Sasuke can use Preta while using Jutsu now.

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:| Raw NE is the NE Naruto or any SM user absorb to turn into senjutsu for SM. SM attacks are senjutsu enhanced. When pain absorbed Naruto's chakra he absorbed raw NE and couldn't control it that's why he turned into a stone toad.
I just said its still just natural energy but ok you just agreed they turn into stone absorbing NE
 

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I just said its still just natural energy but ok you just agreed they turn into stone absorbing NE
NE isn't senjutsu tho. And people only turn into a stone toad if they can't control it.
 

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And I thought itachi was the most overwanked character
 

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People that dont know SM cannot absorb senjutsu
Juugo absorbs NE and turns it into senjutsu but he don't have SM. You can't absorb senjutsu senjutsu is made by mixing NE/chakra together like SM or Juugo.
 

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Juugo absorbs NE and turns it into senjutsu but he don't have SM. You can't absorb senjutsu senjutsu is made by mixing NE/chakra together like SM or Juugo.

True but jugo had the watered down version it isnt anything like SM users
 
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True but jugi had the watered down version it isnt anything like SM users

Watered down or not you're still missing the point. NE turns people into stone not Senjutsu
 

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Im pretty sure they werent senjutsu enhanced other wise they turn into stone. If it did happen then inconsistency sense manga showed one of pain trying to absorb senjutsu he turned to stone or frog i don't remember

Absorbing Senjutsu chakra =/= absorbing NE. He'll only turn into a frog if he interrupts Naruto from absorbing NE to produce chakra, and even then it would take a huge amount cause Indra's transmigrants can naturally control Senjutsu
 

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True but jugi had the watered down version it isnt anything like SM users
How does he have a watered down version of it if he's constantly absorbing NE passively?
 

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Absorbing Senjutsu chakra =/= absorbing NE. He'll only turn into a frog if he interrupts Naruto from absorbing NE to produce chakra, and even then it would take a huge amount cause Indra's transmigrants can naturally control Senjutsu

Thats fanfic indra transmigrants cant control senjutsu. Only people that control senjutsu are SM users or like Jugo CM stop making things up where in the manga did it ever state that dont bring up theories into this
 

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How does he have a watered down version of it if he's constantly absorbing NE passively?

He can absorb it but becuz of CM and he cant control it thats why he goes savage and berzerk
 
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Watered down or not you're still missing the point. NE turns people into stone not Senjutsu

I know that you the one missing the point senjutsu had NE in you so u still cant absorb it
 

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Thats fanfic indra transmigrants cant control senjutsu. Only people that control senjutsu are SM users or like Jugo CM stop making things up where in the manga did it ever state that dont bring up theories into this

I see you're forgetting the fact Madara said it was easy controlling Hashi's Sage Mode and Sasuke mastered CS level 2 with no training.
 

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I see you're forgetting the fact Madara said it was easy controlling Hashi's Sage Mode and Sasuke mastered CS level 2 with no training.

Hellooo? Thats my point madara used hashirama SM you said indra transmigrants can naturally control senjutsu and senjutsu has natural enegery in it thats why its called senjutsu you cant absorb it
 

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Please, sasuke couldn't even use preta to prevent being solo'd by simple fire release. Momo wrecked XD
 

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Hellooo? Thats my point madara used hashirama SM you said indra transmigrants can naturally control senjutsu and senjutsu has natural enegery in it thats why its called senjutsu you cant absorb it

Are you trolling ? Sage Mode = Senjutsu chakra. CS = Senjutsu chakra. As I stated earlier, absorbing Senjutsu chakra is not the same as absorbing NE.

Madara and Sasuke didn't have to balance NE with their chakra to produce Senjutsu, they directly absorbed Senjutsu from the user hence why they never suffered the effects.
 

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Are you trolling ? Sage Mode = Senjutsu chakra. CS = Senjutsu chakra. As I stated earlier, absorbing Senjutsu chakra is not the same as absorbing NE.

Madara and Sasuke didn't have to balance NE with their chakra to produce Senjutsu, they directly absorbed Senjutsu from the user hence why they never suffered the effects.

Are u not dum. Madara had hashi dna he so he cant suffer anything hes using hashi SM. Sasuke had CM which can absorb NE so it didnt have any effect on him. So SM =senjutsu chakra? Yes it is but theres an amount you can absorb like vote 2 naruto senjutsu powered ultra giant rasen shuriken if you try ti absorb that amount of SM you cant cuz only trained senjutsu users can handle that amount of senjutsu
 
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Are you trolling ? Sage Mode = Senjutsu chakra. CS = Senjutsu chakra. As I stated earlier, absorbing Senjutsu chakra is not the same as absorbing NE.

Madara and Sasuke didn't have to balance NE with their chakra to produce Senjutsu, they directly absorbed Senjutsu from the user hence why they never suffered the effects.

Senjutsu is combining NE with the users own chakra. You can absorb senjutsu as long as the NE is balanced if if the amount of NE is too much you cant absorb it cuz it will be hard to controll if you are not trained in senjutsu and u can turn into stone
 
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Juugo absorbs NE and turns it into senjutsu but he don't have SM. You can't absorb senjutsu senjutsu is made by mixing NE/chakra together like SM or Juugo.

Let me get this straight you can absorb chakra and natural energy but not senjutsu, mixture of both. I see
 

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Let me get this straight you can absorb chakra and natural energy but not senjutsu, mixture of both. I see

Don't take him seriously bro he once said I was wrong that Kakashi can't use chidori without sharingan
 
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