If you really think about it, the Uchiha were tiers above any other clan.

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So let's look at how many clans live in Konoha.

1. Hyuga
2. Akamichi
3. Yamanaka
4. Nara
5. Sarutobi
6. Inuzuka
7. Aburame

Plus any other no name clans like Namikaze and Haruno.

That's at least 9 clans that live and fight for Konoha. 9 clans that were going to fight the Uchiha in the rebellion, and yet, the elders were still afraid of the damage that would be caused.

Think about that.

And people think the Hyuga come close to the Uchiha. Please.
 

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Senju and Uchiha were taught the teachings of the Sage. Is it really surprising.
The Hyugga are strong too.

YOu see what happened when a Namikage learned the ways of the Uzumaki. He became powerful
And when a Haruno learn the ways of a Uzumaki & Senju
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">Manga disagrees.<br /> <br /> Senju &gt; Uchiha<br /> <br /> *insert scan about defectors*<br /> <br /> Uchiha rarely had MS. That was the danger with them in the rebellion. Plus the civil war would be IN the village, leading to innocents being killed and property damage.<br /> <br /> Fugaku: We have a clan!<br /> Hiruzen: We have a solo God.</div>
 

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Manga disagrees.

Senju > Uchiha

*insert scan about defectors*

Uchiha rarely had MS. That was the danger with them in the rebellion. Plus the civil war would be IN the village, leading to innocents being killed and property damage.

Fugaku: We have a clan!
Hiruzen: We have a solo God.
*When Hashirama was alive.

If the Senju were always superior then the Uchiha wouldn't have even been a thing given that they were fighting since Indra and Ashura. Anyway, given the post it should be clear that the Senju weren't included.

Yes they didn't all have MS, it was rare for them to even awaken the Sharingan, an yet they were still feared.
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=19530363" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-19530363">LeSauce said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> *When Hashirama was alive.<br /> <br /> If the Senju were always superior then the Uchiha wouldn't have even been a thing given that they were fighting since Indra and Ashura. Anyway, given the post it should be clear that the Senju weren't included.<br /> <br /> Yes they didn't all have MS, it was rare for them to even awaken the Sharingan, an yet they were still feared. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I don't think that's true actually. There's a scan of BZ saying it took him a few attempts at influencing transmigrants before they gave into hatred. That person was Madara. Hashi negs the Uchiha &amp; Madz high diff anyway.<br /> <br /> Each part of my post reffered to different times. You'd fear any conspiracy plotting clan leaving right beside you. Any unecessary damage and deaths are bad.</div>
 

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The Uchiha also had greater numbers compared to the other clans.
And we know that how?
I don't think that's true actually. There's a scan of BZ saying it took him a few attempts at influencing transmigrants before they gave into hatred. That person was Madara. Hashi negs the Uchiha & Madz high diff anyway.

Each part of my post reffered to different times. You'd fear any conspiracy plotting clan leaving right beside you. Any unecessary damage and deaths are bad.
BZ tempted Indra after Hagoromo named Ashura the leader of Ninshuu and from then on it was Uchiha vs Senju.

BZ only tried to awaken the Rinnegan in transmigrants after that.
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They weren't just feared because of the deaths, but because they wpuld cause enough damage to leave the village vulnerable and for the taking. No other clan wpuld have the power to even come close to doing that.
 

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All Senju shit on all Uchiha though.

Hashirama > Madara
Tobirama > Izuna
Naruto > Sasuke


For Fun:
Tsunade > Mikoto
Kushina > Mikoto
Sasuke=Naruto
Indra=Ashura.

Hashirama and Madara were the only ones to ever be different as Hashirama was superior since the beginning.
 

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Sasuke=Naruto
Indra=Ashura.

Hashirama and Madara were the only ones to ever be different as Hashirama was superior since the beginning.
I dunno.

I'm pretty sure Naruto beats Sasuke with Asura Avatar, though it's not worth a long ass debate over "my fav > your fav", if you don't believe that, than it's cool.

We never really saw what happened to Indra vs Asura either.
 

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I dunno.

I'm pretty sure Naruto beats Sasuke with Asura Avatar, though it's not worth a long ass debate over "my fav > your fav", if you don't believe that, than it's cool.

We never really saw what happened to Indra vs Asura either.
You're wrong, just like Naruto defenders were wrong about how having full Kurama would make him twice as strong. According to the people who still think Naruto>Sasuke Naruto should have been able to solo everyone and Sasuke wouldn't even compare.

They killed each other, they told us that.
 

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You're wrong, just like Naruto defenders were wrong about how having full Kurama would make him twice as strong. According to the people who still think Naruto>Sasuke Naruto should have been able to solo everyone and Sasuke wouldn't even compare.

They killed each other, they told us that.
It's funny because both those statements are true, Naruto is stronger with Full Kurama, hell the Last proved that as well.

Where exactly did it say that again? I probably missed it somewhere.
 

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It's funny because both those statements are true, Naruto is stronger with Full Kurama, hell the Last proved that as well.

Where exactly did it say that again? I probably missed it somewhere.
Really? So Naruto can solo Sasuke with just his Kurama mode? Because that's what should happen according to you. I wonder why Kishimoto would say they were on par when he using it then. I guess he just doesn't know his characters.

The Last? How did that prove anything? 697 Naruto could recreate those feats. The only thing new was his Chakra control. If anything the Last Naruto got weaker.
 
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