Kaguya Ōtsutsuki - The Mother of Chakra... Was kinda Disappointing.

[davidou]

Than prove it isn't. ****ing hell, prove it otherwise your concession is accepted.

Lol, Manga facts? :erm: You didn't even post a single Manga scan, whereas I did and have been doing so, repeatedly, each one saying what I have said.

I haven't proposed anything, merely stated what the Manga did and gave evidence that it's fact, meanwhile, you haven't posted a single scan nor have you proven anything, it's laughable that you're still going on about this when you agreed with Sam about chakra.

You really don't understand anything.

Yes , I'm talking about a manga fact , the manga fact that ninja recover chakra.

And no , Hagoromo's words aren't facts , they just aren't facts.

And finally I didn't AGREE with Sam , I just understood his interesting reasonning because he explained it.
He says that he is sure that his theory is true , I'm still doubting , although it fits well the facts.

 

[QueenPrincess Legendary]

I enjoyed her character.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

You really don't understand anything.

Yes , I'm talking about a manga fact , the manga fact that ninja recover chakra.

And no , Hagoromo's words aren't facts , they just aren't facts.

And finally I didn't AGREE with Sam , I just understood his interesting reasonning because he explained it.
He says that he is sure that his theory is true , I'm still doubting , although it fits well the facts.

Isn't a Manga fact until a Manga scans on here. Hagoromo knows FAR more than ANY Ninja (you know, the man who literally sat and watched a thousand years worth of living), so does Black Zetsu and Kaguya, their words are facts when they're backed by the Databook and seem to be considered in the current movies, what Ninja's know aren't facts, and unless you hvae a Manga scan that directly states chkra isn't from Kaguya than I've won. As has been explained to you Ninja's are confused on what chakra really is, and yet again as explained they recover it by conversion of energy, happy now? But no matter how much conversion of energy is done, the main make-up of it is chakra (if they lose chakra they die, so when they say 'I'm out of chakra' they really aren't), thus that chakra is still Kaguya's.
What the Ninja's say are just words, not facts. There, I can do it too.

 

[davidou]

Isn't a Manga fact until a Manga scans on here. Hagoromo knows FAR more than ANY Ninja (you know, the man who literally sat and watched a thousand years worth of living), so does Black Zetsu and Kaguya, their words are facts when they're backed by the Databook and seem to be considered in the current movies, what Ninja's know aren't facts, and unless you hvae a Manga scan that directly states chkra isn't from Kaguya than I've won. As has been explained to you Ninja's are confused on what chakra really is, and yet again as explained they recover it by conversion of energy, happy now? But no matter how much conversion of energy is done, the main make-up of it is chakra (if they lose chakra they die, so when they say 'I'm out of chakra' they really aren't), thus that chakra is still Kaguya's.
What the Ninja's say are just words, not facts. There, I can do it too.

, you don't understand that you are owned , but all the information needed to understand that you are , is on this thread , you just have to read and understand.

You are still denying manga facts while saying that what a guy said is a manga fact , keep on humiliating yourself.
Your last sentence shows that you begin to understand how you're owned 9 times.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

, you don't understand that you are owned , but all the information needed to understand that you are , is on this thread , you just have to read and understand.

You are still denying manga facts while saying that what a guy said is a manga fact , keep on humiliating yourself.
Your last sentence shows that you begin to understand how you're owned 9 times.

You don't really know how to debate do you?

If its Manga facts we're talking about here, than where are the scans? The Databook entries written by Kishi himself? Who's to say what the Ninja's say is even correct when they've been proven wrong countless times? How is Hagoromo wrong when he's backed up by Black Zetsu, Kaguya, Databook and the movies? Are you for real?

Ninja's die when they are out of chakra, thus a Ninja saying he's out of chakra can't be if he's still alive. Thus this isn't a fact. The only one denying Manga facts is you. Do I really have to repost the Manga scans from before? You know, the ones you directly denied even though they're canon and proven to be true by the Databook and further by the current canon movies that Kishi was a part of and even wrote.

 

[davidou]

You don't really know how to debate do you?

If its Manga facts we're talking about here, than where are the scans? The Databook entries written by Kishi himself? Who's to say what the Ninja's say is even correct when they've been proven wrong countless times? How is Hagoromo wrong when he's backed up by Black Zetsu, Kaguya, Databook and the movies? Are you for real?

Ninja's die when they are out of chakra, thus a Ninja saying he's out of chakra can't be if he's still alive. Thus this isn't a fact. The only one denying Manga facts is you. Do I really have to repost the Manga scans from before? You know, the ones you directly denied even though they're canon and proven to be true by the Databook and further by the current canon movies that Kishi was a part of and even wrote.

You still don't know the meaning of the word fact.
You won't understand my point until you do master this concept.

 

[leezagboola]

it wasnt she didnt have enough chakra so was a bad character, it was how poorly she was added to the story and then defeated. She was the rabbit princess, already a ruler of her land, why did she even need an army or have to use her chakra to get people to submit to her. as a ruler she would already have that.

People dislike her because her character seems unnecessary. It should have left madara as the final villain not random black zetsu stabs him and summons kaguya.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

You still don't know the meaning of the word fact.
You won't understand my point until you do master this concept.

Is this really the only way you can reply? Do you not know how to debate? You act like your backed into a corner, I see it's safe to assume that you don't have any Databook entries or Manga scans to back you up.
It's clear you don't know what a fact means

a thing that is known or proved to be true.

Kaguya being the originator of chakra and all chakra coming from her is proven to be true. What the Ninja's say has been proven to be wrong and quite inaccurate, thus it isn't a fact and can then be called into question.

Learn how to debate.

 

[davidou]

Is this really the only way you can reply? Do you not know how to debate? You act like your backed into a corner, I see it's safe to assume that you don't have any Databook entries or Manga scans to back you up.
It's clear you don't know what a fact means



Kaguya being the originator of chakra and all chakra coming from her is proven to be true. What the Ninja's say has been proven to be wrong and quite inaccurate, thus it isn't a fact and can then be called into question.

Learn how to debate.

You were never in the "debate" , you still don't understand the point.
You're just an insect , you make sounds , but there is no meaning in those sounds.
So I just crushed you.

I am talking about a manga fact , you are not , no matter how strong you claim it (you look pretty stupid doing so) , , have a nice day.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

You were never in the "debate" , you still don't understand the point.
You're just an insect , you make sounds , but there is no meaning in those sounds.
So I just crushed you.

I am talking about a manga fact , you are not , no matter how strong you claim it (you look pretty stupid doing so) , , have a nice day.

You don't even know how to debate, so I'm not surprised you didn't realise that this is a debating forum.
Your even lower, I've only seen one other debater at your level of idiocy, he lost in the end too.

Far from it.

Where's the Manga scans to prove its a fact, child? Shall I repost the same slew of Manga scans that are indeed proven facts?
Facts can't be inaccurate, if there's inaccuracy than they're not facts, thus your point has been called into question as Ninja's have been proven to be wrong.

You need to learn how to debate and get better grammar, at least than you'd appear more mature....possibly.

 

[davidou]

You don't even know how to debate, so I'm not surprised you didn't realise that this is a debating forum.
Your even lower, I've only seen one other debater at your level of idiocy, he lost in the end too.

Far from it.

Where's the Manga scans to prove its a fact, child? Shall I repost the same slew of Manga scans that are indeed proven facts?
Facts can't be inaccurate, if there's inaccuracy than they're not facts, thus your point has been called into question as Ninja's have been proven to be wrong.

You need to learn how to debate and get better grammar, at least than you'd appear more mature....possibly.

You just need to learn the meaning of the word fact to understand that your reasonning is stupid.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

You just need to learn the meaning of the word fact to understand that your reasonning is stupid.

What, in the ****?

Not only do you return with a half-arsed post but you talk about knowing what a 'fact' means when you clearly don't? Can't you debate any better than this shit?

A fact means something that is correct/true, something can't be correct/true if it's PROVEN to be INACCURATE! Thus, child, when something has inaccuracy, it can be called into question.


My 'reasoning' is fine, yours isn't.


At least learn some bloody grammar.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Screw all Grammar problem and correction bcus its not important here as both of you actually get/understood each other posts(the meaning). The question here is when both of you will stop?

 

[davidou]

What, in the ****?

Not only do you return with a half-arsed post but you talk about knowing what a 'fact' means when you clearly don't? Can't you debate any better than this shit?

A fact means something that is correct/true, something can't be correct/true if it's PROVEN to be INACCURATE! Thus, child, when something has inaccuracy, it can be called into question.


My 'reasoning' is fine, yours isn't.


At least learn some bloody grammar.

The insect comes back again with his wrong reasonning.
A fact is something that happened , we never saw your theory happen , and you're easily owned once again just like that =D.
Shame on you that you still don't understand that...

Screw all Grammar problem and correction bcus its not important here as both of you actually get/understood each other posts(the meaning). The question here is when both of you will stop?

Attacks on grammar means that he has no valid argument.
I find this guy's reaction interesting , , maybe the mods do too.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

The insect comes back again with his wrong reasonning.
A fact is something that happened , we never saw your theory happen , and you're easily owned once again just like that =D.
Shame on you that you still don't understand that...




Attacks on grammar means that he has no valid argument.
I find this guy's reaction interesting , , maybe the mods do too.

Do you need me to hand you a dictionary? A fact, my petulant child, means something that is true and correct.

LOL, never saw it happened? Smh

Kaguya after eating the fruit is the first person to have chakra (within that world as there are more Shinju's in the other dimensions) and Hagoromo was the first person born with chakra (Hamura is his younger twin, which means he is second).

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Kaguya's chakra is stated to disperse into Hagoromo and Hamura (their chakra is directly from her):
↓ The birth of Hagoromo and Hamura. Kaguya's chakra had become dispersed

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This is directly canon and is stated in both the Manga and Databook.

Still with me?

Next up, is that Hagoromo spreads chakra across the world....

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This same chakra is called Kaguya's chakra:

'Mankind, endowed with Kaguya's dispersed chakra.' And by logic, considering Hagoromo's chakra is Kaguya's, and he spreads it through the world, obviously that same chakra equates to Kaguya's.

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'Progenitor of all chakra.'

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All chakra 'here' is stated to be the Shinju's (Kaguya's).

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Kaguya says chakra is only hers. Then she states she'll blend chakra into one once again.

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Sentence structure and logic dictates that she's saying all chakra originally lied together in one, and that she's trying to achieve this once more. Of course you'll probably deny this without a single Manga scan or Databook entry backing you up as is your habit.

Smh, you're the only one with confused posts here, and nothing of yours is holding up against mine.

It definitely happened otherwise there wouldn't be any Manga scans genius.

Me saying you have god awful grammar means your grammar is ****ing bad and nearly incoherent. Not that I have no argument, see above.

 

[davidou]

Do you need me to hand you a dictionary? A fact, my petulant child, means something that is true and correct.

LOL, never saw it happened? Smh





It definitely happened otherwise there wouldn't be any Manga scans genius.

Me saying you have god awful grammar means your grammar is ****ing bad and nearly incoherent. Not that I have no argument, see above.

It's obvious that it's not a fact , are you that stupid not to see it?Probably.

The insect still has no argument.
The insect still attacks my grammar , meaning the insect has no more defense , like a cornered kitty.
The insect still doesn't understand the word fact.
The insect is crushed but still doesn't understand it.

Keep on humiliating yourself child.

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

It's obvious that it's not a fact , are you that stupid not to see it?Probably.

The insect still has no argument.
The insect still attacks my grammar , meaning the insect has no more defense , like a cornered kitty.
The insect still doesn't understand the word fact.
The insect is crushed but still doesn't understand it.

Keep on humiliating yourself child.

I don't even...


Directly from a dictionary, child:

'A thing that is known or proved to be true.'
'Information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article.'
'Used to refer to a particular situation under discussion.'
'Truth about events as opposed to interpretation.'

A fact is not 'something that happened' that would be a event.


All chakra coming from Kaguya is supported by Hagoromo, Kaguya herself, Black Zetsu (all people who were alive when these events took place), The Last and Boruto, and the Databook. Kishi has literary shown this to us several times, and it is the accepted/official history of his world.

Sorry, but it is a fact.

 

[Jack Spicer]

She was shit. No excuse for that. Her character was fine, I guess, and her powers were cool, but her presence in this story was 100% not needed at all. Worst part of the series.

 

[davidou]

I don't even...


Directly from a dictionary, child:


A fact is not 'something that happened' that would be a event.


All chakra coming from Kaguya is supported by Hagoromo, Kaguya herself, Black Zetsu (all people who were alive when these events took place), The Last and Boruto, and the Databook. Kishi has literary shown this to us several times, and it is the accepted/official history of his world.

Sorry, but it is a fact.

Now that you understand the concept "fact" ,
"supported by" doesn't mean "proved to be true"...

It's so easy to crush your reasonning.

 

[Rohan]

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