[VS] Tournament Finale: Minato (KidGamer65) vs SM Jiraiya (Apêx)

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Good-luck you two.
 

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That was stupid of me to even think about Pain. My bad. Rikudo is shitted on though. ST is tanked, dodged, or countered by shedding skin. CT is countered by wrapping around it and crushing it to pebbles. Manda can swallow the CT as well, with his ever expanding flexible mouth. Gudodamas wont work either as Manda is entirely natural energy. Summary: Manda shits.

Yep, and Gudo Dama were barely affecting Kaguya's Ice which got negged by Sasuke's Enton. Enton couldn't burn Karin whereas Manda tanked C0. C0's epicentre is in the high millions of degrees centigrade. Enton is barely in the 1000's, that's a difference factor of 1000, so C0 is 1000 times stronger then Enton which is at least 20 times stronger then Gudo Dama's.
 

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I haven't lost yet, this has potential to be my first though. I almost only debate with underdogs though, next up is Manda vs SO6P.
Your official debate record is only flawless because i got lazy just remember that.

Librarian why you always riding me? Go give out some books or read some already before i tell your boss that you be sneaking on NB before your breaks even start.
 
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Countering Jiraiya's basic offensive moveset.

Yomi Numa-One of Jiraiya's most annoying jutsu, but considering Minato can teleport...it's rendered absolutely useless. If caught, Minato simply tosses a Kunai in the air and warps away to land. If he can't toss a Kunai far enough to exit the swamp, which is highly unlikely, then he just double tosses while in the air, or summons (and marks in the process) a toad to jump off of. If Jiraiya starts off with this, then Minato evades it and spreads Kunai throughout the field. If Jiraiya doesn't start off with this, then Minato starts off by spreading a few Kunai, 5-10, around the field. Either by tossing them or via a clone.

Gama Rinsho-Depends on how long the battle lasts, but considering Minato is far faster than Jiraiya, and has Hiraishin and can sense chakra if need be, I think it's safe to say Jiraiya never gets it off, especially when his only way to hide would be inside that one frog due to the location being a plain desert.

Frog Call-Doesn't help since it stops movements, not thoughts, and a thought is all he needs if he wants to teleport away. Not to mention he'd be able to simply evade this regardless of having Hiraishin or not since the only way the tech works is if the sound waves actually hit you.

Goemon, and all of Jiraiya's offensive Katon-Easily evaded via Hiraishin except maybe Toad Oil Flame Bomb due to it's AoE, if there is no marking outside of his AoE, then Minato simply sucks it in with Space Time Barrier.

Chou Oodama Rasengan-Evaded with ease. Jiraiya getting this close would be suicide anyway.

Gamabunta is stalled by Gamahiro if he is summoned. If Jiraiya and Bunta fight in tandem, (which is far more likely) then Minato simply uses S/T Barrier to redirect all of Bunta's projectile attacks, and teleports Hiro around to let him easily get Bunta before he can properly react.

Things like Needle Jizo or Ma/Pa's offensive techniques are easily evaded.

How Minato ends Jiraiya

None of Jiraiya's attacks that he can perform on his own are going to help here due to the lack of AoE and speed, two things he needs if he wants to catch Minato. Attempting to limit his teleportation range won't help either since Minato doesn't need to leave Kunai on the ground to teleport, he can always make a clone or two. His attacks with large AoE are straightforward, thus S/T Barrier would easily suck them in. That leaves Jiraiya with zero chance of hitting Minato. On the other hand, Jiraiya has no chance of outrunning or escaping Minato's assault when he can't react to Hiraishin. Minato either tosses several Kunai at and near Jiraiya's location (20m distance) in an attempt to try and quickly end it with a blitz, or he just closes the distance between them on foot, countering his moves as described above, and then starts flicking his Kunai around, allowing him to end Jiraiya.

Not too long.
 

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Just saying, you guys feeling some type a way giving KG nicknames and shit.

Sounds like he's got a fan club
 

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Just saying, you guys feeling some type a way giving KG nicknames and shit.

Sounds like he's got a fan club
And here I am trying to not wash Mercer like the used up mop he is, but you're doing it for me. :lol jackass makes fun of other people for getting paid, while he probably gets money from his little sister that makes him wear fruity ass avatars.
 

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Just saying, you guys feeling some type a way giving KG nicknames and shit.

Sounds like he's got a fan club
Hush up. Why do people in the vs section feel some type away when KG gets clowned? Im so curious?
And here I am trying to not wash Mercer like the used up mop he is, but you're doing it for me. :lol jackass makes fun of other people for getting paid, while he probably gets money from his little sister that makes him wear fruity ass avatars.
Damn this guy never shuts up. Talked so much shit then got owned in our debate. Don't worry about my avatars (This is what i mean when kids be on be riding me) Getting money from my little sister that seems like something that actually happened to you once in your life.
:lol Right. It's also ironic that this guy is talking about anyone riding him.
The real Ironic thing is that you or somebody else who claims to think im irrelevant or w/e took the time out of their pathetic lives just to make a meme with my name on it. Then goes on to mention me in that group discussion let's be real here who really riding who?
 
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Hush up. Why do people in the vs section feel some type away when KG gets clowned? Im so curious?

I'd love to see all these times I got into feels lol I'll wait.

KG's fan club just always amuses me. You guys the guys putting Hella effort into trying to clown him, and all you got is that he's stacking that paper xD it's hilarious you got a squad for one dude
 
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Not only his insults are weak, he acts like winning a debate is like winning the gold medal in chess world championship. :lol
 

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I'd love to see all these times I got into feels lol I'll wait.

KG's fan club just always amuses me. You guys the guys putting Hella effort into trying to clown him, and all you got is that he's stacking that paper xD it's hilarious you got a squad for one dude

Right. Dude calls me "librarian" as if it's an insult when any librarian makes dozens and dozens of more money than he does. :lol Dickriding at it's finest.
 

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I'd love to see all these times I got into feels lol I'll wait.

KG's fan club just always amuses me. You guys the guys putting Hella effort into trying to clown him, and all you got is that he's stacking that paper xD it's hilarious you got a squad for one dude
Who put alot of effort into clowning him i just call him a Librarian and post librarian memes lol. He's the one making real memes with my name.
Not only his insults are weak, he acts like winning a debate is like winning the gold medal in chess world championship
This is the vs section it's about debates what are you here for then. Lool my insults are very weak? Why yall in yall feelings though? Chess championship? Boy your a lame!
Right. Dude calls me "librarian" as if it's an insult when any librarian makes dozens and dozens of more money than he does. :lol Dickriding at it's finest.
Yes you get that Librarian money which isn't even what 30k? I don't even need a job because my peoples got money. Also im 19 and work at BP oil i think it's safe to say i make much more than a Librarian.

KG keep abusing them like buttons to bad no one abuse your like buttons on social media.
 

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Enough of the non-sense let the debate proceed.
 

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Lol you thought I was stupid enough to argue Manda vs 6POP? Rofl Manda can just burrow into the CT and take a Bulgarian shit on the core. I meant Sage of 6 Paths, whose only chance of winning is if he can outlast Manda with his infinite reserves. But then it makes me wonder how much chakra Manda has given his body's size, and if outlasting him is a possibility.

Ha you guys are comparing manda to the sage of six paths?XD Must not be to hard to debate with you guys then?
 
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