Edo Deidara vs Minato

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It's not a rape.

A single tagged Kunai will get countered by one of his smaller bombs. Half of Sasuke's win was accredited to his Raiton, and it was still no easy task for him. Minato would take Alive Deidara out in a similar way to Sasuke though, letting him play it out until C0 and then swiftly teleporting away.

And even if Shishō Fūin was designed for people (which it's not), sealing Edo Deidara inside yourself isn't a practical long-term solution. The fourth databook points out that the aforementioned's counterpart, Ura Shishō Fūin, was designed for sealing people away and keeping them in... Where the former was designed for drawing power out.

And here's another caveat; if he did use Shishō Fūin to seal Edo Deidara, and Edo Deidara was under his own control, the latter could cancel himself and end up taking Minato with him back to the Pure Land because of the bind that exists between them.


Of course Minato is much more skilled, quicker etc but being Edo, he has opportunities and advantages that he didn't have when he was alive.

Who told you shisho Fuin was designed for people? It's for sealing targets inside a human or object as stated in the db.

The user isn't sealing the opponent inside themself :lmao. This isn't RDS
 

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Minato teaches him why yellow hair is his trademark.
 

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C0 is a factor when he has to go through 1. 2. 3. 4.

Just assuming Minato would be so fascinated that he'll opt not to do anything anyways. Makes good sense to me.

Oh C4...We really have to go through this process again , ,

C3 is the only plausible counter but then again the prep isn't something that can be done before a speedster like Minato acts. Plus how's Deidara going to get that high? When Minato can instantly get there and kill him from a reasonable distance. Unless we're assuming his bird is so fast that it would get to a ridiculous position before Minato catches up..? Besides what if they opt to use a strategy whereby they Minato's clone gets summoned to Mount Myoboku waterfalls tags it and then returns back. Can't he just then redirect C3 there? Nothing hard.
 

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C0 is a factor when he has to go through 1. 2. 3. 4.

Just assuming Minato would be so fascinated that he'll opt not to do anything anyways. Makes good sense to me.

Oh C4...We really have to go through this process again , ,

C3 is the only plausible counter but then again the prep isn't something that can be done before a speedster like Minato acts. Plus how's Deidara going to get that high? When Minato can instantly get there and kill him from a reasonable distance. Unless we're assuming his bird is so fast that it would get to a ridiculous position before Minato catches up..? Besides what if they opt to use a strategy whereby they Minato's clone gets summoned to Mount Myoboku waterfalls tags it and then returns back. Can't he just then redirect C3 there? Nothing hard.

Dear god, what do you think Minato is going to do while C4 is being made? Shunsin away? Like Sasuke tried to do and would have still failed clearly had he not seen its range which Minato CAN'T do, not to mention he has no clue that nanobombs are a thing he'll stop moving when he assumes the bomb was a misfire.

Reacting to Sasuke with C1's > Reacting to Kunai with C1's

Dislike my post, don't answer cause you hold grudges whatever.

Don't spout crap.
 

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Dear god, what do you think Minato is going to do while C4 is being made? Shunsin away? Like Sasuke tried to do and would have still failed clearly had he not seen its range which Minato CAN'T do, not to mention he has no clue that nanobombs are a thing he'll stop moving when he assumes the bomb was a misfire.

Reacting to Sasuke with C1's > Reacting to Kunai with C1's

Dislike my post, don't answer cause you hold grudges whatever.

Don't spout crap.
Minato would feel the cloud of chakra approaching him. All he has to do is to look at Deidara's position, feel the cloud of chakra, and get away from it.
 

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Minato would feel the cloud of chakra approaching him. All he has to do is to look at Deidara's position, feel the cloud of chakra, and get away from it.

..... Feel the clould of chakra? He has to switch to sensing mode, which he has no reason to do to see if an explosion misfired and even if he did by then the cloud would be upon him, as he can't do it while using shunsin.
 

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..... Feel the clould of chakra? He has to switch to sensing mode, which he has no reason to do to see if an explosion misfired and even if he did by then the cloud would be upon him, as he can't do it while using shunsin.
Given Minato's intellect, he'd know something is wrong seeing a huge clay bomb turning into a dud. Rest of it is easy.
 

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Dear god, what do you think Minato is going to do while C4 is being made? Shunsin away? Like Sasuke tried to do and would have still failed clearly had he not seen its range which Minato CAN'T do, not to mention he has no clue that nanobombs are a thing he'll stop moving when he assumes the bomb was a misfire.


Dear God how is Deidara going to get that high before Minato acts? Smh not to mention he also doesn't have intel on Minato so it is what it is. I know you hate reading but here is my analysis:

- Minato has summonings like Bunta capable of jumping high enough(Seen the in the same scan I'm going to show) and spitting this out towards Deidara while we know the ridiculous prep of C4 with the fact that Deidara WHO IS NOT A SENSOR doesn't look at his opponents : Lol he even closes his eyes as well. Not to mention even with such jumping prowess, I don't know why Minato who stands on top its head can use that opportunity to throw a kunai at Deidara. Oh and I see people love using the one he tried to use against Onoki, now unless you can prove to me the range that very version covers or you can tell me how it works, then I don't think we should even bring that up.

Reacting to Sasuke with C1's > Reacting to Kunai with C1's

Uhmm no...Deidara already had C1 prepared here (Bottom panel and please read because he said he increased his chakra levels) . If you think he'll be reacting or keeping up with Minato who could throw a Kunai fast enough before Kakashi could even start warping Obito despite Kamui being activated first, could throw it before Gaara who had the head start with employing his Desert Wave could complete it. All can be seen here . Deidara couldn't even react to Kamui at first. Not a chance.

Dislike my post, don't answer cause you hold grudges whatever.

Listen..This is nonsense. I don't care about this and I don't hold grudges let alone with someone I don't know. I dislike your post because I want to and I actually don't like what you're saying. So? Big deal, you talk about me to people but do I call you out? Please jump in a salty water.

Don't spout crap.

Listen..You're just emotional but that's what you get for insulting people unnecessarily. I don't care how you feel honestly but I'm spitting crap? Please read your horrendous post before you judge. What you say next determines whether or not I'll reply.

Oh and Deidara had to be warned to live. Not sure how he's standing against Minato who's on a total different league.

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Dear God how is Deidara going to get that high before Minato acts? Smh not to mention he also doesn't have intel on Minato so it is what it is.

He's used the strategy of bouncing Kunai off with explosions before, is this manga or no intel? How high do you think he has to go for this lmfao, he can create the bomb THEN leave its range. Guess what Deidara's hands are doing while forming C4 btw: nothing, he can easily form a C1 to counter any FTG kunai Minato tries to throw at him.



- Minato has summonings like Bunta capable of jumping high enough(Seen the in the same scan I'm going to show) and spitting this out towards Deidara while we know the ridiculous prep of C4 with the fact that Deidara WHO IS NOT A SENSOR doesn't look at his opponents : Lol he even closes his eyes as well. Not to mention even with such jumping prowess, I don't know why Minato who stands on top its head can use that opportunity to throw a kunai at Deidara. Oh and I see people love using the one he tried to use against Onoki, now unless you can prove to me the range that very version covers or you can tell me how it works, then I don't think we should even bring that up.


You always say ridiculous prep like its ****ing as long as Jiraiya's genjutsu IT WAS ONE SCAN - in which Sasuke a shinobi known for being unphased by nearly everything and being able to react couldn't do shit :lol, what are you talking about closed eyes? We couldn't see them, but we can see that its still open in the other scan

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Not to mention that was a clone and the real Deidara was still watching from the clay bird, anyways he kept his eyes open here



Uhmm no...Deidara already had C1 prepared here (Bottom panel and please read because he said he increased his chakra levels)

It doesn't have to be C1's if thats what your insinuating, any explosive would halt a kunai, and its funny how you ask me to read but then you couldn't realize he threw them all in the next scan :lol, and the one he used against Sasuke came directly out of his mouth on his palm :lol he was able to react and detonate it. Also Deidara would be making explosives from the start of this battle.....you think he's just going to sit there on his bird and wait for Minato to make the first move?

. If you think he'll be reacting or keeping up with Minato who could throw a Kunai fast enough before Kakashi could even start warping Obito despite Kamui being activated first, could throw it before Gaara who had the head start with employing his Desert Wave could complete it. All can be seen here . Deidara couldn't even react to Kamui at first. Not a chance.

-Kamui's activation is slowed as the user's stamina is lowered

-Deidara didn't know what it was.....or that Kakashi was charging it, it took Kakashi a good 2 chapters to charge it :lol saying Deidara noticed and just couldn't react over two chapters is idiotic.

-Desert wave? He set up a wall .-.





Listen..This is nonsense. I don't care about this and I don't hold grudges let alone with someone I don't know. I dislike your post because I want to and I actually don't like what you're saying. So? Big deal, you talk about me to people but do I call you out? Please jump in a salty water.

How can you dislike stan.......



Listen..You're just emotional but that's what you get for insulting people unnecessarily. I don't care how you feel honestly but I'm spitting crap? Please read your horrendous post before you judge. What you say next determines whether or not I'll reply.

I'm fine ? :lol



Oh and Deidara had to be warned to live. Not sure how he's standing against Minato who's on a total different league.

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Had to be warned after Tobi had distracted him.....Terrible logic.
 

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If he could barely keep up with Sasuke's shunshin, how is this even a match?
 

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He's used the strategy of bouncing Kunai off with explosions before, is this manga or no intel? How high do you think he has to go for this lmfao, he can create the bomb THEN leave its range. Guess what Deidara's hands are doing while forming C4 btw: nothing, he can easily form a C1 to counter any FTG kunai Minato tries to throw at him.

So? I've already shown feats of Minato's Kunai outpacing what Deidara can bring in. Simple and you can forget about that Kakashi scan considering the distance and prep before hand and considering he's not Minato as well.

Don't even bother telling me again that he's going to use C1 to counter when he has to prep it here once again

Not to mention if what you're saying about this guy being able to react with an explosion made sense, then he should have been able to react with it here to finish off Sasuke quickly but he clearly jumped away to prep his explosive because they were not ready at that point. Simple and I don't want any argument that argues what's clearly shown there.


You always say ridiculous prep like its ****ing as long as Jiraiya's genjutsu IT WAS ONE SCAN - in which Sasuke a shinobi known for being unphased by nearly everything and being able to react couldn't do shit :lol, what are you talking about closed eyes? We couldn't see them, but we can see that its still open in the other scan

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Not to mention that was a clone and the real Deidara was still watching from the clay bird, anyways he kept his eyes open here

Take your poor arguments elsewhere..Not interested since anyone who reads my post would see why C4 is a complete non factor here. That's clear fact because the denial here is beyond real. Do you not see how many panels? 1. Wasted how many panels eating clay 2. Spitting it out still in the bottom here with Sasuke still looking at him and puzzled 3. He then changes his stance by bending down further in a new panel while he's still spitting

- So? Since when was Sasuke Minato? Minato has means to deal with him and is much stronger than Hebi Sasuke. Don't bother with these claims if you think Minato would stand there.

- He's looking downwards later...That's when he was breathing in with his eyes opened. Besides, it's evident he had his eyes closed to anyone anyways

- Deidara would never have the opportunity to switch out with a clone like he did against Sasuke which could have been due to the aftermath of C2. I hope you're not even saying he's using that weak method of C4 because that's not even a case here.


It doesn't have to be C1's if thats what your insinuating, any explosive would halt a kunai, and its funny how you ask me to read but then you couldn't realize he threw them all in the next scan :lol, and the one he used against Sasuke came directly out of his mouth on his palm :lol he was able to react and detonate it. Also Deidara would be making explosives from the start of this battle.....you think he's just going to sit there on his bird and wait for Minato to make the first move?

Then you shouldn't have brought in C1 in the first place smh. No matter what it is, get the feats that Deidara is going to physically react to that by eating clay and throwing it(Ridiculous). The bold is Lololol and I'm going to tell you to read again. He says I'm going to have to increase my attacks to C1 in order to keep up with his movements..Why didn't he throw one previously when Sasuke tried to blitz him? No answer obviously. He could throw one after the swallowing and increasing of chakra levels to C1 because his hand also swallowed after he had searched(Same scan again and read the SFX )..Something he can't do as a reaction to Minato's attack. Never..If you're going to suggest other random explosives, bring one that doesn't have require Deidara eating and swallowing after searching his bag. No matter what you bring, you'll never have one that suggest he can use this as a reaction to Minato's thrown Kunai or Minato's speed


-Kamui's activation is slowed as the user's stamina is lowered

Lmao. Hmm Poor point because his stamina wasn't as low when he used Kamui multiple times after..Not that it would matter anyways because he fully well rested in the Kamui world before he came as he even warped the arms of the Gedo before Madara could fully summon it(Space time Ninjutsu) . Obito in a terrible state could warp Sakura before Madara's attack could land , Kakashi in a dead state could warp Naruto before Obito who was in a good condition could warp in his rods . Like he confirmed Kakashi to be faster than what he warped . Like when Kakashi warped in the Rasengan thrown at him by Madara shortly after that case you're saying. He was not in a that much of a bad state like you're claiming and his Kamui wasn't slowed down because we've seen cases where he's weak but then still shown good feats of it.

-Deidara didn't know what it was.....or that Kakashi was charging it, it took Kakashi a good 2 chapters to charge it :lol saying Deidara noticed and just couldn't react over two chapters is idiotic.

What is idiotic is the silly claims...Is this suggesting Deidara would have reacted or faired better or what? Let me sig something please. I showed feats that stand clearly. Don't bother with your sub par arguments.


-Desert wave? He set up a wall .-.

Sabakuha is known as desert wave...Feats that once again make your arguments extremely shaky. That he'll be able to prep a bomb or so and react to a thrown Kunai which could be time at the ground or so around him. Just like against Madara.

Not to mention Sasuke could Shunshin and almost kill Deidara....Minato is way way faster. He can even Shunsin close and throw is kuani or something. There shouldn't be an argument here.

Had to be warned after Tobi had distracted him.....Terrible logic.

As if that's a factor .

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imma find out zex's IP address and ride up on his crib i bet when i start beatin his ass hes gonna ask to blow me like he does to his fufu lame friends

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Dear god, what do you think Minato is going to do while C4 is being made? Shunsin away? Like Sasuke tried to do and would have still failed clearly had he not seen its range which Minato CAN'T do, not to mention he has no clue that nanobombs are a thing he'll stop moving when he assumes the bomb was a misfire.

Reacting to Sasuke with C1's > Reacting to Kunai with C1's

Dislike my post, don't answer cause you hold grudges whatever.

Don't spout crap.

Did you think people would be blind and not see the Tobis full on warning to deidara, alerting deidara that sasuke was behind him. That's the only reason he reacted.
 

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If Deidara wants to use C0, he can just replace himself with a clone on another bird like he did here

He can easily accomplish this subtly given the AOE of his explosions easily allow him to get out of Minato's LoS. Once he's done that he simply;
1. Has the Deidara clone fly into Minato
2. Minato tried to attack it
3. Clone explodes.
4. Minato teleports away and is unsure of what happened.
5. The real Deidara is now nearby with C0 prepped and kills himself.

Inb4 Minato Shunshins 10km away.
 
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