[Discussion] Why are men always expected to make the first move??

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Why we men are always expected to make the first move?Is it about 'gendered scripts' or about fear of rejection or about testing out confidence?
Rather is it wrong for me to expect her to make the first move?:p
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Because that's what a man does. Though ambitious women take that role occasionally but ambitious people in general go after what they want, which is another reason to make the first move. Women have more of a liking to ambitious men than apathetic ones who wait for things to come to them. Not to mention most women love to be chased after. Pursuing means genuine interest in the lady, which is all they really want.
 

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Because double standards, and even if we do make the first move and she rejects, then you're made out to not only look like an utter tool, but as a creeper to boot due to trying.

(Believe me, had some very bad experiences in my life...)
 

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Because that's how it works.
This is what I meant by 'gendered scripts'.
cuz women don't wanna be labeled thots
Because double standards.
Interesting point, but then again if feminists really want equality don't you think that these fellows(feminists ofc) need to change this thinking.
Also, men seem to be comfortable with this.
Match.com polling reports that 91% of men who use the site are comfortable with a woman asking them out.
Where men that's why. Were supposed to be the one in charge. Sometime if a girl really like you she'll make the first move.
This is what I meant by dogmatic thinking. Rejection always hurts and yet girls expect men to make the first move and suffer from the humiliation that you get after rejection. Just like Poetic Justice said, Girls don't wanna be labeled 'thots', then what about men?
I have seen very rare cases of girl making first move, stats alone prove this.
So, in today's century where feminism is the most discussed word on the internet, the 'we are men' argument looks really absurd to me.
Just be happy your not both men.
:lol
 

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It's a thing of Nature the male in most species goes to great leangths to win over the female. No social thing can change such behaviour it's something like natural selection at work where the strongest wins the weakest loses. Or in biological standards the male with the best qualities in both genes and personality + good healthy look has the right to mate. But dont think that females arent subjected to this rule. Their rule is to be attractive to a male, looking good, have good "giving birth specifications" and be healthy and plus have a good personality.

Or to put it bluntly very preety woman get's hook'd with a very preety male.

Ugly woman get's hook'd with a ugly male this is the standard which isnt always true of course.

Want to change that? Sure you can do it on a social level it might take some time but it could get acceptable like Gay couples/Marriages but it will be twisted and confusing for relationships i belive.
Other way is genetic manipulation which drive us Humans but that is still Science Fiction.
 

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Well last summer I was all about chicks, cold approached randoms and got rejected 10 times, it built more confidence. However, I'm still scared to approach 9's and 10's, the hotter the girl is the more nervous I get.
 

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Well last summer I was all about chicks, cold approached randoms and got rejected 10 times, it built more confidence. However, I'm still scared to approach 9's and 10's, the hotter the girl is the more nervous I get.
9s and 10s ain't shit, behind those looks are some of the most insecure females in the world.
Just have the mentality that you are what they want and don't give out too much attention and don't be too nice (beware the friendzone)
 
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