Who's strongest out of all three sannin??

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Yet Tsunade at that same time accomplished more than Oro and Jiraiya, and then said "F*ck you" to konoha (could've cared less for hokage-ship), while Oro got butthurt about Minato becoming hokage.. and while Jiraiya himself thought Tsunade to be better for Hokage.
And at the end who became Hokage?? Hiruzen's favorite's? no.. Tsunade.


Hashirama was going to set up Madara to be Hokage, even tried arguing it against others.. but did his thing work out? nope, who became Hokage? Hashirama


Danzo (from Hiruzen's generation), was going to be Hokage.. but did he actually become the 6th Hokage? NOPE.. because Hiruzen was the strongest of his generation.

Like I said, "who was considered" is irrelevant to who actually became the Hokage.


@1st bold, did it happen? nope.

@2ndBold, of course to you it is that way, because with that Orochimaru isn't the strongest Sanin ;].


And also to correct you.. Tsunade wasn't even an option.. She wasn't in the village, she left it long ago, she literally wanted nothing to do with the village. HOWEVER, when she was in the village with the other 2 Sanin, she accomplished the most. She was made into an option because the ones who were the options, weren't competent for the Hokage title..
Uh huh. Lemme break this down for you.
Orochimaru was slated to become Hokage. That never happened because of, and only because of, insanity, not lack of strength. So if Orochimaru weren't insane, he'd have been the Hokage over Tsunade. Therefore, according to you, the only reason Tsunade is stronger than Orochimaru is because of Orochimaru's insanity?

And yes, according to me it is that way. Because it is that way. It's just common sense that strength is not the only requirement to be Hokage. When Danzo convinced the Daimyo to make him Hokage, he did not do it through a show of strength. He convinced the Daimyo through words, ideology, whatever you'd like to call it.

Your entire gauge is fundamentally flawed.
Breaking Bad > Game of Thrones, just like how Jiraiya > Orochimaru without Edo Tensei.










Please don't be upset, just accept facts and move on.














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You must've never watched Game of Thrones :th:
 

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Are Tsunade fanboys claiming she's the strongest?

Isn't it great?

Did you know Tsunade is the most accomplished Sannin despite Jiraiya being a Sage and training two Children of Prophecy, and Orochimaru unlocking the secrets of immortality, necromancy, and creating his own dimension?
 

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Uh huh. Lemme break this down for you.

To break something down for someone, you must first understand it. In your previous posts you have shown that you haven't been able to understand the difference between what you are saying and what i am saying. And how your method to prove my logic is flawed, and actually has zero influence on my logic.

Orochimaru was slated to become Hokage. That never happened because of, and only because of, insanity, not lack of strength. So if Orochimaru weren't insane, he'd have been the Hokage over Tsunade. Therefore, according to you, the only reason Tsunade is stronger than Orochimaru is because of Orochimaru's insanity?
It did not happen because Kishimoto decided to not make it happen. You can't prove anything wrong about the Hokage logic.. at all. You can only bicker about how Hiruzen considered his male students to be his favorites.. and how his only female student was calling for reforms and was the more accomplished ninja when they were "SANIN".. and how his "Not favorite" student also happened to be one of the main reasons konoha won the 2nd war and not his other 2 students.

Did you ever understand why Hiruzen liked Orochimaru? Because similar to him Oro wanted to learn new techs. Tsunade had zero desire to become Hokage, infact she was supporting Dan to be Hokage. Why would hiruzen consider Tsunade for Hokage after that?

Furthermore, when the time for 4th Hokage's decision came, for who to be Hokage.. Tsunade had already left the village.. with her whereabouts unknown. So do tell me why he would spend the time to go look for someone who didn't give a shit about the title of Hokage, and also left the village. Hiruzen sure wasn't that much of an idiot.

And yes, according to me it is that way. Because it is that way. It's just common sense that strength is not the only requirement to be Hokage. When Danzo convinced the Daimyo to make him Hokage, he did not do it through a show of strength. He convinced the Daimyo through words, ideology, whatever you'd like to call it.

Your entire gauge is fundamentally flawed.

Problem is you still fail to understand what I am saying. Did I state people in Naruto-verse chose the Hokage based on who is strongest? no. This has nothing to do with how the hokage is chosen. So your entire argument has nothing do with what I said.

Danzo convinced the Daimyo , he was even held sub Hokage, and he was going to be officially made the Hokage soon... guess what happened? Kishimoto killed him off. Because the strongest of his generation.. the man who Danzo never surpassed was the one to become the Hokage..



Hashirama - Strongest of his generation
Tobirama - Strongest of his generation
Hiruzen - strongest of his generation
Minato - strongest of his generation
Kakashi - strongest of his generation
Naruto - Strongest of his generation

But when it comes to Tsunade, it all changed?? Rofl


If you do not chose to believe in this then don't. But fact of the matter is when someone is made Hokage, they are the strongest of their generation.
 

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To break something down for someone, you must first understand it. In your previous posts you have shown that you haven't been able to understand the difference between what you are saying and what i am saying. And how your method to prove my logic is flawed, and actually has zero influence on my logic.


It did not happen because Kishimoto decided to not make it happen. You can't prove anything wrong about the Hokage logic.. at all. You can only bicker about how Hiruzen considered his male students to be his favorites.. and how his only female student was calling for reforms and was the more accomplished ninja when they were "SANIN".. and how his "Not favorite" student also happened to be one of the main reasons konoha won the 2nd war and not his other 2 students.

Did you ever understand why Hiruzen liked Orochimaru? Because similar to him Oro wanted to learn new techs. Tsunade had zero desire to become Hokage, infact she was supporting Dan to be Hokage. Why would hiruzen consider Tsunade for Hokage after that?

Furthermore, when the time for 4th Hokage's decision came, for who to be Hokage.. Tsunade had already left the village.. with her whereabouts unknown. So do tell me why he would spend the time to go look for someone who didn't give a shit about the title of Hokage, and also left the village. Hiruzen sure wasn't that much of an idiot.



Problem is you still fail to understand what I am saying. Did I state people in Naruto-verse chose the Hokage based on who is strongest? no. This has nothing to do with how the hokage is chosen. So your entire argument has nothing do with what I said.

Danzo convinced the Daimyo , he was even held sub Hokage, and he was going to be officially made the Hokage soon... guess what happened? Kishimoto killed him off. Because the strongest of his generation.. the man who Danzo never surpassed was the one to become the Hokage..



Hashirama - Strongest of his generation
Tobirama - Strongest of his generation
Hiruzen - strongest of his generation
Minato - strongest of his generation
Kakashi - strongest of his generation
Naruto - Strongest of his generation

But when it comes to Tsunade, it all changed?? Rofl


If you do not chose to believe in this then don't. But fact of the matter is when someone is made Hokage, they are the strongest of their generation.

What a fine coincidence, and for the most part you'd be right. Except what happens when the 8th through nth Hokage is chosen? Are they going to be the strongest of their generation as well? Because the deciding factor is strength in the end, according to you, every Hokage will be the strongest of their generation.
If that were to be true, wow.
But it won't be true. And because it on't be true, because not every Hokage will be the strongest of their generation forever, things are up for debate. Understand?
 

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And now that it's moved to the vs section there'd have to be actual feats involved now. But digging that stuff up and arguing that would get boring and tedious. So I'll just say Edo Tensei and Zetsu spores gg
 

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Going by feats, if we exclude Edo Tensei:

1. Jiraiya
2. Orochimaru
3. Tsunade

This is the correct order.
 

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As if it wasn't the guy capable of summoning immortal Kages to fight his battles for him.
 

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Going by feats, if we exclude Edo Tensei:

1. Jiraiya
2. Orochimaru
3. Tsunade

This is the correct order.

Jiraiya over Orochimaru?
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Orochimaru in both short run and long run.

Then it's unclear between Jiraiya & Tsunade. What do you mean by strong?
 

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Is this a trick question? Tsuande is the strongest. While Jiraiya may be the most powerful and Orochimaru the most capable, Tsunade cannot be rivaled in physical strength by either and therefore is the strongest.
 

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Personally it's Jiriaya, Orochimaru, Tsunade for me if we're not including Edo Tensei

Zetsu Oro could take no 1 though. He definately has the potential to surpass Jiriaya, since he's already on par with him and has a body he could learn Sage Mode with
 

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Jiraiya is the strongest Sannin. His Sage Mode is too much for the other Sannin.
 
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