Gold And Silver Bros Are Stronger Than Tobirama

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What people fail to realize is that he wasn't simply fighting 20 ninja. He was also saving his team mates. He was able to prevent 20 elite ninja from attacking his comrades which is turn is probably how he died. In the old days it was always a perfect strategy to go after something else which would leave your real target open. It would have been easy for 5 ninja to chase the others while the other 15 attacked him from behind. That is a very tough situation to be in.
 

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This belongs to fanfiction section, unless you have manga to prove what you're saying above...oh wait you don't have proof. Quit telling your own version of manga.

sigh and here I thought you weren't going to start trolling.

proof of gold and silver brothers beating tobirama is in op.

Proof of tobirama getting killed by 20+ jounin has been posted

proof of g&s brothers getting beating by dauri + other jounin is in manga

nothing fan fic about manga
 

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sigh and here I thought you weren't going to start trolling.

proof of gold and silver brothers beating tobirama is in op.

Proof of tobirama getting killed by 20+ jounin has been posted

proof of g&s brothers getting beating by dauri + other jounin is in manga

nothing fan fic about manga

In the OP it says Tobirama was ambushed. He was killed by 20+ jonin, not by two brothers. So how come they are stronger than Tobirama?

I'm not the one trolling here.
 

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Damn, I didn't know Kinka and Ginka attacked the 2nd Raikage too.

No chill. Badass.

Guess that makes War Arc Darui > 2nd Raikage, since he soled but Kinka and Ginka.
 

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Tobirama is a true fodder.

If a old hiruzen could beat oro + not stabilized edo version of tobirama and hashirama.

Why couldn't The great 2bd HOKAGE beat 20+ supposed jonin's" and gold and silver brothers :lmao:

Got rekt by a couple of fodders even 16 year opd handled
 

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Tobirama is a true fodder.

If a old hiruzen could beat oro + not stabilized edo version of tobirama and hashirama.

Why couldn't The great 2bd HOKAGE beat 20+ supposed jonin's" and gold and silver brothers :lmao:

Got rekt by a couple of fodders even 16 year opd handled

To be fair, the Kumo and Iwa villages are the most militant. Just compare the Jonins from the Leaf, with the Jonins from those villages.
 

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What people fail to realize is that he wasn't simply fighting 20 ninja. He was also saving his team mates. He was able to prevent 20 elite ninja from attacking his comrades which is turn is probably how he died. In the old days it was always a perfect strategy to go after something else which would leave your real target open. It would have been easy for 5 ninja to chase the others while the other 15 attacked him from behind. That is a very tough situation to be in.
The man forgot he had FTG to save his and his subordinates asses by teleporting them home. Its understandable why people are calling him fodder.
 

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The man forgot he had FTG to save his and his subordinates asses by teleporting them home. Its understandable why people are calling him fodder.

Tobirama's FTG was a lot simpler than Minato's back then, he was mainly just shown teleporting himself, not parties, If he could, let's say If he even had the chakra to do so. Plus, he was in the era of "Shinobi who abandon their mission are scum", before the whole White Fang movement that changed all of that. There was a mission to be completed, it wasn't a stroll through war and get out of dodge. The mission needed to be done and someone had to sacrifice himself to do it.
 

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Hiruzen could've taken them out.
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This is quite obvious. I mean ambush or not he had a Raikage beside him and they still were left near death. If he was alone I might have gave him the pass but not with another Kage right beside him.
 

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Lord tobirama was killed by the gold and silver brothers PLUS 19 S RANK SHINOBI.............HE IS POWERFUL.......BUT THATS A HUGE CHALLENGE FOR ANYONE............


HE IS STILL TOP 4 strongest within all 8 hokage.........RESPECT THE MAN
 

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Funny thing is he could have survived all he had to do was edo tensei Harashima
 

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Tobirama's FTG was a lot simpler than Minato's back then, he was mainly just shown teleporting himself, not parties, If he could, let's say If he even had the chakra to do so. Plus, he was in the era of "Shinobi who abandon their mission are scum", before the whole White Fang movement that changed all of that. There was a mission to be completed, it wasn't a stroll through war and get out of dodge. The mission needed to be done and someone had to sacrifice himself to do it.
Just because its simpler doesnt change the fact that he has a marking on his stone face to teleport to. He looked fine, he has the chakra. This is the same guy who teleported 2 Bijuu at once.

Their mission was over as far as i cant tell. Their aim was only to escape, so i dont think he would have been regarded as scum. All they were trying to do was get back to konoha. So nope, i dont know what mission you are talking about.
 

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Meh. We don't know the level of the 20 shinobi they were fighting. It could be a combination of Kinkaku + Ginkaku + Second Raikage + a young Third Raikage + I don't know... a hired Kakuzu and another 15 Jonin for all we know...
Thing is is that they were probably the best in Kumo and Tobirama went alone against them. We don't k os how the KinGin Bros or the second Raikage died. Maybe they all went down in that fight...
 

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No, they ambushed him meaning he wasn't prepared to fight and got caught off guard. If Tobirama can fight 1v1 against a Mangekyo user as talented as Madara then Gold/Silver Bros aren't as much of a challenge for him.
 

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Meh. We don't know the level of the 20 shinobi they were fighting. It could be a combination of Kinkaku + Ginkaku + Second Raikage + a young Third Raikage + I don't know... a hired Kakuzu and another 15 Jonin for all we know...
Thing is is that they were probably the best in Kumo and Tobirama went alone against them. We don't k os how the KinGin Bros or the second Raikage died. Maybe they all went down in that fight...
we also dont know if kinkaku and ginkaku were even there lol. It was only stated that they were the kinkaku unit of 20 bounty hunters. I dont know why people always try to bring kakuzu into this, he wasnt there :|. I personally dont believe those 20 ninja were more skilled than the dozens of anbu a 13 yr old obito killed.

Hiruzen seemed to think he could take them as well lol
 

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The man forgot he had FTG to save his and his subordinates asses by teleporting them home. Its understandable why people are calling him fodder.

I don't think it is fair to criticize him when circumstances were not explained.

Maybe, for some reason, Hiraishin was not an option. Maybe he had his abilities sealed away. They were returning from a mission. Maybe he had no more Chakra left than an ordinary civilian.

Maybe Kinkaku team had to be dealt with. Maybe Kakuzu was there, since Kakuzu himself said it has been a lost time since he lost more than two or three hearts, which happened after fighting Hashirama. Also, he seemed very familiar with Kinkaku and Ginkaku.

We don't know how strong other Shinobi were. And we don't know what Tobirama manged to achieve in that fight.

It is easy to say what would be the best way or that Tobirama didn't do well. But we don't know exactly what the situation was.

Imagine we did not learn almost anything about Minato. Let say we just knew he was a Hokage who sacrificed himself the night when some Shinobi attacked the village. If we did not know what happened that night, it would still not do Minato justice to treat it like that.

Of course, the situation seemed fairly simple but that does not mean it was.

And Tobirama is important character but obviously it was not enough to have author reveal exactly how he died. I wish it was. But it does not do justice to assume Tobirama did not take best actions available to him.
 
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