[VS] Danzo vs Kakashi

[ARGUS]

Danzo wins this high diff

 

[Apêx1]

Here's a VIZ of Kakashi doing exactly what I am suggesting;

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Gains intel on Danzo's seal and then can fight from a range for the rest of the fight without much trouble, given the amount of jutsu he has access to due to his Sharingan.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Danzo wins this, and being able to copy Kakashi's element move sets (bar Raiton) makes things worst.

Baku gets protected by any element interference, other then that Kakashi gets dragged and eaten or reverse summoned out.

 

[Apêx1]

Danzo wins this, and being able to copy Kakashi's element move sets (bar Raiton) makes things worst.

Baku gets protected by any element interference, other then that Kakashi gets dragged and eaten or reverse summoned out.

Uh no, Kakashi is confirmed to have chakra control and Sharingan proficiency to the point where he can copy any A rank jutsu and under. Danzo doesn't have the Sharingan proficiency nor the chakra control capacity to do so.

Any Katon shits all over it just like when Sasuke shat on it with Katon.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Uh no, Kakashi is confirmed to have chakra control and Sharingan proficiency to the point where he can copy any A rank jutsu and under. Danzo doesn't have the Sharingan proficiency nor the chakra control capacity to do so.

Any Katon shits all over it just like when Sasuke shat on it with Katon.

So does that mean only Kakashi can do it, and no other Sharingan users can?

 

[Apêx1]

So does that mean only Kakashi can do it, and no other Sharingan users can?

No, it means Danzo has no proven proficiency with the Sharingan for you to make such a claim. And his chakra control feats are almost non-existent, the only thing he was supposed to control was Hashirama's cells and he ended up with one less limb because of that shortcoming. Please give me a scan of his best chakra control feat.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

No, it means Danzo has no proven proficiency with the Sharingan for you to make such a claim. And his chakra control feats are almost non-existent, the only thing he was supposed to control was Hashirama's cells and he ended up with one less limb because of that shortcoming. Please give me a scan of his best chakra control feat.

What's the requirement that determines that he has the chakra control?

 

[Apêx1]

What's the requirement that determines that he has the chakra control?

Kakash stated he can copy anything that's A rank or under. For Danzo? Don't know, I don't believe he has any impressive chakra control feats like handling large amounts of chakra or doing intricate chakra employment.

 

[Mellow]

Kamui , and an elemental advantage . kakashi takes this

 

[EZQ]

Kakashi doesn't have katon release @apex. Anyways he gets rid of Baku via kamui decapitation.

Änd to the guy above me, he doesn't have elemental advantage, its the opposite, since wind>lightining

 

[eagle8]

War arc
3T kakashi wins
1MS kakashi wins
DMS kakashi wins

i can explain why if you want !

 

[Apêx1]

Kakashi doesn't have katon release @apex. Anyways he gets rid of Baku via kamui decapitation.

Änd to the guy above me, he doesn't have elemental advantage, its the opposite, since wind>lightining

DBIV suggests he has Katon, his Sharingan being able to copy any A rank technique and under means he can use the ones he's seen.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kakashi doesn't have katon release @apex. Anyways he gets rid of Baku via kamui decapitation.

Änd to the guy above me, he doesn't have elemental advantage, its the opposite, since wind>lightining

kakashi has all 5 elements(db) and can copy any techs seen that's below A rank, his own admission.

 

[super yang]

Danzo wins all scenarios.

danzos ninjutsu onslaught will go unchallenged by kakashis arsenal, leaving little opportunity to set up kamui.
kakashi can't counter baku safely, as danzo can retaliate & set up the trap from a free position whenever kakashi retreats underground. and sharingan can read his clone feints(intent, spawn & see chakra underground) w/ plot shenanigans turned off.

danzo rules the cqc battle w/ his curse seal

.........
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[Brother Numpsay]

Kakash stated he can copy anything that's A rank or under. For Danzo? Don't know, I don't believe he has any impressive chakra control feats like handling large amounts of chakra or doing intricate chakra employment.

You dont got the answers basically and appealing to ignorance. And saying Danzo can't do it isn't base on a fact but an opinion. Kakashi didnt state he coped Rasengan =/= w/ Sharingan. He had it for training Chidori, which is before gaining Sharingan. So the ranking is taken out of context as it wasn't relevant to the Sharingan.

I dont know how you say he can't handle large amounts of chakra when Hashirama's cells alone refutes this, as its not easy to control his cells. A single of use of Sharingan eyes takes a toll of Kakashi and Danzo can hold 11. Each Izanagi eye that finishes takes a huge dump on Danzo's reserves, according to Karin[

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Danzo one ups background info of the Sharingan and usage then Kakashi. Can MS no diff, can manipulate Earth and Water style with ease[

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Can manipulate B rank jutsus.

I have no idea why your putting Kakashi in this pedestal like is the only Sharingan user that can do this.

 

[Apêx1]

You dont got the answers basically and appealing to ignorance. And saying Danzo can't do it isn't base on a fact but an opinion. Kakashi didnt state he coped Rasengan =/= w/ Sharingan. He had it for training Chidori, which is before gaining Sharingan. So the ranking is taken out of context as it wasn't relevant to the Sharingan.

I obviously don't have the answer, but neither do you. I asked you several times to bring me his chakra control feats because we both know his Sharingan's feats are inexistent. He didn't state he copied rasengan there, he stated he can copy jutsu at 'that level' of difficulty. Learn to read before you try to twist the context of a clear statement.

I dont know how you say he can't handle large amounts of chakra when Hashirama's cells alone refutes this, as its not easy to control his cells. A single of use of Sharingan eyes takes a toll of Kakashi and Danzo can hold 11. Each Izanagi eye that finishes takes a huge dump on Danzo's reserves, according to Karin[

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It used to take a troll on him, at the end of the war arc he was spamming his MS. This is War Arc Kakashi. Danzo can only handle those Sharingan's due to Hashirama's DNA strengthening his life force, chakra control is completely irrelevant to this. Handling Hashirama's DNA is no large feat, kid Obito was doing it just fine and didn't even seem to show that it had any affect on him (didn't need to maintain control). Only Danzo has shown trouble handling it.

Danzo one ups background info of the Sharingan and usage then Kakashi. Can MS no diff, can manipulate Earth and Water style with ease[

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Kakashi>>>>>Danzo in terms of Sharingan, this is non-debatable.
And now you'll need to bring me proof of the techniques he's seen to copy them. As far as I am concerned there is no jutsu that he's seen in those respective elements.

Can manipulate B rank jutsus.

I have no idea why your putting Kakashi in this pedestal like is the only Sharingan user that can do this.

Baseless claim.

Wrong, I am saying Danzo is the only Sharingan user who cannot.
>No Sharingan feats
>No decent chakra control feats
Yea, he's not getting Kakashi's feats when Kakashi has demonstrated amazing chakra control and has also had his eyes praised by every Sharingan user he's fought against.

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't even think chakra control has anything to do with controlling Hashirama's genetic material tbh.

 

[Apêx1]

I don't even think chakra control has anything to do with controlling Hashirama's genetic material tbh.

It takes a small amount of chakra control [

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[KCN]

Hardly. All Hashirama's DNA does is increase reserves, vitality/life force and gives you Mokuton to an extent. Nothing to do with chakra control at all. Even if it were to do with chakra control, the one time he even tried using Mokuton it spiralled out of control and he lost a limb.

I think Kakashi can take it actually.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

I obviously don't have the answer, but neither do you. I asked you several times to bring me his chakra control feats because we both know his Sharingan's feats are inexistent. He didn't state he copied rasengan there, he stated he can copy jutsu at 'that level' of difficulty. Learn to read before you try to twist the context of a clear statement.

You asked me and I provided them. Your just putting chakra control feats on make believe standards to determine Kakashi has the chakra control that Danzo doesnt have.

Whos twisting what? The scan you used: "spatial recomposition" = Rasengan. That itself is A rank. The problem was adding Raiton to it for Kakashi. Thats the context.

It used to take a troll on him, at the end of the war arc he was spamming his MS. This is War Arc Kakashi. Danzo can only handle those Sharingan's due to Hashirama's DNA strengthening his life force, chakra control is completely irrelevant to this. Handling Hashirama's DNA is no large feat, kid Obito was doing it just fine and didn't even seem to show that it had any affect on him (didn't need to maintain control). Only Danzo has shown trouble handling it.

Being able to spam now doesnt change the fact that it still takes a toll on him even War arc he needed to recover and had Kurama support. Hashirama's cells isn't completely irrelevant since manga disagrees[

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Kakashi>>>>>Danzo in terms of Sharingan, this is non-debatable.
And now you'll need to bring me proof of the techniques he's seen to copy them. As far as I am concerned there is no jutsu that he's seen in those respective elements.

Baseless:

Hasnt shown superior in Genjutsu
Hasnt shown precog being no different
Hasnt shown MS usege being superior

I didnt say he copied anything. I mention that to be able to use Mokuton, one has to be able to manipulate both Earth and Water style, which Danzo did.

Baseless claim.

Wrong, I am saying Danzo is the only Sharingan user who cannot.
>No Sharingan feats
>No decent chakra control feats
Yea, he's not getting Kakashi's feats when Kakashi has demonstrated amazing chakra control and has also had his eyes praised by every Sharingan user he's fought against.

Baseless? Read DB, his Futon are B ranked.

>Base on the reason of not showing copying feats excludes it?
> Lol, shown every feat a Sharingan can do and secret Sharingan ability bar copying somehow = no Sharingan feats
> Base on make believe requirements
> above.

It takes a small amount of chakra control [

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Then this out of context to support your point much? Nothing implied it takes small amount of chakra control. How does not being able to control it with low chakra means a failure in chakra control? Even on his death bed? Danzo still implied under his condition he can still used the Sharingan. Use its precog to read through Chidori strike and was contemplating who to use KA on.