[Discussion] Marineford power levels

[ultraChalk]

Lol sorry too much to correct man, i'll state a few

Dying really weak WB beat a healthy Akainu low-mid diff and yes he was beaten he couldn't get up needed time to recover if WB wanted to kill him he could of. Yet you put him and all the admirals above WB.

Garp, WB, roger said to be equals.

You put Doffy at 68, but Jozu at 95 even thou Doffy was toying with him.

BB at 96 when 5% WB beat his ass.

Jinbe 58? When him and Ace were considered equals

WB did not beat Akainu. Akainu was never 'down' for that fight. He was recovering from the pit WB made beneath his feet.

And people still always say Roger could beat him.

You have a point.

Getting in one good hit against somebody doesn't constitute as beating his ass. Especially when they're still able to get up and go.

They were considered equal 2 or 3 years prior to Marineford. Ace got stronger.

You put Croc above Jinbe. I want an actual reason why so many people are above WB, not the bs reason you gave.

"I don't like the reason you gave so it's not a reason." That's how you sound.

Once again, no shit posting please. You want a reason I gave you one. If you don't like it, dissect why you don't like it.

 

[ultraChalk]

Well Moriah didn't only fight Luffy, he fought the entire crew so I am not yet sure if Luffy was really stronger than Moriah by himself. Though I might change the difference of power level since I am kinda irresolute lol

That's understandable

 

[Ridoku X]

Crocodile above Kuma and Ivankov? Wtf?

Kuma was a mindless robot with destructive powers and nothing else. Even Ivankov handled him pretty well. Now about Crocodile, I am with the belief that he was introduced way too early and that he's actually pretty strong so I am going to be absolute about this v_v

Even Doflamingo wanted him in his crew and Doffy isn't known for recruiting weaklings. Also, in the war his feats were pretty amazing for someone as weak as some people portray him to be, so I am gonna stick with my opinion for this one.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Kuma was a mindless robot with destructive powers and nothing else. Even Ivankov handled him pretty well. Now about Crocodile, I am with the belief that he was introduced way too early and that he's actually pretty strong so I am going to be absolute about this v_v

Even Doflamingo wanted him in his crew and Doffy isn't known for recruiting weaklings. Also, in the war his feats were pretty amazing for someone as weak as some people portray him to be, so I am gonna stick with my opinion for this one.

What was so amazing about Crocodile during the war? He survived one hit from Jozu, but Pre-TS Luffy was able to survive a hit from Sengoku, who is stronger than Jozu. He blocked Mihawk, so could Daz Bones. He landed a surprise hit on Akainu, and some fodder at Sabaody was able to shoot Kizaru. Doflamingo recruited Baby 5, Buffalo, and Dellinger when they were little kids/infants, so saying that Doflamingo asking Croc to join means that Croc is strong isn't true.

 

[Stark]

Great thread, something different.

Whitebeard=100
Shanks= 99
Benn Bekcman= 92
Akainu= 94
Aokiji= 94
Kizaru= 94
Sengoku= 95
Garp= 93
Marco= 92
Jozu= 88
Vista= 88
Mihawk= 92
Doflamingo= 90
Jinbe= 75
Kuma= 80
Ivankov= 82
Boa Hancock= 80
Moriah= 55
Crocodile= 75
Blackbeard= 85
Luffy= 60
Smoker= 65
Ace= 75

 

[-Akuma-]

Whitebeard=100
Shanks= 98
Benn Bekcman= ?
Akainu= 95
Aokiji= 95
Kizaru= 93
Sengoku= 92
Garp= 96
Marco= ?88
Jozu= 85
Vista= 83
Mihawk= 95
Doflamingo= 83
Jinbe= 75
Kuma= 80
Ivankov= 73
Boa Hancock= 78
Moriah= 65
Crocodile= ?? I don't know about this ni**a
Blackbeard= 89(Gura)
Luffy= 50
Smoker= 55
Ace= 82

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Whitebeard=100
Shanks= 98
Benn Bekcman= ?
Akainu= 95
Aokiji= 95
Kizaru= 93
Sengoku= 92
Garp= 96
Marco= ?88
Jozu= 95
Vista= 83
Mihawk= 95
Doflamingo= 83
Jinbe= 75
Kuma= 80
Ivankov= 73
Boa Hancock= 78
Moriah= 65
Crocodile= ?? I don't know about this ni**a
Blackbeard= 89(Gura)
Luffy= 50
Smoker= 55
Ace= 82

Did you mean to put Jozu at 85?

 

[-Akuma-]

Did you mean to put Jozu at 85?

Yes, my bad.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Did some rethinking.

Whitebeard=100
Shanks= 99
Benn Beckman= 89
Akainu= 97
Aokiji= 96
Kizaru= 96
Sengoku= 96
Garp= 97
Marco= 87
Jozu= 85
Vista= 84
Mihawk= 98
Doflamingo= 83
Jinbe= 75
Kuma= 70
Ivankov= 75
Boa Hancock= 80
Moriah= 60
Crocodile= 70
Blackbeard= 88
Luffy= 60
Smoker= 60
Ace=75

 

[A v i]

Shanks can't possible weaker than MF Whitebeard who could't even dodge/block an attack from someone like Squad. It might be a sneak attack but an attack from Shanks should be much faster as well as stronger than Squard's attack so it doesn't make any difference.


Ace as newbie evenly matched Jimbe. Ace sailed seas at least for an year or two after his battle with Jimbe so he's supposed to get much stronger than Jimbe because his growth rate should be as great as if not batter than Luffy's.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Shanks can't possible weaker than MF Whitebeard who could't even dodge/block an attack from someone like Squad. It might be a sneak attack but an attack from Shanks should be much faster as well as stronger than Squard's attack so it doesn't make any difference.


Ace as newbie evenly matched Jimbe. Ace sailed seas at least for an year or two after his battle with Jimbe so he's supposed to get much stronger than Jimbe because his growth rate should be as great as if not batter than Luffy's.

That's why Ace died to the attack Jinbei lived through.

 

[CrimsonReaper]

Whitebeard=100
Shanks= 113
Benn Bekcman= 100 (my flame shield is ready)
Akainu= 110
Aokiji= 110
Kizaru= 110
Sengoku= 111
Garp= 111
Marco= 94
Jozu= 90
Vista= 90
Mihawk= 113
Doflamingo= 80
Jinbe= 58
Kuma= 83
Ivankov= 72
Boa Hancock= Idk
Moriah= 50
Crocodile= 60
Blackbeard= 93
Luffy= 35
Smoker= 40
Ace= 75

Now I'll explain some of them.
I think Shanks and Mihawk were the strongest ones there. Shanks stopped Akainu when literally nobody else could or would, and he's = to Mihawk.

I put the admirals that much higher, because they had a strong health advantage in health. And since Aokiji and Akainu are practically =, I also credit him with the ability to cover Akainus feats as well. Kizaru wasn't fighting seriously during that war at all. Anyway... Akainu tanked 2(?) of WB's very strongest attacks, directly. And still had it in him to get up and go, knowing he would have had to get through all of his commanders. And not even Vista+Marco could pierce his haki, and they had clear direct shots at him. So yeah, I put them that much higher.

Ben Beckman is questionable but thats just how idk

And me giving a character 50 doesn't necessarily mean they have half his strength so don't fret

agreed!

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

agreed!

That's a joke right?

 

[CrimsonReaper]

That's a joke right?

nah wb was sick he's not at his prime shanks is definitely stronger than him, i only disagree with akainu part.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

That's why Ace died to the attack Jinbei lived through.

I was gonna say that Ace was punched through the abdomen while Jinbe was punched through the chest, but I realized that everything within the magma fist's path should've been destroyed completely like what happened with Ace.....how the hell did Jinbe survive losing a lung?....

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

nah wb was sick he's not at his prime shanks is definitely stronger than him, i only disagree with akainu part.

So the Whitebeard, who was the WSM during MF, is weaker than another man?

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I was gonna say that Ace was punched through the abdomen while Jinbe was punched through the chest, but I realized that everything within the magma fist's path should've been destroyed completely like what happened with Ace.....how the hell did Jinbe survive losing a lung?....

Doesn't Jinbe have gills?

 

[CrimsonReaper]

So the Whitebeard, who was the WSM during MF, is weaker than another man?

who is the "another man" lol??

 

[Punk Hazard]

Doesn't Jinbe have gills?

You need lungs to breathe air.

 

[loj]

Why did half of people put higher numbers for Croco than Luffy?

Luffy would own in...again.