SM Naruto vs Itachi

[Airbear]

Smh itachi wasn't even trying to directly spawn Amaterasu on sasuke. Lol

 

[TRE MERCER]

How does the bold debunk anything I said? Itachi used Amaterasu on Sasuke. That's fact. Itachi did everything to rid Sasuke of Orochimaru. Meaning he used all of his techniques to make Sasuke to use chakra, and for Oro to come out. Itachi was using Amaterasu on Sasuke and that's fact. He had no problem hitting him. But he was temporarily unable to do so because of Sasuke's speed. My whole point
SM Naruto makes up for the speed loss of KCM Naruto by having greater sensing. SM Naruto is faster than V1 raiton armor, and he makes up the gap to v2 with his sensory ability.

It debunks what you said because Itachi wasn't fighting with the intent to kill what don't you get about this? Yes and hitting Sasuke on the wing forcing him to use oral rebirth is a perfect way to force him to use up all his chakra which would also force Orochimaru to come out this isn't a perfect strategy. He hit his wing with Amaterasu simply because Sasuke had multiple ways to escape that your not making any since. How would Sasuke have escaped Amaterasu if his body was ignited like this[

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] No it doesn't he barely reacted to blind Madara while in SM yet he'll react to v1 Ei full speed stop with the stupid BS.​

I never said Ay and co had no intel on Amaterasu. Cee's words makes it clear that Ay went V2 to counter MS as of whole. Enough said. He's not able to cast Amaterasu on two places. The only way he could do that if both his eyes were capable of Amaterasu, which isn't true. His eye was fast enough to light up that dog in a fast manner.
Rest is already addressed.

Bold what a complete lie. You said this exactly i quote. ''Raikage and his team had no idea that Sasuke had Amaterasu'' I don't see why you lied when i've already had your post in a quote. Tssk still denying the manga huh?

Fodder- They're no ordinary flames stay back.

Cee- Amaterasu ignites whatever he's looking at!

Cee knows Amaterasu ignites whatever he's looking at and guess where he got this information from? The same guys that were watching Killer bee fight. Now please explain why Ei wouldn't have had knowledge on these techs? He did which is why he instantly went v2. If he can use Amaterasu in fast burst that still isn't going to help Naruto either l00l.​

Smh itachi wasn't even trying to directly spawn Amaterasu on sasuke. Lol

Thank you. If it were that easy Danzo would have been dodging Amaterasu instead of wasting his Izanagi's.​

 

[Apêx1]

Actually you're sounding stupid for not thinking Naruto can't outlast Itachi, or that he can't avoid Itachi's arsenal.

No feats to suggest he can dodge a Susano sword continuously. How about we start at that, and you can provide me some scans which prove your point.

lmao how many magtamas can itachi make? The most he's shown every time is a circle of 3, which is easily avoided by Naruto. Itachi wank is real.

Once again, they aren't being used to hit Naruto, but to make him move right (moving left=hit) and the sword comes from that direction. Jesus you are dense.

Was Sasuke using shunshin when he outran Amaterasu for a while? nah
@bold, slap yourself if you think running would tire Naruto out. Naruto stops running>Itachi decides to use Amaterasu>Naruto senses it>starts running>Itachi wastes chakra on a futile act. Go read my reply to YD on the rest of Ama argument. Ain't gonna type it for you again.

Baseless claim is baseless, he most likely was using Shunshin. He doesn't have to say body flicker jutsu for it to be in use smh.
Let's change it up so that I don't have to hear these retarded arguments. Naruto was told to run when Ama was initiated but he didn't start running because as we all know, he's unintelligent

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. He was just standing there. Then when Ama was launched again (Naruto would've noticed the chakra build up since he's a sensor

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, YET Itachi's Amaterasu was already on Cereberus before Naruto could even BEGIN running

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and THEN questioned how his Amaterasu possibly missed. Please don't bring me this stupid fan-fic of Naruto outrunning jack shit, it's not happening when KCM Naruto's reaction AND movement speed are much faster.

smh the return of straw man

The return of the retard Kratos. Straw man=misinterpreting on purpose in this case. You said "Naruto prevents genjutsu by closing his eyes." I said "It's not as effective to fight without sight." I'd love for you to point out the straw man, because the only thing I'm seeing is your incompetence. Fighting while closing your eyes would obviously limit you to an extent, it's non-debatable that sensing+perception>sensing.

hmmmm Itachi's clones being faster and having better pre cog than SM Naruto? Slap yourself again.

Get me Naruto's speed feats lmfao. And now point out to me where I said Itachi's pre-cog>SM's. And you have the balls to call me a straw man lmfao.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Kratos give up you claimed SM Naruto can dodge Amaterasu via running around l0l and you've been prove terrible wrong stop digging yourself a hole and just admit your wrong.​

 

[Lord Tywin]

It debunks what you said because Itachi wasn't fighting with the intent to kill what don't you get about this? Yes and hitting Sasuke on the wing forcing him to use oral rebirth is a perfect way to force him to use up all his chakra which would also force Orochimaru to come out this isn't a perfect strategy. He hit his wing with Amaterasu simply because Sasuke had multiple ways to escape that your not making any since. How would Sasuke have escaped Amaterasu if his body was ignited like this[

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] No it doesn't he barely reacted to blind Madara while in SM yet he'll react to v1 Ei full speed stop with the stupid BS.​

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smh You're implying that Itachi knew about oral rebirth. And if we go by what you're saying, Itachi knew Sasuke had a counter to Amaterasu, so he would have used Amaterasu to instantly hit Sasuke. Meaning Itachi kew that amaterasu wouldn't be an end game for Sasuke. Therefore killing intent or no killing intent doesn't matter. Here is the scan of Sasuke running before itachi used Amaterasu for the second time

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If Sasuke hadn't started running he would gotten Amaterasu to the face. Oral rebirth completely shits on being ignited by amaterasu like that. it cuts the skin, finding a way through amaterasu. Against Madara it goes to Madara's feats. foh trying to downplay what Naruto is capable of.

Bold what a complete lie. You said this exactly i quote. ''Raikage and his team had no idea that Sasuke had Amaterasu'' I don't see why you lied when i've already had your post in a quote. Tssk still denying the manga huh?

Fodder- They're no ordinary flames stay back.

Cee- Amaterasu ignites whatever he's looking at!

Cee knows Amaterasu ignites whatever he's looking at and guess where he got this information from? The same guys that were watching Killer bee fight. Now please explain why Ei wouldn't have had knowledge on these techs? He did which is why he instantly went v2. If he can use Amaterasu in fast burst that still isn't going to help Naruto either l00l.​

Thank you. If it were that easy Danzo would have been dodging Amaterasu instead of wasting his Izanagi's.​

Sorry about that. Forgot for a second what I typed earlier. My point still stands. Cee's statement makes it as clear as day that Raikage used V2 to counter MS as of whole. Stop beating around the bush.

 

[Lord Tywin]

I mean you're the guy that reads the manga from left to right, while not even understanding it.

 

[Varrah]

smh no. Raikage dodged that shit from this distance

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Sensing shits all over that.
With Naruto constantly running around he'd easily avoid Amaterasu. SM Naruto>>>>>Hebi Sasuke in speed and sensing

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Things are a bit different;

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why Ē was keeping his chakra level high when Ē was standing and waiting for Sasuke to use his Mangekyō Sharingan, and why Ē was continuously appearing around Sasuke. The

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chakra Ē has allowed Ē to spend—and

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—a shunshin ready state for extended periods of time, and maintain a high enough chakra output to chain his shunshin together for multiple uses as well as allowing him to shunshin from a considerable

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away from his opponent. Ē's

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allows him to alter or change the direction of his shunshin to whatever it is that Ē is reacted to. That said, Ē's reflexive ability in conjunction to his bijū-like chakra enabled Ē to read the activation of Amaterasu by reacting to Sasuke's movements: every time Sasuke tried to move or readjust himself Ē saw it, reacted, and would shunshin again and again in and out of Sasuke's peripheral vision, chaining multiple shushin's together, that

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the Sharingan's precognition ability, and although Sasuke could react to Ē's movements, Sasuke couldn't continuously do it in a matter that would hinder Ē, which effectively left Sasuke paralyzed so to speak. When Ē smacked the dog shit out of

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he planned to do to it

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first, but couldn't: in this specific instance Minato was the superior shinobi compared to Sasuke (and Ē).

You would need to provide evidence that Naruto's reflexes and speed are equivalent to Ē's or that Sage Mode has attributes comparable to the that of Ē's if you are using Ē as the basis of your argument .​

 

[Blunt]

Godfather, you're making me cringe with these arguments.

 

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[/COLOR]smh You're implying that Itachi knew about oral rebirth. And if we go by what you're saying, Itachi knew Sasuke had a counter to Amaterasu, so he would have used Amaterasu to instantly hit Sasuke. Meaning Itachi kew that amaterasu wouldn't be an end game for Sasuke. Therefore killing intent or no killing intent doesn't matter. Here is the scan of Sasuke running before itachi used Amaterasu for the second time

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If Sasuke hadn't started running he would gotten Amaterasu to the face. Oral rebirth completely shits on being ignited by amaterasu like that. it cuts the skin, finding a way through amaterasu. Against Madara it goes to Madara's feats. foh trying to downplay what Naruto is capable of.

Why wouldn't Itachi know about Oral rebirth? He's fought up against the Orochimaru multiple times. Why would he do that? When there would be the possibility that Sasuke couldn't escape one his entire body is up in flames if he tried to escape his skin while his entire body was up in flames he would have been caught by them on his way out. Do you honestly believe Itachi was aiming for Sasuke? If he wanted Sasuke he would have got him. Sasuke couldn't out run Amaterasu while Itachi dragged it around the BF yet you think he can dodge it while it's spawning? BRUHHHHHH. Why would Sasuke sit there and let himself get hit? Not it doesn't if your entire body is covered in the flames using oral rebirth would be pointless since you'll get caught by the flames on the way out of your body. L0l he barely managed against v1 3rd Raikage yet he's going to dodge v2 Ei fastest punch just stop unless your implying that blind Madara is faster than v2 Ei Shunsui blitz?​

Sorry about that. Forgot for a second what I typed earlier. My point still stands. Cee's statement makes it as clear as day that Raikage used V2 to counter MS as of whole. Stop beating around the bush.

You didn't forget you would have kept denying it if hadn't quoted you don't play games. MS as of whole? The only thing they knew about MS was Amaterasu please explain what else could Cee have been talking about? Genjutsu wasn't the problem since Ei recklessly looked into his eyes multiple times so please elaborate on what Cee meant?​

I mean you're the guy that reads the manga from left to right, while not even understanding it.

You know why that happened because i got desperate and refused to take back my point similar to what your doing now.

Your already stating ridiculous things.

1- SM Naruto shunsui is faster than KM's

2- SM Naruto can dodge Ei full speed punch

3- Blind Madara is faster than Ei.​

Godfather, you're making me cringe with these arguments.

Thank you!!!!!!!! Lmao.​

 

[Lord Tywin]

No feats to suggest he can dodge a Susano sword continuously. How about we start at that, and you can provide me some scans which prove your point.

How about one of Naruto's 12 clones he used during the war entering SM and completely shitting on V1 Raikage? Let me repeat: Naruto's clone.

Once again, they aren't being used to hit Naruto, but to make him move right (moving left=hit) and the sword comes from that direction. Jesus you are dense.

Given the pathetic size of those magtamas, a simple turn of the body would let him dodge.

Baseless claim is baseless, he most likely was using Shunshin. He doesn't have to say body flicker jutsu for it to be in use smh.

It sure as hell looked to me as his normal movement. Shunshin hasn't been shown in the manga like normal body movement.

Let's change it up so that I don't have to hear these retarded arguments. Naruto was told to run when Ama was initiated but he didn't start running because as we all know, he's unintelligent

This is why I call you a straw man. Even though Naruto's shown analytical skills, you're coming up with this garbage.

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. He was just standing there. Then when Ama was launched again (Naruto would've noticed the chakra build up since he's a sensor

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, YET Itachi's Amaterasu was already on Cereberus before Naruto could even BEGIN running

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and THEN questioned how his Amaterasu possibly missed. Please don't bring me this stupid fan-fic of Naruto outrunning jack shit, it's not happening when KCM Naruto's reaction AND movement speed are much faster.

smh in that first scan you see the difference between two sensors. Nagato saw a MS technique coming long before Itachi opened his eyes. Naruto's own statement, making a comparison between KCM and SM in terms of sensing

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This scan literally shits on that garbage coming out of your mouth in bold.
Here is a question: Why would Naruto even worry about Amaterasu when his chakra arms and cloak completely shit on it?

Do everyone a favor, and remove that X from your name. Ape sounds much better.

The return of the retard Kratos. Straw man=misinterpreting on purpose in this case. You said "Naruto prevents genjutsu by closing his eyes." I said "It's not as effective to fight without sight." I'd love for you to point out the straw man, because the only thing I'm seeing is your incompetence. Fighting while closing your eyes would obviously limit you to an extent, it's non-debatable that sensing+perception>sensing.

You're bullshitting your way through this. Blind mofos like Madara had no problem blitzing people. We have Naruto fighting in total darkness without a problem. Why you reach? You got Itach's **** in your mouth.

Get me Naruto's speed feats lmfao. And now point out to me where I said Itachi's pre-cog>SM's. And you have the balls to call me a straw man lmfao.

This is the garbage you typed

Yet Itachi's clones can easily dodge that with their pre-cog and superior speed.

Why don't you show me a feat of Itachi's clone doing anything remotely close to what Naruto's clones did in the war.

 

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Do everyone a favor, and remove that X from your name. Ape sounds much better.

Lmao BRUUUUH.​

 

[Lord Tywin]

Things are a bit different;

C̄

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why Ē was keeping his chakra level high when Ē was standing and waiting for Sasuke to use his Mangekyō Sharingan, and why Ē was continuously appearing around Sasuke. The

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chakra Ē has allowed Ē to spend—and

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—a shunshin ready state for extended periods of time, and maintain a high enough chakra output to chain his shunshin together for multiple uses as well as allowing him to shunshin from a considerable

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away from his opponent. Ē's

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allows him to alter or change the direction of his shunshin to whatever it is that Ē is reacted to. That said, Ē's reflexive ability in conjunction to his bijū-like chakra enabled Ē to read the activation of Amaterasu by reacting to Sasuke's movements: every time Sasuke tried to move or readjust himself Ē saw it, reacted, and would shunshin again and again in and out of Sasuke's peripheral vision, chaining multiple shushin's together, that

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the Sharingan's precognition ability, and although Sasuke could react to Ē's movements, Sasuke couldn't continuously do it in a matter that would hinder Ē, which effectively left Sasuke paralyzed so to speak. When Ē smacked the dog shit out of

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he planned to do to it

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first, but couldn't: in this specific instance Minato was the superior shinobi compared to Sasuke (and Ē).

You would need to provide evidence that Naruto's reflexes and speed are equivalent to Ē's or that Sage Mode has attributes comparable to the that of Ē's if you are using Ē as the basis of your argument .​

What I'm trying to say is that Amaterasu has shown to be dodged by keeping a continuous movement. Just like How Hebi Sasuke was able to temporarily avoid Amaterasu. It wasn't Sasuke's shunshin, as it didn't look anything like Shunshin. As for the Ay argument, Ay doesn't have the sensory abilities of a SM User. He had to perceptually see and react to Amaterasu. SM is sort of a precognition. Naruto can sense Amaterasu coming before it even being casted. As in the war, Naruto's clone was easily able to dodge a V1 raiton armor user. Naruto also said that SM is better in sensing an attack than KCM. Naruto previously dodged V2 Ay, who dodged Amaterasu from an extremely close range. Now SM giving an obviously better advantage in sending, loses in Speed, but makes up for it in sensing Amaterasu coming before it is casted, hence Naruto would start running. Therefore dodging Amaterasu. As far as I remember Itachi can't really continuously spam Ama for more than couple of seconds, which Naruto can avoid by running around the field.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Why wouldn't Itachi know about Oral rebirth? He's fought up against the Orochimaru multiple times. Why would he do that? When there would be the possibility that Sasuke couldn't escape one his entire body is up in flames if he tried to escape his skin while his entire body was up in flames he would have been caught by them on his way out. Do you honestly believe Itachi was aiming for Sasuke? If he wanted Sasuke he would have got him. Sasuke couldn't out run Amaterasu while Itachi dragged it around the BF yet you think he can dodge it while it's spawning? BRUHHHHHH. Why would Sasuke sit there and let himself get hit? Not it doesn't if your entire body is covered in the flames using oral rebirth would be pointless since you'll get caught by the flames on the way out of your body. L0l he barely managed against v1 3rd Raikage yet he's going to dodge v2 Ei fastest punch just stop unless your implying that blind Madara is faster than v2 Ei Shunsui blitz?​

You didn't forget you would have kept denying it if hadn't quoted you don't play games. MS as of whole? The only thing they knew about MS was Amaterasu please explain what else could Cee have been talking about? Genjutsu wasn't the problem since Ei recklessly looked into his eyes multiple times so please elaborate on what Cee meant?​

You know why that happened because i got desperate and refused to take back my point similar to what your doing now.

Your already stating ridiculous things.

1- SM Naruto shunsui is faster than KM's

2- SM Naruto can dodge Ei full speed punch

3- Blind Madara is faster than Ei.​

Thank you!!!!!!!! Lmao.​

Read what I wrote to Varrah.
About the rest of it. I'm coming up clean, but you can call it what you want.

 

[TRE MERCER]

What I'm trying to say is that Amaterasu has shown to be dodged by keeping a continuous movement.

So Tsunade can dodge Amaterasu if she's in full sprint before the user cast the jutsu?​

Read what I wrote to Varrah.
About the rest of it. I'm coming up clean, but you can call it what you want.

Aww why did you skim through that i had alot of solid points there.​

 

[Lord Tywin]

So Tsunade can dodge Amaterasu if she's in full sprint before the user cast the jutsu?​

Aww why did you skim through that i had alot of solid points there.​

It's relative to a character's speed, so Tsunade can't.

 

[Narutp1sasuke2 LetsGo]

Sage mode Naruto high diff

 

[Lord Tywin]

****en YD's formatting is messing this shit up. Stop that.

 

[TRE MERCER]

****en YD's formatting is messing this shit up. Stop that.

No it was actually you since you quoted me and carried my font center and glow over to your post.

Hebi Sasuke didn't even do a shunsui it was actually just some casual running speed which isn't enough to dodge Amaterasu or else v2 Ei wouldn't have even need a shunsui.
[video]https://youtu.be/5nvadC4ZyQw?t=73[/video]​

 

[King Of Pop]

Do everyone a favor, and remove that X from your name. Ape sounds much better.

lool. the shit killed me

 

[Lord Tywin]

lool. the shit killed me

It fits his Avatar of Goku.