Who has better Chakra Control: Sasuke or Sakura

[Obito the supreme jin]

Its obviously Sasuke. Sakura is good when it comes to chakra control but know where close to Rinnegan Sasuke's level.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

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[FreeTanner17]

See, Sakura has very good chakra control, but if she were in sasukes position I doubt she would have had enough control to merge the bijuus chakra into susanoo. I bet had sasuke tried to learn byakugou he could have, and Same for Naruto

 

[Xāvî1]

Part 1 isn't equal to part 2.
In short, she isn't in the top 10 in terms of cc.

A universal truth.
A Queation to those who say sakura has better control over sasuke, answer me this which is harder to control on the palm of your hand. A drop of water compared to a giant baloon filled with water??

Yes sasukes chaka level is Giganantic water baloon compared to sakura water drop like chakra level.

 

[Merkel]

I know that CC is kinda the only thing Sakura's got going for her but Sasuke and Naruto alike are demi-gods. Sasuke's CC feats are on a whole other level.

Obviously Sakura. Her entire fighting style relies on precise chakra control and as you mentioned she had the best chakra control in the group as a kid.

You could say close combat is Sakura's only skill but Naruto and Sasuke shit on her in that area... Truth is Naruto and Sasuke beat most of NV in their most skilled areas because they are literally the most powerful individuals in the world. Seems like a bit of an insult to compare Sakura to Naruto and Sasuke purely because they were once team 7 as kids. By your logic Sasuke should be stronger than Naruto because he was stronger as kids, but in reality they are equal now.

Similarly, chakra control is about who can manipulate their own chakra well... answer would be Sakura. As she is the only one out of team 7 who has the ability to move her entire chakra to any point of the body she wishes to. Naruto or Sasuke aren't capable of doing this. Being able to seperate your chakra in half, while focusing 1 half on a single point, and using the other half to heal/fight and etc.. is extreme control of your chakra.

Naruto did bold in the last, but with an immense amount of Kurama's chakra.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Confusing chakra control, with techniques that allow you to make chakra in a certain way seems to be quite common here.


Chakra control = precision. How much precision you have over your chakra. Thats what chakra control is about. For example, from avatar if somebody is to become a master in airbending, their airbending skills would be determined by their precision aka how well they can manipulate the air.

Similarly, chakra control is about who can manipulate their own chakra well... answer would be Sakura. As she is the only one out of team 7 who has the ability to move her entire chakra to any point of the body she wishes to. Naruto or Sasuke aren't capable of doing this. Being able to seperate your chakra in half, while focusing 1 half on a single point, and using the other half to heal/fight and etc.. is extreme control of your chakra.


Sasuke being on Hagoromo's level in combining exterior chakra with his own = best chakra control?? lol

Sasuke did nothing special, besides doing what Madara had done with kyuubi at VOTE. meaning merge and combine the chakra with him and the tailed beasts. Only difference between the 2 is that Sasuke had the rinnegan and the rikudou's chakra to do it. That doesn't mean he has perfect chakra control. You give Madara the same rinnegan, he will do the samething. Doing the same method on a higher scale, while having the means to do it enhanced, doesn't = becoming more skilled in that method.


Its like doing a rasengan, and then doing it with different sort of chakra.. and then claiming thats perfect chakra control... lol no.

If it was nothing special than the Kyuubi wouldn't have said Sasuke was almost unrivalled, and said he was on the Sage's level.

Sasuke remerged all the Bijuus chakra, and combined it with his own chakra within seconds with absolute ease. Don't confuse POWER with SKILL, having the Rinnegan, and half of the Sage's chakra didn't suddenly make Sasuke a master at chakra control, attaining those gave Sasuke a ton more of power in which he had to learn how to control.

There's also the fact that Sasuke changed it's shape (Shape Manipulation), and changed it into Lightning (Nature manipulation) for his technique all in a span of seconds.

 

[shelke]

If I compare all Team 7, then it would be something like this:

1- Sasuke: Unmatched. He is beyond Sakura and Naruto's CC level. It is literally pedestrian by comparison as Sasuke matches the Sage in this feat.

After a large margin:

2 - Sakura: Her seal is the pinnacle of CC.

3 - Naruto only handles large chakra volume. His CC is managed my Kurama and the Bijuus proven by several scans where the Bijuus literally hand kneaded chakra over to him. Also, Kurama's chakra provides a natural form of control, as he managed Rasangan with one hand in part one while under its influence and even managed one-handed mini tbb few times - 2 or 3 - in KCM form.

People mistake large chakra handling, which is fully kneaded, with CC.

4 - Kakashi is at the bottom here, I'm afraid.

 

[MAN OF SIN]

2 - Sakura: Her seal is the pinnacle of CC.

That's not what the viz and TakL translation said.

3 - Naruto only handles large chakra volume. His CC is managed my Kurama and the Bijuus proven by several scans where the Bijuus literally hand kneaded chakra over to him. Also, Kurama's chakra provides a natural form of control, as he managed Rasangan with one hand in part one while under its influence and even managed one-handed mini tbb few times - 2 or 3 - in KCM form.

People mistake large chakra handling, which is fully kneaded, with CC.

This is completely independent of Kurama.

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[Pukkake Pokayo]

Anyone got a link for a site where I can watch GoT on a phone without signing up? Couchtuner stopped working for me. Thanks in advance.

OT: Shelke is on that good shit. The bias is really shining through when you put Sakura above Naruto in chakra control.

 

[shelke]

That's not what the viz and TakL translation said.

This is completely independent of Kurama.

What do they say? I am curious. DB IV backs this up.

That is the pinnacle of Chakra control when he couldn't make a mini tbb (most of the time) with one hand - the thing that actually requires CC? Then you are disregarding all clear cut dialogues where the Bijuu literally say they kneaded the chakra for him, including Kurama? Yeah, okay.

 

[Ripple Hole]

What do they say? I am curious. DB IV backs this up.

That is the pinnacle of Chakra control when he couldn't make a mini tbb (most of the time) with one hand - the thing that actually requires CC? Then you are disregarding all clear cut dialogues where the Bijuu literally say they kneaded the chakra for him, including Kurama? Yeah, okay.

He first failed a hell of a lot, then became able to do this measly thing.

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He afterwards develops the skill to do rasengan with one hand, as he
couldn't do it with one hand before, because he couldn't rotate it and add
chakra at the same time, which the clones were for.

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Goes further and becomes skilled enough to add senjustu, and a kekkei genkai into
an evolved rasengan. When is was impossible for J man, Kakashi,
and the 4th to even put their own chakra natures into a regular rasengan.. Keeping in mind that he was using Bijuu chakra which is a waaay harder to control.

Even if you think it was kneaded he still added a kekkei genkai,
and senjustu into an evolved rasengan with one hand.
It's not mentioned, but I also have reason to believe he even added
his wind nature into it. This being due to the fact the only RS that he has
ever thrown were all wind style.

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He then proceeds to become skilled enough to make giant TBBs with one hand.

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Rasengan is also the pinnacle(highest point) of "shape transformation", rasenshurkien takes it even further, then TBB rasengans take it even further.
Just sayin'.

 

[shelke]

SNIP

And, I did say he did it a few times, didn't I? Also, I have to be the mean one here, but big ****ing deal. When you have god knows how many decades of experience added through KBs abuse, and you still cannot make a complete tech with one hand ... then it shows where your CC stands. So he made a large TBB, while being inside the Avatar - something Kurama must have contributed to, again?

Actually, that Rasangan's chakra against Madara was given by the Bijuu, as we saw them handing kneaded chakra to him later, not once but quite a few times, especially during those colourful Rasangans, proven to be another perk of the mode via DB IV. Not to mention his Sage Mode literally 'allows him' comprehension of all things and chakra control with the sensitivity of a skilled master. So, what is he doing himself?

- Bijuu chakra? The Bijuus knead it for him. It's a gift-wrapped parcel.
- The rest? The mode quite literally allows him far better chakra control and still he required several hands to make those two Yin / Yang Rasangans at the end.

Now, unless you want to deny everything the manga and DB IV state and cling to NB's own brand of fiction, then be my guest. But the evidence? Yeah, it states what I said.

 

[Ripple Hole]

And, I did say he did it a few times, didn't I? Also, I have to be the mean one here, but big ****ing deal. When you have god knows how many decades of experience added through KBs abuse, and you still cannot make a complete tech with one hand ... then it shows where your CC stands. So he made a large TBB, while being inside the Avatar - something Kurama must have contributed to, again?

Actually, that Rasangan's chakra against Madara was given by the Bijuu, as we saw them handing kneaded chakra to him later, not once but quite a few times, especially during those colourful Rasangans, proven to be another perk of the mode via DB IV. Not to mention his Sage Mode literally 'allows him' comprehension of all things and chakra control with the sensitivity of a skilled master. So, what is he doing himself?

- Bijuu chakra? The Bijuus knead it for him. It's a gift-wrapped parcel.
- The rest? The mode quite literally allows him far better chakra control and still he required several hands to make those two Yin / Yang Rasangans at the end.

Now, unless you want to deny everything the manga and DB IV state and cling to NB's own brand of fiction, then be my guest. But the evidence? Yeah, it states what I said.

Lel, he's in a position where he should have skill and you use it against him.
My ass is looking well. Lel deny DB XD
You're chocked full of it and I'll leave it at that.

 

[shelke]

Lel, he's in a position where he should have skill and you use it against him.
My ass is looking well. Lel deny DB XD
You're chocked full of it and I'll leave it at that.

I'm denying what has been explicitly stated in DB IV and the manga?

- RSM literally provides him with better CC - a skill that isn't his own? Fact.
- Bijuus literally hand him kneaded chakra for the Rasangans and other techs? Fact.
- He couldn't use a complete tech even after decades of experience added with KBs? Fact.
- Sakura uses her own skill to do so? Fact.
- She remotely healed thousands via the seal and the skill, both of which, require the pinnacle of CC? Fact.

It's like a cheap soap re-run with you Naruto fans. Fictions and made-up facts.


I even made a thread on this:

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As the post wasn't that long, I'm posting it here:

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The full Title: Is Sakura's Talent beneath Tsunade in regards to Chakra Control and Byakugou seal? Data-book IV puts things in Perspective!

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Data book IV on Sakura's Talent and Byakogou Sousou Saisei's Mechanics:

Sakura

Sakura had the same chakra control and talent as Tsunade, and before long it blossomed.

Talks about the rules of being a medic and how the medic should naturally stay out of the front lines. Except when they have the Ninjutsu "Sousou Saisei Byakugou". Sakura adopted the Jutsu due to her incredible talent. The ability to surpass ones own self healing, and heal ones own wounds right on the spot, that's the power "Sousou Sisei Byakgou"

The weapon that Sakura has that that the enemy should fear is her Herculean strength.

Further explanation on Byakogou Sousou Saisei:

Byakogou Sousou Saisei

For several years using the highest most precise chakra control, a fixed amount is stored in the Byakugou seal. The chakra is usually put to use to regenerate the body through the Ninjutsu technique "Sousou Saisei", the combination results in the ultimate regeneration Jutsu.

The seal was able to regenerate the body, despite Tsunade chakra quantity being less than the enormous chakra quantity of Shodai Hokage.

When Ninpo "Sousou Saisei" is used at the same time as "Byakugou no Jutsu", it becomes possible to use it (Sousou Saisei) over a long period of time. When one’s life is affected by grave wounds pushed to the point where they'd normally die; one’s body is instantly returned to an unwounded condition. Than it just talks about the rules of medical ninjutsu where broken with the completion of such a marvelous Ninjutsu as this.

Release the chakra stored in ones forehead. Wounds completely recover, while at the same time ones own power rises*, however cell division quickens, which shortens ones life span.

So what did the facts created by the author tell us:

1) Sakura has the same talent and smarts as Tsunade. Check.
2) Byakogou Sousou Saisei is the result of the pinnacle of chakra control. Check.
3) It instantly heals wounds. Check.
4) When Ninpo "Sousou Saisei" is used at the same time as "Byakugou no Jutsu", it becomes possible to use it (Sousou Saisei) over a long period of time. Check.
5) It's a marvelous Jutsu. Check. Naruto, you have competition everywhere. Despite the fact that the Chakra Control is a handed over ability in your Sage of the Six Paths Senjutsu mode:

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Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo), Sage Justu / Ninjutsu used by Naruto.

The big header basically says it's a gift from the ancestor of shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

From what I can make out of the main body of text, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosphical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

Top caption says that the caster has an unconcious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

Second caption says, "Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!"

Third caption says, "His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchuriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!"

The bottom left caption says, "To acquire the power of the ten tailed beasts is the same as possessing the power of the Sage of Six Paths, so it is accompanied by the same Truthseeker Orbs.

So in natural talent Sakura's CC surpasses Naruto? Oh dear! Since I dislike both characters, it'll be awesome to see people from Naruto front deny something the author has written.

By popular demand, Naruto's Rasangans fused with Bijuu chakra have also been explained:

Sage Art: Magnet Release Rasengan. It basically says that inheriting the Sage of Six Path's power made it possible for Naruto to combine Shukaku's Magnet Release with the Rasengan to amplify it with magnetic power (吸引力, different kanji from bansho ten'in).

Okay, the "Sage Art: Super Biju Rasenshuriken" section says that, after being granted the power of the Sage of Six Paths, Naruto performed this ultimate jutsu. They're "Rasenshuriken" that have been proudly infused with the "special chakra properties" (チャクラ特性, chakura tokusei) of the tailed beasts, which Naruto unleashes simultaneously through Multiple Shadow Clones. It, uh, also describes it as "the most marvelous ninjutsu of all time." (空前絶後の忍術, Kūzenzetsugo no Ninjutsu).

The caption says that it struck Kaguya's weak point, making it impossible for her to maintain her physical form. [Which is to say, it took advantage of her having the chakra of the nine tailed beasts and turned it into a weakness. -FF-Suzaku

Might as well throw Madara's Storm Release in there as well, as Jubi Jins also possess the Sage of the Six Paths powers, that allows them the same innate command and control over things. It has nothing to do with skill.

The tiny entry for Madara's Sage Art Storm Release says he's able to use it thanks to the "power of the Six Paths." It's listed as Senjutsu, not a Kekkei Genkai. I can't read the details on his Sage Art Yin Release attack.

Edit 1: Directed at those who believe Sakura has no feats, when healing and remote healing together with her seal are feats that no one in the manga is capable of: they show her mastery and control over chakra is at its pinnacle.

Healing itself involves Precise Chakra Control honed to perfection:

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That means, not only Sakura's CC without managing the seal is precise, but during the management and remote healing countless people, it deserves even more praise - Click the spoiler tag to look at the feats:

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Comparatively, Naruto is simply showing Bijuu's own control over their chakra. It has nothing to do with Naruto:

CC is nothing more than understanding of Chakra and using it properly.

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- The Bijuu literally prepares steam chakra for Naruto.

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- "I've prepared chakra for you Naruto."

It wouldn't kill anyone to give credit where it's due. Most of you go too far with your nonsensical bashing, as the author has shown Sakura with nearly unmatched Chakra Control and Ninjutsu prowess. If you deny this, it's simply fiction.

 

[lndra]

I don't believe VIZ calls it the pinnacle of chakra control, someone showed it to me the other day :lol

Naruto is better in CC anyway, that goes for SM which is an advanced form of CC as well. Which people seem to be missing.

RSM provides better CC, where was that stated?

 

[Endles Waltz]

I'm denying what has been explicitly stated in DB IV and the manga?

- RSM literally provides him with better CC - a skill that isn't his own? Fact.
- Bijuus literally hand him kneaded chakra for the Rasangans and other techs? Fact.
- He couldn't use a complete tech even after decades of experience added with KBs? Fact.
- Sakura uses her own skill to do so? Fact.
- She remotely healed thousands via the seal and the skill, both of which, require the pinnacle of CC? Fact.

It's like a cheap soap re-run with you Naruto fans. Fictions and made-up facts.


I even made a thread on this:

As the post wasn't that long, I'm posting it here:

Great analysis in the spoiler. :lol

 

[shelke]

OR if Sasuke didn't have a rikudou enhanced eye to controll all of that chakra. They couldn't control it on her level before becoming the fan-fic "gods" or after becoming the fan-fic "Gods".

Do you even read what you type? That's some garbage you have got there that has no place in the manga. Rinnegan and Sharingan allow Chakra Control in Techniques? This guy ...

I don't believe VIZ calls it the pinnacle of chakra control, someone showed it to me the other day :lol

Naruto is better in CC anyway, that goes for SM which is an advanced form of CC as well. Which people seem to be missing.

RSM provides better CC, where was that stated?

No, he isn't. Better click the spoiler. It's flat out stated in DB IV.

 

[lndra]

No, he isn't. Better click the spoiler. It's flat out stated in DB IV.

Yes, he is.

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Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)

Heading: A gift from the ancestor of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

← The caster has an unconscious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

From what is translated other than the S06P physiological saying, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of Chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosophical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

→ Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast Chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!

← His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchūriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!

Hmmm. All I see is him being capable of mastering the nature of chakra with skill.

 

[shelke]

Yes, he is.

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Six Paths Sage Mode (六道仙人モード, Rikudō Sennin Mōdo)

Heading: A gift from the ancestor of Shinobi that grants a supernatural mental state allowing for the complete, universal comprehension of all things.

← The caster has an unconscious/automatic mastery of the Sage of Six Path's "ability to levitate" (浮遊する能力, fuyū suru nōryoku).

From what is translated other than the S06P physiological saying, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of Chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master. It also seems to have a bunch of philosophical stuff about the Sage of Six Paths which is hard to make out because I can only read about half of it.

→ Kicking a Truthseeker Orb! Surpassing Kurama Mode, his vast Chakra lets him perform this risky stunt!

← His reaction speed meets or exceeds that of Madara in his Ten Tails Jinchūriki Form. It's the height of sensory ability!

Hmmm. All I see is him being capable of mastering the nature of chakra with skill.

Did you intentionally miss this:

From what is translated other than the S06P physiological saying, it says that this is a technique that allows the user to quickly grasp the nature of Chakra with the skill of a well-studied, highly sensitive master.

A tech that allows the user to wield chakra with the skill of a master, meaning, mastery over chakra; in simpler terms, chakra control? The Nature here doesn't mean elemental nature, but the nitty-gritty aspects or inherent qualities of Chakra itself.

So yeah, no.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Sasuke obviously.