[VS] Whitebeard vs Garp (Prime)

[Punk Hazard]

K ignore everything that happened before the one shot. What diff is it now?

That's a very stupid thing to do, so why would I do it? If you gotta fictionalize what happened by changing the fight, then your point and result is also fictional.

 

[A v i]

A one shot isn't always equivalent to low dif.

 

[Punk Hazard]

A one shot isn't always equivalent to low dif.

Depends on how you define one-shot. If a one-shot is a fight that consists of one blow delivered and someone else receives it and is defeated, then it is.

 

[Bogard]

Depends on how you define one-shot. If a one-shot is a fight that consists of one blow delivered and someone else receives it and is defeated, then it is.

Do you read yuyu hakusho?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Do you read yuyu hakusho?

I don't give a **** about it, this is the One Piece section

 

[Bogard]

I don't give a **** about it, this is the One Piece section

I know it is, but it's important to show you how one shot =/= low diff with a manga example since it seems so hard for you to grasp such a simple thing

 

[ToshiZO]

That's a very stupid thing to do, so why would I do it? If you gotta fictionalize what happened by changing the fight, then your point and result is also fictional.

wth are you talking about? This is to see how your logic holds....

but clearly it doesn't cause you don't want to answer that question.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I know it is, but it's important to show you how one shot =/= low diff with a manga example since it seems so hard for you to grasp such a simple thing

Then, by all means, explain

 

[Punk Hazard]

wth are you talking about? This is to see how your logic holds....

but clearly it doesn't cause you don't want to answer that question.

What you're asking makes no sense.

A fight that consists entirely of one blow being delivered and the person who receives it is defeated as a result is low diff. This doesn't apply to Machvise vs the giant because it consisted of more than just one blow that defeats the enemy

 

[Bogard]

Then, by all means, explain

Hiei vs Zero - What difficulty was the fight?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Hiei vs Zero - What difficulty was the fight?

I don't know? I don't watch that series. I said explain.

 

[ToshiZO]

What you're asking makes no sense.

A fight that consists entirely of one blow being delivered and the person who receives it is defeated as a result is low diff. This doesn't apply to Machvise vs the giant because it consisted of more than just one blow that defeats the enemy

Wait I thought Machvise only recieved one blow? IIRC wasn't it Hajrudin who was damaged prior to it? If that's the case ignore the injuries to Hajrudin and tell me what difficulty the fight was during the actual one shot itself. Don't know whats so hard to understand about this.

 

[Bogard]

I don't know? I don't watch that series. I said explain.

Hiei had an ultimate attack but he couldn't control it at the time and using it meant sacrificing his arm for a considerable amount of time. He was facing someone(Zero) he knew would kill him if they fought, and decided to use his ultimate attack right from the start that one shotted that guy and thus won the fight but at the cost of his arm. What difficulty was that?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Wait I thought Machvise only recieved one blow? IIRC wasn't it Hajrudin who was damaged prior to it? If that's the case ignore the injuries to Hajrudin and tell me what difficulty the fight was during the actual one shot itself. Don't know whats so hard to understand about this.

??? Why would I ignore the damage delivered to the giant when that's a major factor? Why is hard to understand that because Hadjurin sustained severe damage, it's not low diff, and it's not a one-shot fight because more than one blows were landed during the fight.

Hiei had an ultimate attack but he couldn't control it at the time and using it meant sacrificing his arm for a considerable amount of time. He was facing someone(Zero) he knew would kill him if they fought, and decided to use his ultimate attack right from the start that one shotted that guy and thus won the fight but at the cost of his arm. What difficulty was that?

Thats a good point. Were any other attacks made during this fight?

Edit: Wait, you already answered that. Low diff. It cost him his arm, but it wasn't severe damage inflicted upon him by an opponent.

 

[ToshiZO]

??? Why would I ignore the damage delivered to the giant when that's a major factor? Why is hard to understand that because Hadjurin sustained severe damage, it's not low diff, and it's not a one-shot fight because more than one blows were landed during the fight.

You're making no sense. I said just pretend that Hajrudin was not injured he would still break his bones upon one shotting Machvise.....so what difficulty is it?

Edit: Wait, you already answered that. Low diff. It cost him his arm, but it wasn't severe damage inflicted upon him by an opponent.

Also I guess Luffy beat Doflamingo mid difficulty since most of the damage Luffy did was to himself....crap logic and you know it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

You're making no sense. I said just pretend that Hajrudin was not injured he would still break his bones upon one shotting Machvise.....so what difficulty is it?

Also I guess Luffy beat Doflamingo mid difficulty since most of the damage Luffy did was to himself....crap logic and you know it.

Why are you so incapable of grasping that ignoring the hits and damage before make no sense? You don't know that his bones would still break if he was at full strength.

Not being able to use one arm is hardly comparable to being completely exhausted and immobile.

 

[sage1999]

considering tht garp was the marine equivalent of roger and tht in his time roger/garp was the strongest then WB and possibly Shiki/Sengoku. Ill give this to Garp but extreme high diff, like higher diff thn Akainu vs Aokiji. Garp would literally be a puch away from death type of difficulty

 

[ToshiZO]

Why are you so incapable of grasping that ignoring the hits and damage before make no sense? You don't know that his bones would still break if he was at full strength.

Not being able to use one arm is hardly comparable to being completely exhausted and immobile.

Now you're just picking and choosing.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

If they stopped fighting day 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 this fight would have been a tie....and you're comparing this to Luffy and Lucci? Even if you are equals someone is bound to lose if you fight forever, based on any little factor that can tip the favour for one over the other.

You are assuming these they fight was equal. They fought that long because of their PL level. From what we know, Akainu could have upper hand whole time, and the fight lasted long only because of their high stamina.

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

You are assuming these they fight was equal. They fought that long because of their PL level. From what we know, Akainu could have upper hand whole time, and the fight lasted long only because of their high stamina.

If that what happened Akainu wont have permanent scar after that fight.

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