penetrates himself.

Kakuzu's 1/5 heart easily reattaches Hidan, worst case​

Let's see here Naruto put 4 fingers in his head[

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]. He survived that and then he was ripped in half[

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] there's a ton of vital organs in the med body.​

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Orochimaru vital organs have been destroyed and he's lived through it Hidan curse is irrelevant to a semi immortal char who can preform oral rebirth.​

 

[Curse Mark]

Not really since Orochimaru Oral rebirth acts as regeneration and renews the entire body of the user so irrelevant.​

Not even Manda is wrapped around Katsuya 3 times and we still can't see the end of him.[

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]. Futon knocks Manda and Hydra over lmao stop. Hidan was hit point blank with Kakuzu futon and suffered 0 damaged. Manda or Hydra charges right through his futon without taking any real damage what so ever. Once Manda rush Kakuzu he swallows him up. Make up your mind already is Hidan going to take Orochimaru blood or Hydra/Manda blood?​

Multiple bodies does make you immune to the curse since Kakuzu was caught and his hearts kept fight like nothing happened. Let's assume this is true. Once he cuts Hydra Orochimaru takes him via coming from the ground which you have yet to give a counter to. He isn't killing himself when he has oral rebirth all he has to do is rip Hidan and half. Also you logic is everywhere. So is he going to cut Hydra or Manda or try to cut Orochimaru? You keep claiming he'll cut Hydra or Manda but when i speak of the striking him from underground method you claim he'll be killing himself.​

7 vs 2 what the hell are you talking about?​

Let's see here Naruto put 4 fingers in his head[

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]. He survived that and then he was ripped in half[

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] there's a ton of vital organs in the med body.[/font][/center][/GLOW][/COLOR]

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Orochimaru vital organs have been destroyed and he's lived through it Hidan curse is irrelevant to a semi immortal char who can preform oral rebirth.​

Just to add to this:
Kabuto basically went to down and tore through oro's torso and he still uses oral rebirth and was chillin. It's a completely new body

 

[TRE MERCER]

Just to add to this:
Kabuto basically went to down and tore through oro's torso and he still uses oral rebirth and was chillin. It's a completely new body

This is why Hidan curse is completely shit useless to Orochimaru.​

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Not even Manda is wrapped around Katsuya 3 times and we still can't see the end of him.[

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]. Futon knocks Manda and Hydra over lmao stop. Hidan was hit point blank with Kakuzu futon and suffered 0 damaged. Manda or Hydra charges right through his futon without taking any real damage what so ever. Once Manda rush Kakuzu he swallows him up. Make up your mind already is Hidan going to take Orochimaru blood or Hydra/Manda blood?

Obviously he can't do it 4th time since its near the end of his tail Lol. And I am not sure here what your tryna prove. Except you have zero feats or evidence to say Manda/Hydra isnt getting blown by the jutsu, yet alone stay in one place. Using Hidan as evidence isn't helping, as anyone reading the manga would know why he tanked it[

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]. Kakuzu has a Raiton blast waiting for Manda when he opens his mouth to eat him. And its nice to know it can shoot more then 1 bolts.

@Bold, which ever is open first obviously since Kakuzu's elements are good at hitting multiple targets

Multiple bodies does make you immune to the curse since Kakuzu was caught and his hearts kept fight like nothing happened. Let's assume this is true. Once he cuts Hydra Orochimaru takes him via coming from the ground which you have yet to give a counter to. He isn't killing himself when he has oral rebirth all he has to do is rip Hidan and half. Also you logic is everywhere. So is he going to cut Hydra or Manda or try to cut Orochimaru? You keep claiming he'll cut Hydra or Manda but when i speak of the striking him from underground method you claim he'll be killing himself.

Lol no it doesn't, and dont use Kakuzu has an example since those aren't his own hearts that he uses to survive. Hydra is fully Orochimaru, no one else.

2. No counter to what? Your just repeating the same crappy counter. Your arguing that traveling underground is going to be faster then Hidan, already set in place, stabbing himself. No its you who doesnt have a proper counter. Oral Rebirth is irrelevant, the same damage Hidan as done to himself stays and copies. So Oro has no TIME to do anything your suggesting right after.

7 vs 2 what the hell are you talking about?

Excuse me 6 vs 2. 4Hearts+Kakuzu and Hidan vs Manda and Oro. Oro isn't overpowering/overwhelming shit.

Let's see here Naruto put 4 fingers in his head[

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]. He survived that and then he was ripped in half[

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] there's a ton of vital organs in the med body.

Orochimaru vital organs have been destroyed and he's lived through it Hidan curse is irrelevant to a semi immortal char who can preform oral rebirth.

None of these are evidence that cursing is nullified. Chakra scapel has shown he needed to force out a new body, so what Orochimaru did against 4 tail was different jutsu then actually getting his vitals removed. We know this becuase snakes reattached and reconnected each other, with zero blood involved.

This is why Hidan curse is completely shit useless to Orochimaru.​

Thats the exact opposite dummy

 

[Zexion~]

Kakuzu can't handle any version of Orochimaru with access to his hands.

Lol

We've discussed this will smh.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Lol

We've discussed this will smh.

Which is why I was confused when you brought it up. .

 

[Zexion~]

Which is why I was confused when you brought it up. .

Funny

lets debate it? One last hurray for ye old Ancient Centurion.

 

[Curse Mark]

This is why Hidan curse is completely shit useless to Orochimaru.​

He can only use it so many times.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Funny

lets debate it? One last hurray for ye old Ancient Centurion.

I'm just here to screw around tbh. I'll have to pass.

Oi you bich :l

 

[TRE MERCER]

Obviously he can't do it 4th time since its near the end of his tail Lol. And I am not sure here what your tryna prove. Except you have zero feats or evidence to say Manda/Hydra isnt getting blown by the jutsu, yet alone stay in one place. Using Hidan as evidence isn't helping, as anyone reading the manga would know why he tanked it[

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]. Kakuzu has a Raiton blast waiting for Manda when he opens his mouth to eat him. And its nice to know it can shoot more then 1 bolts.

Im proving that Manda is way bigger then those trees you used as examples. There strength is enough proof as to why they will force there way through the puny futon. Manda has the physical strength to hold down boss toads yet he can't bypass Kakuzu futon techs? Just because Hidan is immortal means shit about his durability as his body wasn't even damaged by the tech and he has a regular human body/dubility unless you can prove otherwise which you can't so drop that terrible argument.​

@Bold, which ever is open first obviously since Kakuzu's elements are good at hitting multiple targets

Kakuzu elements outside of raition isn't harming Manda or Hydra at all and let's not forget about the fact that his raition is on a puny scale compared to something the size of Manda he'll give it small cuts that's about it.​

Lol no it doesn't, and dont use Kakuzu has an example since those aren't his own hearts that he uses to survive. Hydra is fully Orochimaru, no one else.

Hydra is fully Orochimaru? Irrelevant because the moment Hidan goes to stab him self guess what happens? He's either swallowed up by Hydra it's self or blitz from the ground by Orochimaru. Once blitzed by Orochimaru he then proceeds to cut Hidan in half since there bodies are linked Orochimaru will use Oral rebirth to heal himself once Hidan is still in med air Hydra proceeds to swallow his 2 pieces of bisected parts.​

2. No counter to what? Your just repeating the same crappy counter. Your arguing that traveling underground is going to be faster then Hidan, already set in place, stabbing himself. No its you who doesnt have a proper counter. Oral Rebirth is irrelevant, the same damage Hidan as done to himself stays and copies. So Oro has no TIME to do anything your suggesting right after.

Your suggesting Hidan is going to land the blow on Hydra and then jump in the circle l0l? The circle gets ruined via Orochimaru coming through it with his blade. Oral rebirth does and will infact heal the damage done to Orochimaru.

Oral Rebirth- this technique allows the user to materialise a new body. Im done here your clearly ignoring facts.​

Excuse me 6 vs 2. 4Hearts+Kakuzu and Hidan vs Manda and Oro. Oro isn't overpowering/overwhelming shit.

Kakuzu hearts are next to fodder here. Wind tanked since Hidan cannonly did it in cannon. Fire tanked or sheds it's skin. Raition isn't on a big enough scale to be relevant. Kakuzu literally can't do any real damage to the summonings here tbh.​

None of these are evidence that cursing is nullified. Chakra scapel has shown he needed to force out a new body, so what Orochimaru did against 4 tail was different jutsu then actually getting his vitals removed. We know this becuase snakes reattached and reconnected each other, with zero blood involved.


Thats the exact opposite dummy

Doesn't matter you initial claim was that he can't survive getting his vital organs hit which he already showed he can in cannon. Oral rebirth gives the user a new body guess what comes with a new body new blood. No it's exactly what i said.​

 

[Zexion~]

I'm just here to screw around tbh. I'll have to pass.

Oi you bich :l

What .-.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Im proving that Manda is way bigger then those trees you used as examples. There strength is enough proof as to why they will force there way through the puny futon. Manda has the physical strength to hold down boss toads yet he can't bypass Kakuzu futon techs? Just because Hidan is immortal means shit about his durability as his body wasn't even damaged by the tech and he has a regular human body/dubility unless you can prove otherwise which you can't so drop that terrible argument.

You were? Well you didn't, if you clearly know how big those trees are compare to humans[

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]. They are at best Manda standing tall size.
He can have the strength to knock away a Buijuu for all I care, that doesn't mean shit when it comes the blast force. Pain is able to push away Boss toads but failed to push 6 tails, only because he properly counter the opposing force. It barley had anything to do with strength.
Ib4 you interpret it that im suggesting futon can blow them miles away.

Um yes it means everything since he can't die. Kakashi was in worst conditions, dodging the attack, then Hidan who took it full on. You have no point Lol.

Kakuzu elements outside of raition isn't harming Manda or Hydra at all and let's not forget about the fact that his raition is on a puny scale compared to something the size of Manda he'll give it small cuts that's about it.

1. No durability feats supports this.
2. Damage output is irrelevant as I said many many times 1 tiny drop of blood decides the factor.

Hydra is fully Orochimaru? Irrelevant because the moment Hidan goes to stab him self guess what happens? He's either swallowed up by Hydra it's self or blitz from the ground by Orochimaru. Once blitzed by Orochimaru he then proceeds to cut Hidan in half since there bodies are linked Orochimaru will use Oral rebirth to heal himself once Hidan is still in med air Hydra proceeds to swallow his 2 pieces of bisected parts.

No, guess what really happens? The moment Hidan stabs himself Hydra/Orochimaru gets stabbed too, stop ignoring how the jutsu works. Lol at Orochimaru blitzing with no feats suggesting Hidan can't react to. Not when Orochimaru is around Kakashi's speed, who Hidan can keep him at his toes. Either way the ritual damage is Permanent.

Your suggesting Hidan is going to land the blow on Hydra and then jump in the circle l0l? The circle gets ruined via Orochimaru coming through it with his blade. Oral rebirth does and will infact heal the damage done to Orochimaru.

Yup, anyone with a brain would knows Oro has no idea what Hidan is doing under these conditions. Anyone with a brain would know Oro's head(or the hole he comes out of), isnt bigger nor destroy the ritual. The momment he stabs Hidan, he stabs himself. Oro constantly Oral Rebirth and dies.

Oral Rebirth- this technique allows the user to materialise a new body. Im done here your clearly ignoring facts.[/font][/center][/GLOW][/COLOR]

When did I deny how Rebirth works. Lol yea your done here. All your doing is ignoring how Hidan's jutsu works

Kakuzu hearts are next to fodder here. Wind tanked since Hidan cannonly did it in cannon. Fire tanked or sheds it's skin. Raition isn't on a big enough scale to be relevant. Kakuzu literally can't do any real damage to the summonings here tbh.

First sentence is baseless. Second, irrelevant and doesn't support none of your claims. Third sentence, fire used with Futon works good on Hydra. Or perfectly used on Hidan, since the ritual goes by Hidan's body damage input. And then Baseless again.

Doesn't matter you initial claim was that he can't survive getting his vital organs hit which he already showed he can in cannon. Oral rebirth gives the user a new body guess what comes with a new body new blood. No it's exactly what i said.[/font][/center][/GLOW][/COLOR]

What manga are you reading because he clearly got vital organs hit by chakra scpel and needed to rebirth. Oro getting cut in half by 4tail needs evidence that his vital organs were there, as he clearly did a jutsu. No blood = no vitals were involved.

Lol at new blood. A renewed blood doesn't stop the ritual, as its not different DNA output

 

[blazekev90]

These desperate claims to downplay Orochimaru amuse me. A blood contract is required in order for any summoner to summon their respective animal.

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Kabuto'sDNA was contaminated with Orochimaru's. Kabuto is equvalent to Orochimaru in a sense of the matter. Even part 1 Kabuto had the ability to theoretically summon Manda, as long as he used Orochimaru's blood.


Therefore, until it's proven Manda ll didn't require any blood contract, Orochimaru may very well possess Manda ll.

OT: Orochimaru wins high difficulty.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Dotonomu=Tankuzu