Orochimaru vs Hidan and Kakuzu

Curse Mark

Sannin of the Scrolls ๐Ÿ“œ
Elite
Joined
Nov 24, 2012
Messages
7,750
Reaction score
204
- Where did you get that Hidan is the newest member and Orochimaru has no knowledge on him? The game? :)

- He would use one clone to fight Hidan, and one to fight Kakuzu. He would be fighting one.

- Fuuton can be blocked with Orochimaru's own Wind Release: Great Breakthrough which could knock down several trees down and a large part of a forest. No, Hidan won't draw blood. If he cuts Orochimaru in half, then Orochimaru will come back by the snakes gathering. It doesn't show blood coming out of Oro.

- Manda has Skin Shedding for any elemental attack. Also using Manda's blood for Hidan's curse won't work since it's a different species. If he stabs himself in the stomach, where would Manda be hurt? It's a snake, lmao. :lol

Two entirely different wind attacks. It'd be like using a leaf blower in a hurricane.
 

TRE MERCER

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
May 13, 2014
Messages
13,251
Reaction score
487
Manda and Hydra shits.
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls ๐Ÿ“œ
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
assumptions, really. Hidan would be perfect since he's probably the only guy in the manga that can outlast a non perfect jin. But my point still stands.

Nope Ill go by manga. If he aims and damage his head/brain, they get the exact wounds. Anything you say is actually the assumption:

You must be registered for see images


Manda and Hydra shits.

Lol both are a big target to drop a tiny bit of blood.
 

Kages

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Nov 23, 2012
Messages
16,549
Reaction score
877
Are people claiming Hidan solos?

@ everyone. Hidan gets paralyzed by Orochimaru's curse mark, then chopped his head off by Kusanagi.

Kakuzu's attacks are fodder to the likes of Oro; Rashomon blocks and negates any attacks Kakuzu has. Then Hydra will overwhlem Kakuzu, or Orochimaru's true form will poison him. (unless Kakuzu has a counter for that like Domu, i fogot tbh :lol)

But even if that doesn't work, Kakuzu can't hope to defeat Hydra. Or Orochimaru will go underground, and come out from behind Kakuzu, stabbing him suddenly.

Or of course, Orochimaru uses killing intent to bind him and kill him then. :cool:
 
Last edited:

TRE MERCER

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
May 13, 2014
Messages
13,251
Reaction score
487
Lol both are a big target to drop a tiny bit of blood.
Irrelevant because when Hidan gets close he might be able to get their blood but he's never going to be able to stand still and preform the ritual. They'll crush him or swallow him up.
 

LuckyMan

Sannin of the Scrolls ๐Ÿ“œ
Elite
Joined
Apr 9, 2014
Messages
7,768
Reaction score
464
Manda II was created by Kabuto, it's purely a genetic experiment and nothing else. There's no reason for it to reside at Ryuchi Cave when it's not a naturally born snake of Ryuchi Cave. It is not part of the summoning system of Ryuchi Cave. It belongs, solely, to Kabuto.

No, there are reasons for it to reside at Ryuchi Cave.

It is a snake.
It is a summon.
Summoned snakes come from Ryuchi Cave in the Narutoverse.

It being a genetic experiment is absolutely irrelevant and where did the baseless claim that "it wasn't naturally born there" come from because the manga makes zero mention of it.
 

Lord Tywin

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
11,086
Reaction score
899
Nope Ill go by manga. If he aims and damage his head/brain, they get the exact wounds. Anything you say is actually the assumption:

You must be registered for see images




Lol both are a big target to drop a tiny bit of blood.
:lol you're shooting yourself in the foot. It says "exact". What part of a human head is exactly as a snake's?
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls ๐Ÿ“œ
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
Irrelevant because when Hidan gets close he might be able to get their blood but he's never going to be able to stand still and preform the ritual. They'll crush him or swallow him up.

That would be irrelvent when

1.Ritual would already be prepared
2. Opponent gets pushed back with Kakuzu's elements.

:lol you're shooting yourself in the foot. It says "exact". What part of a human head is exactly as a snake's?

Again never states the anatomy requirements so you have no point. If what you say is true, I could say Orochimaru's true body, or snake leg mode nullifies the effects of this jutsu, which is retarded.
 
Last edited:

Lord Tywin

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
11,086
Reaction score
899
That would be irrelvent when

1.Ritual would already be prepared
2. Opponent gets pushed back with Kakuzu's elements.



Again never states the anatomy requirements so you have no point. If what you say is true, I could say Orochimaru's true body, or snake leg mode nullifies the effects of this jutsu, which is retarded.
No, since Oro changes his body to snakes, yet normally retains his normal human properties. Manda is entirely different.
 

Beans2

Sannin of the Scrolls ๐Ÿ“œ
Elite
Joined
Mar 12, 2014
Messages
8,937
Reaction score
462
If Kakuzu can protect Hidan long enough for him to get blood from Orochimaru, then the duo win since Hidan will just critically stab himself over and over again, forcing Orochimaru to spam oral rebirth and run out of chakra. Since Oro doesn't know about Hidan's ritual, he won't necessarily target him first so I think the zombie duo takes it.
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls ๐Ÿ“œ
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
No, since Oro changes his body to snakes, yet normally retains his normal human properties. Manda is entirely different.

No Oro does not retain his normal human properties in his true form, nor with his slithery snake mode's legs. Its not different then Manda attribute. Either way anatomy is irrelevant base on what I presented.
 

TRE MERCER

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
May 13, 2014
Messages
13,251
Reaction score
487
That would be irrelvent when

1.Ritual would already be prepared
2. Opponent gets pushed back with Kakuzu's elements.
Your a fool if you think Kakuzu puny elements are stoping summonings let alone Snake Summonings. Also Hydra has about 8 different bodies so Hidan would literally have to try and nab all of them and then there's the fact that Kakuzu would be fighting Manda so he won't be able to help Hidan. The moment Hidan jumps back and stands still to do his ritual this happens.
You must be registered for see images
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls ๐Ÿ“œ
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
Your a fool if you think Kakuzu puny elements are stoping summonings let alone Snake Summonings.


Anyone reading the manga knows Kakuzu's jutsu are high level, plus the fact that it can cover more then Summoning range. Only snake worth mentioning is Manda.

Also Hydra has about 8 different bodies so Hidan would literally have to try and nab all of them

No he doesn't. Thats not how the ritual works. It goes by Hidan's curse, not by the opponent anatomy. Plus a stab to the heart is all that matters.

and then there's the fact that Kakuzu would be fighting Manda so he won't be able to help Hidan.

Lol no Hidan and Kakuzu are fighting together. Manga states the only way stop their team combo is to separate them away from each other via different location.

The moment Hidan jumps back and stands still to do his ritual this happens.
You must be registered for see images

Way to ignore that ritual prepared before the battle, and that Oro stabs himself through his cursed Lol
 

HiddenSound

Legendary Shinobi ๐Ÿธ
Supreme
Joined
Apr 27, 2012
Messages
20,009
Reaction score
2,125
No, there are reasons for it to reside at Ryuchi Cave.

It is a snake.
It is a summon.
Summoned snakes come from Ryuchi Cave in the Narutoverse.

It being a genetic experiment is absolutely irrelevant and where did the baseless claim that "it wasn't naturally born there" come from because the manga makes zero mention of it.

You must be registered for see images


It belongs to Kabuto, it was created by Kabuto, therefore it isn't bound to Ryuchi Cave at all. If it were born a snake of Ryuchi Cave, it would fall under the general summoning contract. But it wasn't, so it doesn't. This shouldn't be difficult to grasp...


I like these other responses.
 
Last edited:

Beans2

Sannin of the Scrolls ๐Ÿ“œ
Elite
Joined
Mar 12, 2014
Messages
8,937
Reaction score
462
People are STILL saying Orochimaru can summon Manda 2?
 

TRE MERCER

Kage in the Making ๐Ÿ‘‘
Legendary
Joined
May 13, 2014
Messages
13,251
Reaction score
487
Anyone reading the manga knows Kakuzu's jutsu are high level, plus the fact that it can cover more then Summoning range. Only snake worth mentioning is Manda.
His elements are puny compared to Manda and Hydra. Fire is tanked or sheds skin. Futon is simply tanked. Raition is tanked as well. His elements aren't a problem at all.


No he doesn't. Thats not how the ritual works. It goes by Hidan's curse, not by the opponent anatomy. Plus a stab to the heart is all that matters.
Irrelevant still since Hydra has multiple bodies as i've stated and he's never going to get the ritual off anyways because the moment he gets his little circle Kusangi blade surprise blitz him.


Lol no Hidan and Kakuzu are fighting together. Manga states the only way stop their team combo is to separate them away from each other via different location.
Doesn't matter if they simply overwhelmed and overpowered.


Way to ignore that ritual prepared before the battle, and that Oro stabs himself through his cursed Lol
Orochimaru has been cut in half got his face mauled etc. He isn't getting put down like that. Once Hidan gets cut in half Orochimaru re-attaches his body via snakes or simply uses Oral rebirth.
 

ToshiZO

Anbu Operative ๐ŸŽญ
Veteran
Joined
Jun 5, 2013
Messages
4,657
Reaction score
247
lol ^ this guy seems to think when Hidan does his jutsu, itll affect Orochimaru like it does in other encounters. Hidan's jutsu bypasses any durability any shedding etc. He stabs the heart its as if Orochimaru is just a regular human being at that point.
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls ๐Ÿ“œ
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
You must be registered for see images


It belongs to Kabuto, it was created by Kabuto, therefore it isn't bound to Ryuchi Cave at all. If it were born a snake of Ryuchi Cave, it would fall under the general summoning contract. But it wasn't, so it doesn't. This shouldn't be difficult to grasp...


I like these other responses.

Just shut him up and ask him to proof if Manda 2 is under contract with snakes[ ].

His elements are puny compared to Manda and Hydra. Fire is tanked or sheds skin. Futon is simply tanked. Raition is tanked as well. His elements aren't a problem at all.

No they arent. Manda and Hydra, at best are as tall and long from the hollow trees located in Kakashi battle against them. Which Kakuzu's elements easily covered. Fire needs shed skin to counter. Futton knocks Manda or Hydra, or exposes blood. Raiton penetrated force can either killed by head-shot or leave blood exposed for Hidan.



Irrelevant still since Hydra has multiple bodies as i've stated and he's never going to get the ritual off anyways because the moment he gets his little circle Kusangi blade surprise blitz him.

Multiple bodies doesnt make himself immune to the curse, as I already stated NOT A COUNTER. @Bold, Ok Lol good to know Oro hurts/kills himself.


Doesn't matter if they simply overwhelmed and overpowered.

Which "they" can't. Not when it can be 7 v 2 battle and neither can drop not 1 tiny blood.



Orochimaru has been cut in half got his face mauled etc. He isn't getting put down like that. Once Hidan gets cut in half Orochimaru re-attaches his body via snakes or simply uses Oral rebirth.

Irrlevent on what Oro can or can't tank. None of these are evidence he survies vital organs being destroyed, and the curse makes it permanent. Oro dies when he penetrates himself.

Kakuzu's 1/5 heart easily reattaches Hidan, worst case
 

HiddenSound

Legendary Shinobi ๐Ÿธ
Supreme
Joined
Apr 27, 2012
Messages
20,009
Reaction score
2,125
Just shut him up and ask him to proof if Manda 2 is under contract with snakes[ ].

I'm afraid he'll say "can you disprove it?" or something like that..
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls ๐Ÿ“œ
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
I'm afraid he'll say "can you disprove it?" or something like that..

You just did with that scan I linked. In contract Manda 1 died, and his name is removed under contract with Ryu Cave. So he can't be used. Since Manda 1 was under contract, he needs to prove that Manda 2 is under contract with Ryu Cave. Its his burden
 
Top