MS Madara vs Kisame

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Intel - Full
Distance - 65m
Location - Madara vs Gokage
Conditions - Madara has No standing susanoo he has all his weapons,
Restrictions - None
 

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Well, with no standing Susano'o nor Amaterasu, he's worse off than Sasuke or Itachi here. Gunbai is nigh useless, Uchiha Barrier is pointless, the only remote threat is Juubi Sized Katon, which could possibly evaporate even the largest of Kisame's attacks bar GSB, which absorbs it.
 

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Well, with no standing Susano'o nor Amaterasu, he's worse off than Sasuke or Itachi here. Gunbai is nigh useless, Uchiha Barrier is pointless, the only remote threat is Juubi Sized Katon, which could possibly evaporate even the largest of Kisame's attacks bar GSB, which absorbs it.

Do not be so simple minded my friend CQC Kisame gets raped. His katon shits on all of his suiton bar GSB which is dodged. Bushin would rap kisame add the fact they can use katons aswell Madara can also absorb attacks.

End result Kisame dies by getting his head cut off with gunbai.
 

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Do not be so simple minded my friend CQC Kisame gets raped. His katon shits on all of his suiton bar GSB which is dodged. Bushin would rap kisame add the fact they can use katons aswell Madara can also absorb attacks.

End result Kisame dies by getting his head cut off with gunbai.

I'm not sure if Madara is dodging GSB, it's absolutely enormous. Though if he can, than I agree. CQC is a one sided slaughter in Madara's favor, MS precog with Madara's speed is too much.

Though at this distance I believe Kisame can spit a large enough volume of water to not have to worry about CQC in general, if Madara fires off his giant Katon, GSB absorbs it. I don't see Madara firing off more enormous Katon than Kisame can use his very own abilities, Kisame has a larger chakra pool. Due to this, Madara would die, as the only thing he has to get rid of WD or any large volume of water, or Feeding Sharks, is his larger sized Katons. If he camps inside his Susano'o, he gets swallowed up and drowned, or his chakra construct simply gets eaten by GSB.
 
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I'm not sure if Madara is dodging GSB, it's absolutely enormous. Though if he can, than I agree. CQC is a one sided slaughter in Madara's favor, MS precog with Madara's speed is too much.

GSB is the size of hirudora which can only fit a v3 in its mouth Madara and Obito jumped on the juubi's head.

Madara using multiple bushin with katons counters Kisame water style we do not even know how many Water shark bullets he can use definitely not more than Madara can use katons.
 

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GSB is the size of hirudora which can only fit a v3 in its mouth Madara and Obito jumped on the juubi's head.

Madara using multiple bushin with katons counters Kisame water style we do not even know how many Water shark bullets he can use definitely not more than Madara can use katons.

That Hirudora was smaller than the first one Gai used, I think your underestimating how much chakra Kisame has. Repeated Katons from Maddies KB's just become fuel to Kisame via Samehada.

Kisame takes this
 

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That Hirudora was smaller than the first one Gai used, I think your underestimating how much chakra Kisame has. Repeated Katons from Maddies KB's just become fuel to Kisame via Samehada.

Kisame takes this

Basically this, the original Hirudora was enormous.
 

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Don't feel like posting walls of text.

Madara smokes him. His V4 with no legs is still and kills Kisame.
 

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Don't feel like posting walls of text.

Madara smokes him. His V4 with no legs is still and kills Kisame.

EMS Madara's Susanoo =/= MS Madara's Susanoo
 

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Kisame rapes Madara like a prison hoe
 

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Kisame is not an Uchiha's best friend :lol EMS is questionable never mind MS.
 

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Interesting match-up though I just can't see Madara losing assuming he retains all his feats that are not completely explicit to the EMS.
 

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Kisame kicks Madara's ass.
 

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Proof that he can achieve V4 Susanoo the size of the kyuubi with just MS? He's only done that with EMS which grants PS

Sasuke V4 in EMS was same size as it was with MS.



So there's no reason the same wouldn't apply to Madara.
 

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Sasuke V4 in EMS was same size as it was with MS.



So there's no reason the same wouldn't apply to Madara.

EMS Sasuke who was just trying out his new eye's against Zetsu? Really?
 

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EMS Sasuke who was just trying out his new eye's against Zetsu? Really?

Yes, really, unless you think he was trying out his new eyes when he got to the main fight also, because his Susanoo variants there were the same size as MS too.
 
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