[Discussion] Feminism in Anime

[Natsu Shazneel]

And you think fiction doesn't affect culture or the way we live? Um..

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Anyway, doesn't even go that deep. Kids and teens are ridiculously impressionable consciously or not.

Right so you will let some fictional girl change your views about a women. A women that does not even exist with special powers. If anyone uses these things to see a women in a certain way they need help.

It's all the same evil. Better me someone arguing about something 'not important' (meaning: doesn't affect you personally) who hasn't been desensitised to realise this isn't okay than you 15 year olds who think their right to big titted anime ladies is more important than female respect / representation in the media.

No its not the same evil. The women in cartoons are not real. They are not being abused in anyway in real life. There portrayal is no different than any playboy magazines. If anything it is you guys that are making a big issue off it. You guys got many options to avoid it yet you don't. That is nobodies problem but your own. So please if you dislike boobies or titties than do something about it besides sitting around complaining.

As if I'm not allowed to live a happy life and complain because someone else is suffering on the other side of the world that I don't know. I wish there was something I could do to help but some people can't be helped. Yeah, the characters bring the anime to life so I must respect the characters to be able to like a series.

To be very honest I actually feel you in this response. The first half of your post is indeed sad. The world is not fair at all for some unfortunately. Now as for your post in bold. There is no need for you to respect these characters if you just don't. So don't try to force yourself into it. Its that simple.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Right so you will let some fictional girl change your views about a women. A women that does not even exist with special powers. If anyone uses these things to see a women in a certain way they need help.



No its not the same evil. The women in cartoons are not real. They are not being abused in anyway in real life. There portrayal is no different than any playboy magazines. If anything it is you guys that are making a big issue off it. You guys got many options to avoid it yet you don't. That is nobodies problem but your own. So please if you dislike boobies or titties than do something about it besides sitting around complaining.

So. Small-minded.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

So. Small-minded.

Naw its called using common sense instead of misleading stats. You should use it sometimes instead of ranting on youtube videos.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Naw its called using common sense instead of misleading stats. You should use it sometimes instead of ranting on youtube videos.

Misleading stats? Soz, think i've done a little more research into this than you have. You don't want to learn and bc it's not a problem to you, you think that makes it not an issue, so whatever. Enjoy your doujin thats making you dumber every week. Seriously.

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[Natsu Shazneel]

Misleading stats? Soz, think i've done a little more research into this than you have. You don't want to learn and bc it's not a problem to you, you think that makes it not an issue, so whatever. Enjoy your doujin thats making you dumber every week. Seriously.

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A thing like this does not require much research. Because it has to do with personal preferance. I don't care if you get a PHD in your research. It won't change the fact that you could easily avoid it.

Lol I find it funny how you think I get dumber each week. When you are busy sitting there whining about the portrayal of non existant objects.

 

[Yubel]

To be very honest I actually feel you in this response. The first half of your post is indeed sad. The world is not fair at all for some unfortunately. Now as for your post in bold. There is no need for you to respect these characters if you just don't. So don't try to force yourself into it. Its that simple.

All we can do is our part in contributing to the world, making it a little better than it is in this short 100 year lifespan.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Lol I find it funny how you think I get dumber each week. When you are busy sitting there whining about the portrayal of non existant objects.

/Challenging and asking questions about the media texts I read rather than becoming desensitised to it over time = stupidity

yeah man.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

All we can do is our part in contributing to the world, making it a little better than it is in this short 100 year lifespan.

I guess it should start with bettering ourselves each day.

/Challenging and asking questions about the media texts I read rather than becoming desensitised to it over time = stupidity

yeah man.

Good job in not making any sense. I see you go by numbers only not common sense. You truly live up to your name. :lol

 

[ToshiZO]

I think the OP isn't saying he has a problem with sexual objectification, I think he's saying he doesn't want to see irrelevant stuff in the series. And specifically males who are drooling over the females in these shows showing inferiority to the females.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Good job in not making any sense. I see you go by numbers only not common sense. You truly live up to your name. :lol

Fully functional sentence with a couple minor media terms in there. Don't berate people when you yourself can't read or open your mind to the bigger picture. Later.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Fully functional sentence with a couple minor media terms in there. Don't berate people when you yourself can't read or open your mind to the bigger picture. Later.

I already see the bigger picture. And influence from fiction is far from. Next time you see any rape caused by fiction let me know.

I think the OP isn't saying he has a problem with sexual objectification, I think he's saying he doesn't want to see irrelevant stuff in the series. And specifically males who are drooling over the females in these shows showing inferiority to the females.

If this is the case than he should be going off telling the mangako's this. Or fast forwarding or skipping scenes that show it. There is only so much you can do on a forum like this.

 

[Yubel]

I think the OP isn't saying he has a problem with sexual objectification, I think he's saying he doesn't want to see irrelevant stuff in the series. And specifically males who are drooling over the females in these shows showing inferiority to the females.

I'm just saying, keep Ecchi shit in Ecchi shows, don't bring it over to other genres and ruin an anime.

 

[QueenPrincess Legendary]

If you don't like it, don't watch it. :T

 

[shelke]

I guess it should start with bettering ourselves each day.

Good job in not making any sense. I see you go by numbers only not common sense. You truly live up to your name. :lol

No actually, desensitization is a very real concept. Just because you have your head shoved in the sand doesn't mean all of us are equally oblivious to the issue.

But hey, go and keep enjoying wanking to non-existent women. That itself speaks volumes.

 

[Anorien16]

How do you know whether what I read has quality or not?

By objective analysis and critical review.

I'll have you know everything I've ever watched has been quality stuff, I usually drop anything else.

What you mean is 'I watch stuff I really like', which would never be yard stick for measuring quality ... I actually like my sister's cooking over some restaurant quality food, but that does not make my sister's cooking resturant quality.

Also people have different tastes, I'm not saying your taste is shit for liking Mushishi over One Piece so don't talk shit about series I like.

Yet here you are *****ing about a series you like. First realise that there is no invading Ecchi Army from outer space coming to cause Ecchicalypse ... Second realise that creators create their work and people read them willingly. Naruto itself had plenty of fan service, but the rate reduced with time. Much like that Oda might be going throgh a phase ... now you can always skip the pages you dont like instead acting like fan service is something akin to terrorist invasion.

PS You wont admit it but One Piece like most anime never shied away from fanservice. It is as guilty as most other top stuff.

 

[Yubel]

By objective analysis and critical review.



What you mean is 'I watch stuff I really like', which would never be yard stick for measuring quality ... I actually like my sister's cooking over some restaurant quality food, but that does not make my sister's cooking resturant quality.



Yet here you are *****ing about a series you like. First realise that there is no invading Ecchi Army from outer space coming to cause Ecchicalypse ... Second realise that creators create their work and people read them willingly. Naruto itself had plenty of fan service, but the rate reduced with time. Much like that Oda might be going throgh a phase ... now you can always skip the pages you dont like instead acting like fan service is something akin to terrorist invasion.

PS You wont admit it but One Piece like most anime never shied away from fanservice. It is as guilty as most other top stuff.

One Piece's fanservice mostly came about after the timeskip which annoys me. It takes away from the series imo because you shouldn't expect shonen/action/great quality of characters and get ecchi bullshit. I wouldn't complain if I searched it up myself but I don't want ecchi to take over shonen series, there is an invasion in that sense.

Also there are no objective opinions, merely opinions the majority agreed on from their own subjective experiences combined. Your analysis don't mean shit, if I like a series more than another who are you to try convince me another series is better? Your analysis isn't objective either because you're biased by default which is the same for everyone, stop being a hipster.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

No actually, desensitization is a very real concept. Just because you have your head shoved in the sand doesn't mean all of us are equally oblivious to the issue.

But hey, go and keep enjoying wanking to non-existent women. That itself speaks volumes.

I fail to see how that word has anything to do with it. XD

If you can't come into terms with the fact that these are just fictional objects that have nothing to do with our lives. There is no help for you. No girls or guys are like any of these anime characters. If you wanna compare than why not compare there powers?

 

[Punk Hazard]

What does this have to do with Feminism?