Level cap in Naruto

[LeSauce]

The strongest one person can get in Naruto, without having some kind of special power related to the Sage or Bijuu, is SM Naruto's tier. This includes MS Sasuke, Minato, Itachi, 4th Raikage, 3rd Raikage etc.

You can argue what tier these each belong to and tell me i'm wrong, but the fact is that if each one of the opponents in this tier were faced against one another they would each give each other a hard time, i.e. It wouldn't be an easy fight. Don't take it as me saying that they're all on equal ground.

No one has been able to be stronger than this tier without having some relation to the sage. This means that every single person has a level cap in Naruto and that the new generation will at most reach this level of strength.

TY and Sasuke solos your fav.

 

[Passerby]

Gai stomps everyone in your list

 

[LordGamatatsu]

Hashirama m8

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

<div class="bbWrapper">Naruto and Sasuke are both transmigrants.<br /> <br /> 8th gate Guy is probably the cap and tiers above them.</div>

 

[lndra]

Sasuke believes Boruto will surpass his father but we all know he's talking out of his ass.

Unless Kishimoto really bull shits this.

 

[LeSauce]

Gai stomps everyone in your list

Gai is special. He has 8 gates.

Hashirama m8

Hashirama is a transmigant. He was born to be that strong.

Naruto and Sasuke are both transmigrants.

8th gate Guy is probably the cap and tiers above them.

Yeah, but SM and MS are attainable to others who aren't transmigants. I could take them out and it would be the same though

Sasuke believes Boruto will surpass his father but we all know he's talking out of his ass.

Unless Kishimoto really bull shits this.

He must be talking about achievements or something, like the new always surpasses the old or something.

There's absolutely no way Boruto ever reaches Naruto's level... Logically.

 

[lndra]

He must be talking about achievements or something, like the new always surpasses the old or something.

There's absolutely no way Boruto ever reaches Naruto's level... Logically.

That also makes sense. Here's the snippet

Spoiler

"I can sense that guy’s chakra.” Sasuke said, “…In other words, that means he hasn’t died yet.”
Sasuke’s words had a silent, but powerful warmth.
“…Sasuke-occhan, why did you bother with someone like me?”
“You’re really a strong shinobi.” Sasuke said. “I lost to your dad, but you can become a man who’ll surpass him.”
“…How can you say something like that?!”
These words were completely different from Katasuke’s flattery. These words were extremely heavy. That was how Boruto finally understood the true weight behind beating his dad.
“You’re his son, and furthermore my best disciple, aren’t you? And most importantly, you…”
For one second, Boruto thought he was going to cry.
This man was still calling him his disciple.
Him, who’d fought with borrowed power instead of the skills he’d been taught by his master.
“You’re even more of an usuratonkachi than Naruto was.”
“…by usuratonkachi…you mean…?”
“Someone who hates to lose.”

 

[ROHAN]

Sasuke believes Boruto will surpass his father but we all know he's talking out of his ass.

Unless Kishimoto really bull shits this.

You should know that the "New Generation surpassing the Old" is not just based on Power. It is based on Ideals. Naruto is not immortal, he will die eventually. After that who will save the World from Evil ? (It's not important whether the evil is on the level of Kaguya). That's when Boruto comes in the picture. As the successor to the ideals of the previous Generation and the new protector, Boruto will surpass Naruto even if he is not stronger than him.

It is the same as how Naruto surpassed Jiraya and Nagato. This was based not on power, but Ideals.

 

[Endles Waltz]

Hashirama, Madara, and Gai are way both that level.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Guy is well above that lvl cap

 

[TheSageOfNinetails]

Gai has no relation to the Sage and his 8 gates surpasses everyone on that list.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=19697884" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-19697884">LeSauce said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Yeah, but SM and MS are attainable to others who aren't transmigants. I could take them out and it would be the same though </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>True but they'd be lessers versions of what they were. Madara and Sasuke's MS might've been different and SM Naruto would be nerfed slightly in natural energy capacity/gathering.<br /> <br /> Probably anyway.<br /> <br /> Anyone can use the 8 gates if they train I think btw.</div>

 

[lndra]

You should know that the "New Generation surpassing the Old" is not just based on Power. It is based on Ideals. Naruto is not immortal, he will die eventually. After that who will save the World from Evil ? (It's not important whether the evil is on the level of Kaguya). That's when Boruto comes in the picture. As the successor to the ideals of the previous Generation and the new protector, Boruto will surpass Naruto even if he is not stronger than him.

It is the same as how Naruto surpassed Jiraya and Nagato. This was based not on power, but Ideals.

Makes sense given that his dream is protecting the Village in the dark. I guess what they would inherit would be the cooperation that the Kage's established with each other thanks to the help of Naruto?

 

[LeSauce]

That also makes sense. Here's the snippet

Spoiler

"I can sense that guy’s chakra.” Sasuke said, “…In other words, that means he hasn’t died yet.”
Sasuke’s words had a silent, but powerful warmth.
“…Sasuke-occhan, why did you bother with someone like me?”
“You’re really a strong shinobi.” Sasuke said. “I lost to your dad, but you can become a man who’ll surpass him.”
“…How can you say something like that?!”
These words were completely different from Katasuke’s flattery. These words were extremely heavy. That was how Boruto finally understood the true weight behind beating his dad.
“You’re his son, and furthermore my best disciple, aren’t you? And most importantly, you…”
For one second, Boruto thought he was going to cry.
This man was still calling him his disciple.
Him, who’d fought with borrowed power instead of the skills he’d been taught by his master.
“You’re even more of an usuratonkachi than Naruto was.”
“…by usuratonkachi…you mean…?”
“Someone who hates to lose.”

Yeah, it seems as if that's what they're talking about. Unless there was a fight that we've never heard of. I agree with the post below \/.

You should know that the "New Generation surpassing the Old" is not just based on Power. It is based on Ideals. Naruto is not immortal, he will die eventually. After that who will save the World from Evil ? (It's not important whether the evil is on the level of Kaguya). That's when Boruto comes in the picture. As the successor to the ideals of the previous Generation and the new protector, Boruto will surpass Naruto even if he is not stronger than him.

It is the same as how Naruto surpassed Jiraya and Nagato. This was based not on power, but Ideals.

Guy is well above that lvl cap

Gai has to die to reach that level. Also, I did say there were special things that made you go beyond that. This is more of a general rule.

Hashirama, Madara, and Gai are way both that level.

Hashirama and Madara were Transmigants.

True but they'd be lessers versions of what they were. Madara and Sasuke's MS might've been different and SM Naruto would be nerfed slightly in natural energy capacity/gathering.

Probably anyway.

Anyone can use the 8 gates if they train I think btw.

A lot of people can also become Jins, but hardly anyone does.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=19697994" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-19697994">LeSauce said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> A lot of people can also become Jins, but hardly anyone does. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>No they can't...Not if they don't want be engulfed by their beast..or else the 8 tails hosts before Bee wouldn't have died. Gaara wouldn't have rampaged. Etc.</div>

 

[LeSauce]

No they can't...Not if they don't want be engulfed by their beast..or else the 8 tails hosts before Bee wouldn't have died. Gaara wouldn't have rampaged. Etc.

Yes. I didn't say everyone can, but many people can. Also, not everyone can learn 8 gates. Kakashi can't.

 

[Endles Waltz]

Hashirama and Madara were Transmigants.

True, I thought you only meant actual power-ups like the ones Naruto and Sasuke got from Hagoromo.

Still Gai can reach way above that level, but he needs to sacrifice his life to do so.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=19698013" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-19698013">LeSauce said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Yes. I didn't say everyone can, but many people can. Also, not everyone can learn 8 gates. Kakashi can't. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Barely anyone can become a perfect jin...<br /> <br /> Kakashi can do about 2 gates and he doesn't even specialize in them. If you train like Guy. You can.</div>

 

[SatanicGod]

Yes. I didn't say everyone can, but many people can. Also, not everyone can learn 8 gates. Kakashi can't.

Yeah and unless you have the body for it, you can't learn SM...

 

[LeSauce]

Barely anyone can become a perfect jin...

Kakashi can do about 2 gates and he doesn't even specialize in them. If you train like Guy. You can.

If you think about it like that, then everyone would use 8 gates, but you're right, I can't find anything that says that 8 gates is limited to a certain amount of people.

That really isn't the point of the thread though. The point is that there's a level cap most will fall under, though there are a few exceptions.