Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 4 Scan: PS Itachi and PS Shisui

[HiddenSound]

This puts the whole "Limbo can do PS" thing into perspective :lol

 

[HiddenSound]

Ayyo y'all mad it's canon tho? Kishimoto drew it = Canon. Itachi has Perfect Susano'o, so does Shisui. Turn up.

Danzo without KA > PS user confirmed?

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

I forgot which thread, your post was on my bad for the late reply. And :lol nope. The burden is on you, after all you quoted me.

We are arguing about whether it is a requirement or if it is not. When debating abotu whether something Is or Is Not, the burden is on those who believe it Is.

 

[Chaosmark101]

We are arguing about whether it is a requirement or if it is not. When debating abotu whether something Is or Is Not, the burden is on those who believe it Is.

Okay I'll bite. So again I ask you where someone with Only MS made a PS? Canon material only please.

 

[HiddenSound]

You realise that you don't need EMS or Rikudou Chakra to get PS?

Tbh that's based on nothing.. We've only seen PS in the hands of EMS users and Rikudo Chakra users..

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Okay I'll bite. So again I ask you where someone with Only MS made a PS? Canon material only please.

There have been no known MS users with Perfect Susanoo and you and i both know that. But there has also never been any proof that EMS or Rikudou chakra is an absolute requirement. But here's why: Sasuke overused his MS and went blind before he could master Susanoo. Madara was never seen in action with only his MS. Indra's rikudo chakra is doubtable, but everyone seems to think he has it, and Kakashi got Rikudou Chakra with his DMS from Obito. But Correlation is not Causation

But by designing these, Kishi is essentially saying that Itachi and Shisui could have had Perfect Susanoo with only MS. Sure, they don't have them in the manga. But this is what they would be like if they had them. (Unrelated topic, but even if Itachi had PS, he wouldn't have used it. He never intended to win against Sasuke and he wasn't trying to kill Kabuto)

 

[Chaosmark101]

There have been no known MS users with Perfect Susanoo and you and i both know that. But there has also never been any proof that EMS or Rikudou chakra is an absolute requirement. But here's why: Sasuke overused his MS and went blind before he could master Susanoo. Madara was never seen in action with only his MS. Indra's rikudo chakra is doubtable, but everyone seems to think he has it, and Kakashi got Rikudou Chakra with his DMS from Obito. But Correlation is not Causation

But by designing these, Kishi is essentially saying that Itachi and Shisui could have had Perfect Susanoo with only MS. Sure, they don't have them in the manga. But this is what they would be like if they had them. (Unrelated topic, but even if Itachi had PS, he wouldn't have used it. He never intended to win against Sasuke and he wasn't trying to kill Kabuto)

1. Sasuke did master his Susano'o before his eye's kicked the bucket. He got his Susanoo's complete form, & then the

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just 5-10 minutes later. We know that Itachi had his MS since he was 13, & undoubtedly had mastered all his MS techniques before part 1. So despite Itachi having more time to master his Susano'o why didn't he use PS against

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eh?
Simple reason, he couldn't

Not enough chakra, & not enough power. During Sasuke's fight with Itachi. Itachi hypes MS &

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throughout the fight. Even shares his knowledge of it which he got from Obito. In that scan, it literally said "a new ocular jutsu is born" too (

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hint hint). Perfect Susanoo was only shown by Shinobi who could execute the technique with the extra chakra granted to them by EMS or the addition of Rikudo chakra.

2. By designing these Perfect Susanoo's. Kishi is directly promoting this game, garnering more discussion & interest, thus influencing the revenue it makes.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

1. Sasuke did master his Susano'o before his eye's kicked the bucket. He got his Susanoo's complete form, & then the

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just 5-10 minutes later. We know that Itachi had his MS since he was 13, & undoubtedly had mastered all his MS techniques before part 1. So despite Itachi having more time to master his Susano'o why didn't he use PS against

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eh?
Simple reason, he couldn't

Not enough chakra, & not enough power. During Sasuke's fight with Itachi. Itachi hypes MS &

You must be registered for see links

throughout the fight. Even shares his knowledge of it which he got from Obito. In that scan, it literally said "a new ocular jutsu is born" too (

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hint hint). Perfect Susanoo was only shown by Shinobi who could execute the technique with the extra chakra granted to them by EMS or the addition of Rikudo chakra.

2. By designing these Perfect Susanoo's. Kishi is directly promoting this game, garnering more discussion & interest, thus influencing the revenue it makes.

Obviously, since Sasuke didn't have perfect Susanoo, he hadn't mastered it. Though that line of argument depends on whether you think EMS is needed or not. If you need EMS, he had mastered it, if you don't he hadn't mastered it, and there's no way of knowing from that.

Itachi didn't use PS against Nagato, because he didn't need to. He's not the type to go out guns blazing from the get go, and it worked. Incase you didn't notice, Itachi won that fight. Similarly, he rarely used Susanoo, prefering the wreck people with basic Ninjutsu and Genjutsu, so he would be unlikely to master it. Cyclical logic again, unfortunately.

EMS does not grant increased power. Any power increase noticed between MS sasuke and EMS Sasuke can be put down to experience with the MS. All EMS does is restore the users sight and prevent them from going blind.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Obviously, since Sasuke didn't have perfect Susanoo, he hadn't mastered it. Though that line of argument depends on whether you think EMS is needed or not. If you need EMS, he had mastered it, if you don't he hadn't mastered it, and there's no way of knowing from that.

Obviously since he didn't have EMS he couldn't, and again he wouldn't have gotten PS without EMS end of story.

Itachi didn't use PS against Nagato, because he didn't need to. He's not the type to go out guns blazing from the get go, and it worked. Incase you didn't notice, Itachi won that fight. Similarly, he rarely used Susanoo, prefering the wreck people with basic Ninjutsu and Genjutsu, so he would be unlikely to master it. Cyclical logic again, unfortunately.

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-Didnt need to use PS against Nagato despite almost getting crushed by Chibaku Tensei

Sure. And the reason "It worked" is because Kishi's pen willed it to work. He doesn't have PS, nothing in the manga even slightly hints at him having PS. Drop this retarded notion.

EMS does not grant increased power. Any power increase noticed between MS sasuke and EMS Sasuke can be put down to experience with the MS. All EMS does is restore the users sight and prevent them from going blind.

:lol So your telling me MS Sasuke with vision that'd never fade and experience. Would keep up with BM Naruto? You clearly haven't read the manga if you think that's all EMS does.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Obviously since he didn't have EMS he couldn't, and again he wouldn't have gotten PS without EMS end of story.

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-Didnt need to use PS against Nagato despite almost getting crushed by Chibaku Tensei

Sure. And the reason "It worked" is because Kishi's pen willed it to work. He doesn't have PS, nothing in the manga even slightly hints at him having PS. Drop this retarded notion.

:lol So your telling me MS Sasuke with vision that'd never fade and experience. Would keep up with BM Naruto? You clearly haven't read the manga if you think that's all EMS does.

Obito kept up with bm naruto with only 1 ms that doesn't fade.

 

[KidGamer65]

Obviously, since Sasuke didn't have perfect Susanoo, he hadn't mastered it. Though that line of argument depends on whether you think EMS is needed or not. If you need EMS, he had mastered it, if you don't he hadn't mastered it, and there's no way of knowing from that.

Itachi didn't use PS against Nagato, because he didn't need to. He's not the type to go out guns blazing from the get go, and it worked. Incase you didn't notice, Itachi won that fight. Similarly, he rarely used Susanoo, prefering the wreck people with basic Ninjutsu and Genjutsu, so he would be unlikely to master it. Cyclical logic again, unfortunately.

EMS does not grant increased power. Any power increase noticed between MS sasuke and EMS Sasuke can be put down to experience with the MS. All EMS does is restore the users sight and prevent them from going blind.

:lol. Not sure if anyone should take the people who actually think that Itachi can use PS seriously.

1. EMS is stated to increase power. "I can feel Itachi's power flowing into me" Sasuke said. That's the end of that.
2. Sasuke's Susanoo has shown to change shape and be stronger outside of PS. "Experience" doesn't increase power, especially when Sasuke's experience is minimal since he fought with MS for less than a week before he went blind and got EMS. :lol

Itachi didn't use PS because HE CAN'T. Not hard to understand. You need extra power to get PS and the Manga clearly shows that.

-MS users can't use PS. The only MS user to manifest Susanoo is Kakashi, and that's after he obtained Rikudo's Chakra. No extra power=No Susanoo.

-EMS users have the power of themselves and the power of the person who's eyes they stole, thus they can form PS.

-Indra has his father's power. Rikudo's power. The same power that let DMS Kakashi use PS.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Obito kept up with bm naruto with only 1 ms that doesn't fade.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF Your right. :sdo:

 

[BenjerminGaye]

:lol. Not sure if anyone should take the people who actually think that Itachi can use PS seriously.

1. EMS is stated to increase power. "I can feel Itachi's power flowing into me" Sasuke said. That's the end of that.
2. Sasuke's Susanoo has shown to change shape and be stronger outside of PS. "Experience" doesn't increase power, especially when Sasuke's experience is minimal since he fought with MS for less than a week before he went blind and got EMS. :lol

Itachi didn't use PS because HE CAN'T. Not hard to understand. You need extra power to get PS and the Manga clearly shows that.

-MS users can't use PS. The only MS user to manifest Susanoo is Kakashi, and that's after he obtained Rikudo's Chakra. No extra power=No Susanoo.

-EMS users have the power of themselves and the power of the person who's eyes they stole, thus they can form PS.

-Indra has his father's power. Rikudo's power. The same power that let DMS Kakashi use PS.

I don't ems has any ties to ps. If your chakra levels is sufficient enough to sustain it you will.

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't ems has any ties to ps. If your chakra levels is sufficient enough to sustain it you will.

EMS itself? No. The boost (in chakra size and power) that is gained from gaining the other person's eyes? Yeah. It's needed for PS.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

EMS itself? No. The boost (in chakra size and power) that is gained from gaining the other person's eyes? Yeah. It's needed for PS.

No. I'm saying if a ms user had jinchuuriki/ hashi chakra levels he should be able to pull ps.

 

[KidGamer65]

No. I'm saying if a ms user had jinchuuriki/ hashi chakra levels he should be able to pull ps.

Except boost in reserves=/=Boost in power. The only way your Susanoo upgrades in the first place is if you have enough chakra and you have strong enough chakra, so they'd need chakra strong enough to do so and not just chakra large enough to do so.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Except boost in reserves=/=Boost in power. The only way your Susanoo upgrades in the first place is if you have enough chakra and you have strong enough chakra, so they'd need chakra strong enough to do so and not just chakra large enough to do so.

Volume can make up for potency.

 

[KidGamer65]

Volume can make up for potency.

When it comes to the power of Ninjutsu like Susanoo? No, it can't. More chakra doesn't equal a stronger Susanoo nor does Susanoo get stronger as you get more chakra. It gets stronger indefinitely as your chakra strength increases.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

next is salads ps XD

Yeah, she'll get one before Obito.

 

[HENI]

Edo Itachi has PS