EMS Sasuke and Mu vs EMS Madara

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Condition: Both Sasuke and Madara can use legged armoured V4 versions.

Restriction: Izanagi, PS

Who wins?
 

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Sasuke is a non factor as his best move is the same as Madaras, but far inferior. And if ever becomes visible Madara smokes him.
 

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Madara summons Susanoo. GG.
Madara summons Kyubi. GG.

Madara creates Iso Kyuubi. GG.
 

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Lol, Madara stomps. Mu isn't doing much here, Madara can see him with his Sharingan.
 

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No. The sharingan can't see Muu.

I have convinced pretty much every person that's tried debating this. Even the likes of EjBlack has been convinced, and everybody knows convincing him takes a personal letter from Kishi.
 

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I have convinced pretty much every person that's tried debating this. Even the likes of EjBlack has been convinced, and everybody knows convincing him takes a personal letter from Kishi.

Um you convince me with Byakugan, which has far better insight then Sharingan. I dont remember saying anything about being convince with Sharingan
 

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Um you convince me with Byakugan, which has far better insight then Sharingan. I dont remember saying anything about being convince with Sharingan

We were arguing about the Sharingan and the Byakugan, not only the Byakugan. The method applies to both eyes, and I used the Sharingan for 90% of my argument anyways.
 

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We were arguing about the Sharingan and the Byakugan, not only the Byakugan. The method applies to both eyes, and I used the Sharingan for 90% of my argument anyways.

I know we were arguing both, but what convince me was Byakugan insight and the topic was Hiashi match up.
Sharingan gains x ray vision only when chakra signature is exposed. I can't see how the Sharingan will be able to x ray vision when Muu chakra isnt.
 

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I know we were arguing both, but what convince me was Byakugan insight and the topic was Hiashi match up.
Sharingan gains x ray vision only when chakra signature is exposed. I can't see how the Sharingan will be able to x ray vision when Muu chakra isnt.

I'd like proof of this claim. What was the tread again?
 

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I'd like proof of this claim. What was the tread again?

It was never said word for word as my claim but we know Sharingan can only see chakra flow. So as long as chakra exist they can see it

It was Hiashi vs Muu thread
 

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It was never said word for word as my claim but we know Sharingan can only see chakra flow. So as long as chakra exist they can see it

Again, baseless claims are baseless. There's no reason for the Sharingan to only be capable of using its light-ignoring vision when looking at chakra.

It was Hiashi vs Muu thread

Alright thanks
 

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I have convinced pretty much every person that's tried debating this. Even the likes of EjBlack has been convinced, and everybody knows convincing him takes a personal letter from Kishi.

And I'm telling you the Sharingan can't see Mu. He doesn't have a physical form to look at let alone a chakra signature. How can one be called the Invisible Man and The Man with no Presence if the Sharingan and or the Byakygan could see him? Makes no sense butbIm not about to debate this since we both already agreed Madara wins.
 

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Again, baseless claims are baseless. There's no reason for the Sharingan to only be capable of using its light-ignoring vision when looking at chakra.

How is it baseless? Its baseless if you claim Sharingan can see more then identifying chakra.
 

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How is it baseless? Its baseless if you claim Sharingan can see more then identifying chakra.

Not at all, because it ignores light when the Sharingan is activated, regardless of chakra presence.
 

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Show me and I concede

Contrary to popular belief, the Sharingan must be activated further to see chakra. If that wasn't the case it'd never see a physical body and it'd always see chakra, which isn't the case. When the Sharingan is activated the reflection of light becomes practically irrelevant to an extent. When Sasuke activated his Sharingan further , all the things within the cave could be seen through by Sasuke, even if there was no chakra behind them. After Sasuke had already noticed that the nano bombs were chakra he used his Sharingan to zoom in on his body via X-Ray vision instead of chakra vision, so that he knows what's going on . Hence Mu would be vulnerable to the Sharingan's ability to ignore light since his body's only invisible due to the fact that it bends light around it. With light's irrelevance it means Sasuke sees Mu just fine.
 

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Contrary to popular belief, the Sharingan must be activated further to see chakra. If that wasn't the case it'd never see a physical body and it'd always see chakra, which isn't the case. When the Sharingan is activated the reflection of light becomes practically irrelevant to an extent.

I have no idea what @Bold means.

When Sasuke activated his Sharingan further , all the things within the cave could be seen through by Sasuke, even if there was no chakra behind them.

Then why post a scan of chakra exposed behind them to support your point?

After Sasuke had already noticed that the nano bombs were chakra he used his Sharingan to zoom in on his body via X-Ray vision instead of chakra vision,

Xray = Chakra vision. It's the same-thing as how Sharingan gives off chakra flow. If it doesnt give off chakra flow then they can't have xray priorities.

so that he knows what's going on . Hence Mu would be vulnerable to the Sharingan's ability to ignore light since his body's only invisible due to the fact that it bends light around it. With light's irrelevance it means Sasuke sees Mu just fine.

The scans you showed me so far because chakra was exposed. If it has any better insight of x ray then Kakashi should of seen Zabuza through his Mist[ ]
 
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