Sasori vs Gaara

[PT1990]

Obviously. However I'm talking about the sand inside his gourd.

Mate, that could NOT fit into that small puppet. There is just NO way.

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[CalamityHeart]

Did you see those bigass blocks of IS he created? All that cound not fit in that small puppet. Sasori could increase the amount of IS drastically very fast. I guess that 3rd Kazekage was similar to Rasa, Gaaras father, who could produce large amounts of Golden Dust in no time wharsoever. Keep in mind, that 3rd was said to be considerably stronger than him. And if 3rd could do it, so can the puppet that was made of him, since thats how human puppets works.

*sigh* This makes me wish we actually saw the Third Kazekage rezzed in the war.

I concede it's possible the puppet could naturally produce or summon Iron Sand, which would put the Third Kazekage at mid diff instead of low diff. Sasori said he poisoned the Iron Sand that the puppet used, so that was another hint for me that there was a limited amount at his disposal, and there isn't a way he could reliably say that if he could just make more of his own.

On the other hand, the Iron Sand could just be produced or summoned inside the Kazekage's puppet body and doused in poison on the way out, I suppose. That still limits Sasori's options with the Kazekage. Even with a limitless supply of Iron Sand, Gaara has much more true sand readily available than Sasori has to prep and funnel out of his puppet.

If Gaara battles aggressively right from that start against the Kazekage puppet when it comes out, Sasori is still forced into a defensive position, since the puppet is still disabled once Gaara can lock up the Kazekage's mechanisms with sand. I reasonably assume Gaara has intel on the Third Kazekage and his abilities. I'm still in Gaara's corner on this.

 

[solorflare99]

Mate, that could NOT fit into that small puppet. There is just NO way.

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Mate this is a fictional story consisting of supernatural occurrences. We have seen gaara have more sand in his gourd than possible and the same can be applied to Sasori.

 

[Curse Mark]

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Edit: You see Ay catch the Susano sword with one arm lmfao

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. 1st time I notice this smh. Bee is physically stronger then Ay in v2 Raiton shroud, and that was Ay in v1. I guess Bee plays around with legged v3 Susano's strength wise.

Whats the most damage anyones taken from a susanno punch?
(not danzo he was crushed to a pulp)
and with ay i guess thats true its hard to see whether or not its a sword but wasnt madara playing with them at that point anyways?

 

[PT1990]

Mate this is a fictional story consisting of supernatural occurrences. We have seen gaara have more sand in his gourd than possible and the same can be applied to Sasori.

More, but not by this degree. Besides, do you believe that 3rd could only use such limited amounts of IS? I dont think so.

 

[solorflare99]

More, but not by this degree. Besides, do you believe that 3rd could only use such limited amounts of IS? I dont think so.

Makes more sense than creating iron out of nothing. What makes him more special than Gaara? He can't simply make more sand out of no where. Not only that, but it wasn't just any iron sand, it was coated in Sasori's poison. How does one simply create poison iron sand out of no where, that doesn't just go against real world logic, but Narutoverse logic aswell. He would either use a ninjutsu or summoning jutsu to accomplish that. He didn't use any ninjutsu and if it was summoning jutsu then that would establish a finite amount.

 

[PT1990]

Makes more sense than creating iron out of nothing.

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And why not? Thats Gaaras old man in action. A guy who was cinsiderably weaker than 3rd.

 

[solorflare99]

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And why not? Thats Gaaras old man in action. A guy who was cinsiderably weaker than 3rd.

So being stronger than someone else gives another person someone else's feat? I guess Hashirama now has Flying Thunder God jutsu:eww:

 

[PT1990]

So being stronger than someone else gives another person someone else's feat? I guess Hashirama now has Flying Thunder God jutsu:eww:

Listen: with such limited amounts of IS 3rd would naver be seen as Kazekage who was by far the strongest of all.

 

[solorflare99]

Listen: with such limited amounts of IS 3rd would naver be seen as Kazekage who was by far the strongest of all.

Lol have you seen the 3rd in action? No, such what you state is a baseless claim.

 

[PT1990]

Lol have you seen the 3rd in action? No, such what you state is a baseless claim.

No, but I have seen that Sasori could quickly increase amounts of IS. I have also seen Rasa in action, who was very similar to 3rd, as they both used mangetic field, although with weaker version of metal dust. Thats enough for me.

 

[Apêx1]

Sasori created a lake worth of Iron Sand. People love to use the claim that Sasori can only use IS that's already stored inside the puppet smh.

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[solorflare99]

No, but I have seen that Sasori could quickly increase amounts of IS. I have also seen Rasa in action, who was very similar to 3rd, as they both used mangetic field, although with weaker version of metal dust. Thats enough for me.

You neglect to acknowledge the fact that they are two different people :eww: You can think what you want, but don't expect people to take your hypothesis seriously in a Vs match.

 

[PT1990]

You neglect to acknowledge the fact that they are two different people :eww: You can think what you want, but don't expect people to take your hypothesis seriously in a Vs match.

I wouldnt even call it hypothesis, I would call it a simple logic. Either 3rd could use bigger quantities of IS, or IS was that much stronger than any other form of sand. There is no other option. Well, maybe if 3rd had some other, even more powerful weapon. But we already know from the manga that he was aknowledged as the strongest Kazekage becuase of IS.

 

[DrProof]

I wouldnt even call it hypothesis, I would call it a simple logic. Either 3rd could use bigger quantities of IS, or IS was that much stronger than any other form of sand. There is no other option. Well, maybe if 3rd had some other, even more powerful weapon. But we already know from the manga that he was aknowledged as the strongest Kazekage becuase of IS.

Strongest Kazekage BEFORE Gaara took over. Gaara would murk this dude. Sandaime Kazekage is savage tho.

 

[solorflare99]

I wouldnt even call it hypothesis, I would call it a simple logic. Either 3rd could use bigger quantities of IS, or IS was that much stronger than any other form of sand. There is no other option. Well, maybe if 3rd had some other, even more powerful weapon. But we already know from the manga that he was aknowledged as the strongest Kazekage becuase of IS.

Yet you have never seen the 3rd in action and have nothing to base your hypothesis. Don't expect to be taken serious.

 

[PT1990]

Strongest Kazekage BEFORE Gaara took over. Gaara would murk this dude. Sandaime Kazekage is savage tho.

Where did I say that Sasori wins this? Gaara probably wins this with high diff if Sasori starts with 3rd out, but its only a guess from my part.

Yet you have never seen the 3rd in action and have nothing to base your hypothesis. Don't expect to be taken serious.

I never asked you to agree with me or take me serious, I just gave my opinion on the matter. Besides, nothing to base my hypothesis? I just gave you arguments straight from manga to support my opinion.

 

[Apêx1]

Strongest Kazekage BEFORE Gaara took over. Gaara would murk this dude. Sandaime Kazekage is savage tho.

Gaara already got shat on by Deidara when they stated that. He was ALREADY Kazekage smh.

 

[DrProof]

Gaara already got shat on by Deidara when they stated that. He was ALREADY Kazekage smh.

Bruh.. Gaara would have dominated Deidara if he wasn't protecting the village, and was OC.

Sandaime wouldn't have done any better though if that's how you want to play it.

 

[Apêx1]

Bruh.. Gaara would have dominated Deidara if he wasn't protecting the village, and was OC.

Sandaime wouldn't have done any better though if that's how you want to play it.

Not really, if Deidara was OC he'd have had much more clay and he'd shit on Gaara. The tiny bombs he could hide inside Gaara's sand were overkill. And there's also C4 which can smack Gaara since making small holes in the Sand Dome would lead to his death once he breathes. Would never see the nano bombs either, so that's another thing he has to worry about.

And I didn't say he would've done any better, I'm simply stating facts here. Sandaime>>>Gaara while Gaara was Kazekage.