Minato & Itachi VS Rinnengan Obito & Tobirama

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age excuse, its dumb. If you're trained and groomed by madara uchiha and enhanced wit Hashirama cells and possess a deadly Mangekyou, then age doesnt matter. Same way a 16 yr old naruto and sssukes age dont matter when they solo most.
Terrible logic

1. Adult Naruto & Sasuke (Hagoromo chakra) > the younger selfs in every catogory reaction speed power etc.

Same for Obito training with a Madara who could not walk or do anything but talk is not training at all and that still does not mean his reaction would not improve. As if you could max out your potential at 16 to began with post is all types of dumb

OT - Team Tobirama wins like i said
 
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That was a 14 year old obito with one MS, he's facing the leader of Akatsuki with a MS and Rinnegan.. He has mutiple ways to beat Minato now... You can't compare the two..
Since when age is a factor in NV when it comes to determining how strong someone is? Obito was top tier when Minato stomped him.
What does Rinnegan give Obito anyway? He solely relies on Kamui & that is his down fall against Minato.
 
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Minato fans running wild here.

Itachi gets low diffed by Obito or Tobirama. Minato can beat Tobirama high difficulty. add Rinnegan Obito and Minato gets wrecked.
 

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Pay attention to the posts!
I said if Minato take on Tobirama, Obito would beat Itachi & then Minato can't beat both of them so it's best for him to take Obito down fast & then proceed to help Itachi.
 
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Fast?? He can't take obito at all.
So you're gonna give Obito some feats that he doesn't have & couldn't possibly perform considering he couldn't control the Rinnegan really well.
But hey this is your thread! Hypothetical Obito beats Minato but the one who faced Naruto & co gets stomped.
 

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Lmfao, how does Obito beat Minato?

-Can't use the Six Paths like Nagato and Madara can.
-Thus only has Kamui like he did back then.
-He is still slower than Minato.
 

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Lmfao, how does Obito beat Minato?

-Can't use the Six Paths like Nagato and Madara can.
-Thus only has Kamui like he did back then.
-He is still slower than Minato.
How come he can't? Obito mention ripping out souls to get information Yamato, and attempt to rip Naruto soul but he was saved a few time...
Ripping souls is a path jutsu.
 

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What's the point of puting Rinnegan Obito if Gedo Mazo is restricted? Hell, he can't even use izanagi now.

It depends on who takes who. Since you didn't add knowledge, i'd say Obito vs Minato would end the same way it did in the manga.

If the pairings are: Minato vs Obito and Itachi vs Tobirama then team Minato wins. If the pairings are switched, the result is not the same, since Obito would take on Itachi before Minato finishes Tobirama, and then its 2 v 1.
 

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How come he can't? Obito mention ripping out souls to get information Yamato, and attempt to rip Naruto soul but he was saved a few time...
Ripping souls is a path jutsu.
He can't use them properly on the middle of a battle. If he could, he would have, since it woul've been really helpful.
He could perform it on Yamato because he had all the time and focus he needed to do so.

He wasn't trying to get naruto's soul, he was trying to warp him to the other dimension.
 

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How come he can't? Obito mention ripping out souls to get information Yamato, and attempt to rip Naruto soul but he was saved a few time...
Ripping souls is a path jutsu.
That's only one. Says nothing about the rest. Madara only made use of CT for example once he got both eyes. Who knows what Obito can and can't perform?
 

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That's only one. Says nothing about the rest. Madara only made use of CT for example once he got both eyes. Who knows what Obito can and can't perform?
Using one proves he has path abilities on what level is the concern.. Madara brought down meteors from space lol, using CT wouldn't been a problem.
Madara use Limbo with one eye but when he gain both he could use more limbo clones. Implying two Rinnegan gives more power but that doesn't mean you lose jutsu with one.
 

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Using one proves he has path abilities on what level is the concern.. Madara brought down meteors from space lol, using CT wouldn't been a problem.
Madara use Limbo with one eye but when he gain both he could use more limbo clones. Implying two Rinnegan gives more power but that doesn't mean you lose jutsu with one.
Exactly. The level is the concern, thus you can't claim that he can use the rest.

1. Edo Madara brought meteors down. I'm clearly talking about One Eyed JJ Madara.
2. Limbo is irrelevant as it's not in the category of jutsu we are talking about, but if it were, it'd support my point. Rinnegan defaults with 2 eyes, thus 5 Limbo clones. When Madara loses an eye, he loses 4 clones, thus he loses power.
 

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Lmfao, how does Obito beat Minato?

-Can't use the Six Paths like Nagato and Madara can.
-Thus only has Kamui like he did back then.
-He is still slower than Minato.
Obito did not use Juubi size Katon or Mokuton back then nor did he have any giant kunai this fight does not go down the same also Obito can outlast Minato anyways
 

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Exactly. The level is the concern, thus you can't claim that he can use the rest.

1. Edo Madara brought meteors down. I'm clearly talking about One Eyed JJ Madara.
2. Limbo is irrelevant as it's not in the category of jutsu we are talking about, but if it were, it'd support my point. Rinnegan defaults with 2 eyes, thus 5 Limbo clones. When Madara loses an eye, he loses 4 clones, thus he loses power.
Losing power is not the same as losing the jutsu..
 

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Obito did not use Juubi size Katon or Mokuton back then nor did he have any giant kunai this fight does not go down the same also Obito can outlast Minato anyways
How does juubi sized fire techniques or giant kunai or any projectile attack make any sort of difference. Didnt use Mokuton last time because it would have been a non factor. Minato also didnt use clones back then either, this time there's no outside factors saving obito.

Outlasting, lol nice joke.
 

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How does juubi sized fire techniques or giant kunai or any projectile attack make any sort of difference.
Juubi size Katon is the size of the juubi meaning it bypass the AOE of his ftg Giant Kunai flying through the Katon also adds for slicing power meaning Minato gets roasted like then diced that simple nb4 space time barrier moot because the Katon would keep going until Obito stops its also to big for the space time barrier aswell nb4 he warped juubi's tbb not with space time barrier so irrelevant.


Didnt use Mokuton last time because it would have been a non factor. Minato also didnt use clones back then either, this time there's no outside factors saving obito.
Kage bushin does nothing for Minato cannot bypass juubi size katon space time barrier its take a single hit to destroy them (Mokuton spikes) Minato is also not immune to genjutsu nb4 he did not catch him before he could not perform another genjutsu while controlling Kurama

Outlasting, lol nice joke.
Obito has monster reserves while Minato has a little above average he gets outlasted simple.
 

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Lmfao, how does Obito beat Minato?

-Can't use the Six Paths like Nagato and Madara can.
-Thus only has Kamui like he did back then.
-He is still slower than Minato.
He did basically state that he could use human path when he was talking to Kabuto though. Not that it's a big deal, doesn't change much and I only go off of feats and direct statements when it comes to paths. Unless it's RT Madara or Sasuke, then I think they have them.

Main reason I replied to you though, do you think the Rinnegan itself gave Obito a buff? I believe it did based on his statement to Sakura. That incredible chakra it had would have melded with his own, buffing him. He did say it was the reason he was capable of doing many of the things he did throughout the war.
 
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